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[DragonDroppings]

I don't understand, the Dalish want the shemlens to destroy each other. Why try to forge peace?

 

 

[Lulupab]

As far as I know your Keeper has sent you to spy on them or something.

[Mistic]

Check the official web page:

http://www.dragonage...n_US/inquisitor

 

If you select an elven Inquisitor, you get the backstory. The Dalish Inquisitor is sent as a spy to get information about the peace meeting for his or her Keeper. They aren't part of the peace talks.

[Reznore57]

As far as I know your Keeper has sent you to spy on them or something.

 

Yep.It seems the Dalish only want to know what's going on.

[Willowhugger]

I don't understand, the Dalish want the shemlens to destroy each other. Why try to forge peace?

The Mages and Templars destroying each other is a big win for them.

You know, despite having nothing to do with it.

 

So they're hoping the peace-talks fail.

[Xilizhra]

To be awesome, obviously.

 

Also the aforementioned intelligence stuff.

[katerinafm]

It's on the official site.

[Master Warder Z_]

Spying and what have you as others have said.

[Gervaise]

You know it does occur to me that it is a bit odd how the Keeper even knows about the peace conference.    It is not as though our clan is in Ferelden or the Dales and so might have picked up on something through their trading with humans.    We are meant to be in the northern Freemarches and not inclined to have much contact with humans, yet the Keeper is aware enough of events to be able to send you all that way in time for the big event.    

 

Oddly enough Felassan seemed to be aware that something big was brewing too and this was before the melt down at the White Spire (or at least before the characters in Masked Empire should have been aware of it).

 

Methinks that people in contact with the right Fade spirits are getting inside information.    Either that or the Dalish are involved in some way with events and Keeper wanted to check how successful they had been, which would indicate plans being hatched as far back as the last clan gathering.

[riverbanks]

Uhm, the mage/templar conflict holds a pretty big stake for the Dalish - half the reason they're forced to wander and never settle anywhere for too long is because they have mages too. Mages are leaders and loremasters of their clans, but the Order hunts them as common apostates and have destroyed whole clans to get their hands on the Keeper/First before. If there is a war involving a change in status quo for mages, they have a pretty vested interest in knowing what's coming out of it, where these new peace treatises will leave their mages, whether this means they can stop running from the Templars too and just run from angry farmers now. They have every reason to be sending spies to the summit to see what them shems are up to now.

[Willowhugger]

Oddly enough Felassan seemed to be aware that something big was brewing too and this was before the melt down at the White Spire (or at least before the characters in Masked Empire should have been aware of it).

 

Felassan appears to be Dalish but he's not.

 

Spoiler

He's a member of the Venatori serving the Elder One.

[Icy Magebane]

You know it does occur to me that it is a bit odd how the Keeper even knows about the peace conference.    It is not as though our clan is in Ferelden or the Dales and so might have picked up on something through their trading with humans.    We are meant to be in the northern Freemarches and not inclined to have much contact with humans, yet the Keeper is aware enough of events to be able to send you all that way in time for the big event.    

 

Oddly enough Felassan seemed to be aware that something big was brewing too and this was before the melt down at the White Spire (or at least before the characters in Masked Empire should have been aware of it).

 

Methinks that people in contact with the right Fade spirits are getting inside information.    Either that or the Dalish are involved in some way with events and Keeper wanted to check how successful they had been, which would indicate plans being hatched as far back as the last clan gathering.

 

Well, in the description of the Dalish background, it says that the Keeper sends them because of "something" that may have importance to the elves in some unspecified way...  so it's possible that spirits are involved in how the Keeper is aware of this.

[Gervaise]

Do you suppose Briala gave us passage through the eluvian network?    Otherwise I still don't see how the Keeper could have found out in time for you to get there to be involved in events.    It's a long way from northern Freemarches to the Frostback Mountains on foot, or even on halla.

 

In fact do you suppose that Briala might be the source of the information.   She said she would be willing to work with the Dalish if they were willing to work for all elves and the Keeper does say she anticipates events affecting everyone.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Felassan appears to be Dalish but he's not.

 

Spoiler

He's a member of the Venatori serving the Elder One.

 

He's definitely serving the big bad, but I don't see any reason from the book to think he's a Venatori.

[Gervaise]

I think several different factions are working for the big bad directly or indirectly but they just don't know it and think they're working for themselves.    Felassan is connected to some organisation/clan but I doubt it's the Venatori.   More likely the clan that lives up by the big wolf head (followers of Fen'Harel?)

[DragonDroppings]

Felassan appears to be Dalish but he's not.

 

Spoiler

He's a member of the Venatori serving the Elder One.

I don't think it was the elder one he was talking to in the fade.

[OriginOfWaves]

well the mage - templar conflict does affect the Dalish if you think about it. if the mages manage to win their independence and self-governing rights then that means that less hassle for dalish mages too from the templars. however, if the templars manage to force stricter rules and policies then that doesn't bode well for dalish mages too, they'll be hunted even more feverishly.   

