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To those who tried Demo and happen to have motion sickness


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Amirit

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I am one of those cursed with motion sickness. First Person view is not an option for me in any game, so, many games are simply unavailable (used to it, not going to complain here). However, in some games even Third Person View can give the same result (Skyrim, for example). For Skyrim someone created a special mod that fixes the camera and allow people like me to play (many, many thanks to Plynxs!). But Frostbite is un-moddable and I'd like to know in advance what to expect.

 

So, question to those who tried the game on one of the Convent and happen to have the same problem (there are not so many of us but we do exist): how is the camera?


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AlexiaRevan

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You could look at the demo of gameplay...wouldn't that give you an idea ? 


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Isn't there some type of medicines you could take to prevent you from getting motion sickness?



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My sister has the same problem except she gets migraines, but she hasn't had a problem with any Bioware game. I'm confident DA:I will be no different but I'll definitely be keeping an eye on this thread, just incase.



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Oh good, it's not just me. I get motion sickness while playing Skyrim, too. I have to stop and take breaks. If I don't then I get really sick.

Something I noticed with Dragon Age and Mass Effect is that there are so many cinematic sequences and parts where dialogue is taking place that I don't seem to have any issues. However, with the level of exploration that the devs have been talking about, it's possible that it will be an issue for Inquisition.
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I'm actually concerned about this, too. I get headaches and nausea. I can play Skyrim/FO3/FONV for about an hour at a time, but the AC and SR games are right out for me. BW games have tended to be pretty awesome as far as that goes, but with DAI being in a new engine, I'm afraid that might not be the case anymore.

 

And it's hard, for me at least, to get a sense of whether or not a game will bother me based on watching someone else play it- I get sick sometimes because I can't predict how they're going to move the camera. Firsthand feedback from someone with the same issue would be much more helpful, if only because they're more likely to understand what it is that can trigger these responses and address them.



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You aren't playing in First Person though.

 

(dont know how skyrim gives motion sickness when the view doesnt bob)



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First Person view is not an option for me in any game

Not even when changing the FOV? A narrow field of view is the most common cause of motion sickness from video games. I had it in Half-Life 2 before I increased it, and I had to mod certain games, like Fallout 3, for them to become playable.



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Maria Caliban

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I am one of those cursed with motion sickness. First Person view is not an option for me in any game, so, many games are simply unavailable (used to it, not going to complain here). However, in some games even Third Person View can give the same result (Skyrim, for example). For Skyrim someone created a special mod that can fix the camera and allow people like me to play (many, many thanks to Plynxs!). But Frostbite in un-moddable and I'd like to know in advance.
 
So, question to those who tried the game on on of the Convent and happen to have the same problem (there are not so many of us but we do exist): how is the camera?


You can play in tactical cam, which is pulled back enough to see several companions and enemies at once.

Have you played Dragon Age: Origins or Dragon Age II? It's pretty much the same thing.

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It's the scenery moving past like you're in a tunnel. At least for me. If I stand on a bridge and look straight down at water flowing under, it makes me feel sick, or like I'm suddenly moving. I have to actually grab the railing and hold on because I feel like I've lost my balance.
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I have the same problem, I don't play FPS games because when the camera is moving too fast, I become sick (except deus ex but only because I play stealthily and you can see the character when he is behind a wall) but I never had any problems with dragon age and according the gameplay videos, the camera in DA:I will be identical so I think you'll be ok with it



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Interesting... I always thought motion sickness was caused by motion that is felt but not seen. I didn't know the reverse could also cause sickness in some people.



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Interesting... I always thought motion sickness was caused by motion that is felt but not seen.

Nope. It happens anytime when the real state of things differ from what your brain feels. So one might get sick when eyes believe you're in motion while you're not. It's not that simple. of course, but that's why some people can't play FPV games at all (like OP), some are tolerant enough with FPS, but can't stand something like racing, space- or flight-sims.

 

Configuring FoV can be an option, but that's not something one can casually find in the main menu settings. Camera speed and angles are important too. 



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Not even when changing the FOV? A narrow field of view is the most common cause of motion sickness from video games. I had it in Half-Life 2 before I increased it, and I had to mod certain games, like Fallout 3, for them to become playable.

I don't get motion sickness, but from what I hear, too narrow field of view is the main problem.

From third person games, Skyrim could cause motion sickness, because it not really designed for third person perspective. So could Fallout 3/NV. 

 

I'm pretty confident, that if OP didn't have any problems playing DA2, he should be ok with DA:I - the camera work seems very similar.