[LobselVith8]

Uhm, the mage/templar conflict holds a pretty big stake for the Dalish - half the reason they're forced to wander and never settle anywhere for too long is because they have mages too. Mages are leaders and loremasters of their clans, but the Order hunts them as common apostates and have destroyed whole clans to get their hands on the Keeper/First before. If there is a war involving a change in status quo for mages, they have a pretty vested interest in knowing what's coming out of it, where these new peace treatises will leave their mages, whether this means they can stop running from the Templars too and just run from angry farmers now. They have every reason to be sending spies to the summit to see what them shems are up to now.

 

That's an excellent point. It's unlikely a secret that the Chantry is meeting to try to halt the war between the mages and the templars, and I can see Clan Lavellan having concern over the possible implications this can hold for the Dalish, particularly (as you point out) given the presence of free mages in the clans.

 

The official website has a snippet for the elven protagonist that reads: "Enslaved long ago by humans, most elves still live as second-class citizens within human cities. Elves who reject this life are known as the Dalish: nomadic wanderers who strive to keep the ancient elven religion and traditions alive. You grew up in the wilderness, a member of the Lavellan Dalish clan and apprentice to its leader and guide, the Keeper. The clan wandered the northern Free Marches, and you had little need to interact with humans - until the Keeper sent you to the Chantry's conclave as a spy. What happened there, she said, would impact not only the Dalish but indeed all elves. She could not have known how right she was."

[Mistic]

You know it does occur to me that it is a bit odd how the Keeper even knows about the peace conference.    It is not as though our clan is in Ferelden or the Dales and so might have picked up on something through their trading with humans.    We are meant to be in the northern Freemarches and not inclined to have much contact with humans, yet the Keeper is aware enough of events to be able to send you all that way in time for the big event.    

 

Oddly enough Felassan seemed to be aware that something big was brewing too and this was before the melt down at the White Spire (or at least before the characters in Masked Empire should have been aware of it).

 

Methinks that people in contact with the right Fade spirits are getting inside information.    Either that or the Dalish are involved in some way with events and Keeper wanted to check how successful they had been, which would indicate plans being hatched as far back as the last clan gathering.

 

A theory that I read some time ago in another thread suggested that the Mage-Templar War might have increased the number of mage elves seeking shelter in Dalish clans. It's a known practice, but it's supposed not to happen very often. However, if mage refugees start arriving to the clan in larger numbers and telling tales of a war and hoping that a certain conference may provide a solution, I bet a Keeper will be interested in it.

 

Yeah, not very epic, spiritual or conspirative, but that could be an explanation.

[Master Warder Z_]

A theory that I read some time ago in another thread suggested that the Mage-Templar War might have increased the number of mage elves seeking shelter in Dalish clans. It's a known practice, but it's supposed not to happen very often. However, if mage refugees start arriving to the clan in larger numbers and telling tales of a war and hoping that a certain conference may provide a solution, I bet a Keeper will be interested in it.

 

Yeah, not very epic, spiritual or conspirative, but that could be an explanation.

 

You know that actually seems pretty likely to be an issue the longer the conflict goes on.

 

Which of course brings the threat of a Templar assault against Dalish clans for harboring rebel mages.

[Willowhugger]

You know that actually seems pretty likely to be an issue the longer the conflict goes on.

 

Which of course brings the threat of a Templar assault against Dalish clans for harboring rebel mages.

I'm interested in how the templars will be changing due to the war.

I doubt they remain anything similiar to their "default" state.

Since they're in rebellion, I could see them slaughtering Dalish clans to find apostates instead of just having to interrogate them.

[Gervaise]

Look I get the why she sends you there.    I still question how she knows that it is occurring.    Elf mages from the Circles could have run to the Dalish but how would they know about the peace conference?     Even if you did happen to do a bit of trading with the humans at exactly the right time to learn about it, this isn't the age of 20th century technology.   It takes time for information to travel around the country.   So even if carrier pigeons or sending stones were used to send the information to major centres, it then has to disseminate by word of mouth, messengers, etc.    Finally you have to travel to the venue.    That could take weeks as well.     Now the information would have gone to the people who the Divine wanted to involve first, so they would have set out long before the Dalish spy did and since they were meant to already be based in Orlais (mages at Andoral's Reach, the Knight Commanders at the White Spire) and the Divine would have tried to get them together before they spread elsewhere, they had a shorter distance to travel and likely offered assistance to ensure they got there in timely fashion.    So it seems a little bit unlikely that you would get there until much later.   Unless of course you had access to the eluvians.   Hence my idea about Briala.

[Master Warder Z_]

I'm interested in how the templars will be changing due to the war.

I doubt they remain anything similiar to their "default" state.

Since they're in rebellion, I could see them slaughtering Dalish clans to find apostates instead of just having to interrogate them.

 

I am of the impression they only concerned with the mages that rebelled from the circle, random elf mages hiding in the woods and hills of rural Thedas likely don't interest them anymore then they did before the war.

[The Hierophant]

I don't understand, the Dalish want the shemlens to destroy each other. Why try to forge peace?

Probably getting intel on their enemies, and if possible, sabotage the peace efforts amongst the involved parties.

[AlexiaRevan]

The Dalish may not care for shemlen.....but I think they still care for the world around them . If there is to be a war , they have the right to be concerned . That or the one who sent the dalish spy.......has the gift of a seer .