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90% of the time motion sickness caused by video games is due to the FOV being wrong.    Hopefully the game has a FOV setting.   In which case, you only have to find the FOV that is appropriate based upon the size of your screen and the distance you are viewing it from.    Larger FOV will be better.    Unfortunately, a lot of games(especially console ports) don't allow you to change the games FOV internally.    There is, this case, still a few things you can do.  

 

Sit back further from your display screen.   This increases the amount of stable space in your field of vision.   It also allows your brain to cope with the narrow FOV that is locked into most console games display range. 

 

The nausea is caused by your brain experiencing a FOV that doesn't make any sense to it.   If you are sitting 4 feet from a 40" display and are locked into some console games 60 degree FOV it will cause this problem.   Sitting further back will decrease the visible viewing angle and let your brain see the image how it expects to see it. 

 

A lot of games developers don't seem to care much about this particularly important aspect of design.   A locked lower viewing angle makes the game much easier to optimize since less is being drawn on the screen.   This is usually very apparent in PC ports since people sit closer to their screens and our displays are growing steadily in size as well.    People aren't sitting in front of 15" monitors anymore. 



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Putting the game into a smaller window can help too



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Try a glass of ginger beer(it's a soft drink) sometimes ginger helps seasickness. Use to get bad head pain when playing FPS in the dark ages (90s) 



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Chanda

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Try a glass of ginger beer(it's a soft drink) sometimes ginger helps seasickness. Use to get bad head pain when playing FPS in the dark ages (90s) 

 

Isn't that a British drink?

 

Not to derail the thread, but I remember when I visited the UK, and I went to a pub and asked for a rootbeer. The bartender looks at me and says, "Are you American?" I said yes, I am, and he said, "Well, this is England. We don't have rootbeer in England." So I asked if he had a Coke instead, and that's what I got, lol.

 

I did try Ginger beer in England... Wow it was different from what I expected.



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Never heard it happening from 3rd person (bar games that have the camera really close, like Resi 4) Normally its cured by widening the fov. If you can play Dragon age or Mass effect fine then you should in theory be ok with Inquisition. 



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This happens to me all the time as well. Any first person game is a NO NO for me. Just watching youtube videos of FPS games destroys my head. It's funny because what introduced me to gaming was Counter Strike and now I cant stand to play any from its genre. But I'm quite sure this won't be the case for dragon age, if yes, i'll probably be nauseated for 100 hours or more.



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Is it motion sickness if, when you're playing say Skyrim, you sometimes get towers or something that have fallen down and you go in and it's all wrong and you get a headache and feel like vomiting? Cuz that would SUCK to have all the time.



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I have a few games that give me motion sickness, but I've never had a problem with DA.  I can't play SWTOR zoomed in- I have to play it with the camera all the way out or I get motion sickness.  Maybe look into sea-bands if you can find them near you, they work really well for motion sickness.



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Isn't that a British drink?


Alcoholic ginger beer is British.

Non-alcoholic ginger beer is American, though it's more likely to be called ginger ale. Root beer and ginger ale are American drinks because America had the temperance movement and Prohibition.
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Thank you all for interesting advises. Still hope to be able to play the game without any medication. And it looks like in the worst case that Tactical view might be a solution. I never had any problem with DAO or DA2. However in NWN1 (yes, that old and supposedly harmless in terms of motion sickness game) had a camera view I could not stand for 5 minutes without getting sick. Switching to practically isometric view cured all but here you have it - a Bioware game on the old known engine yet with camera problem. 

 

DAI has a new engine and as Navasha perfectly summed it up -   A lot of games developers don't seem to care much about this particularly important aspect of design. I would go as far as to say that aspect is never even considered (otherwise there would be less sickening games and more FPS players). So, I do worry and still hope for an answer of someone who played already. And keep in mind Tactical camera :)



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This happens to me all the time as well. Any first person game is a NO NO for me. Just watching youtube videos of FPS games destroys my head. It's funny because what introduced me to gaming was Counter Strike and now I cant stand to play any from its genre. But I'm quite sure this won't be the case for dragon age, if yes, i'll probably be nauseated for 100 hours or more.

 

This is me. And my husband, as well. But he prefers to 'man' his way through them by taking breaks everytime he feels sick. Other games that have made me feel sick... anything that involves jumping around a lot. Like in Infamous, gives me a nasty case of vertigo! Especially when looking down. If I do manage to play a game that makes me sick, and I want to play it... I just take breaks in between. Which is what we all should be doing, anyway. But who listens to that? :P I was a bit worried about DA:I, but from what I've seen... I don't think that'll be the case.