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[Dusksworn]

This is just something I've recently been pondering, with how Corypheus was a Tevinter Magister and the Architect is implied to be another. Not to mention that they probably aren't the only two Darkspawn of their type, and they seem to be pretty ageless and immortal.

 

But that's not really the entire point. The entire point is that it's very likely that either the Old Gods will run out one day, or these old Tevinter Magisters will cure a sufficiently large number of their brethren that it won't matter.

 

The thing of that is, these Tevinter Magisters were never very good people. If any of their number succeed in the task of turning the Darkspawn into intelligent, sapient entities under their authority, we're going to have traded a mindless horde of monsters for a well-ordered army of intelligent, thinking, immortals who require no sustenance and have no need to devote any of their resources or attention to producing food.

 

An army that would theoretically be led by the ancient Tevinter Magisters. Magisters who were very far from unambitious, and went to the Golden City seeking the power of the Gods and managed to come back with immortality and a few other things, who would probably know long forgotten magics and might desire a return to their glory days when they ruled all of Thedas.

 

So.

 

This question needs to be asked. How long is it until the ancient Tevinter Magisters start reappearing amongst the Darkspawn and bringing order to their countless hordes? How long would it take to forge them into a new Imperium?

 

Do Darkspawn even need to sleep?

 

I probably didn't write this up as well as it could have been, but I think this is a question that may eventually need to be asked.

 

How would Thedas even respond to such a threat?

[Colbyachi]

Considering I preserved the anvil of the void, turn most soldiers into golems with the mages for support. What could go wrong? On a serious note, probably end up in a situation like the dwarves are in where they slowly get pushed back unless they create a weapon strong enough to use against them.

[Killdren88]

So like the Dragon Age equivalent of Mordor and the Orcs?

[Medhia_Nox]

I'd actually prefer a kingdom of Abominations.

 

The ones in Broken Circle - very much believed themselves to be the evolution of mages.  I'd love to see a nation of these monsters spring up - as they send monsters out to track down mages and drag them back to be forcibly turned into abominations.

 

A great twisted hell on earth. 

[Dusksworn]

So like the Dragon Age equivalent of Mordor and the Orcs?

Didn't the Orcs still need food? Also, the awakened Disciples don't seem entirely Orc-like in mannerism...

 

What I'm thinking of is more of a deliberate recreation of the old Tevinter Imperium in many ways, except with the very obvious differences that there would be.

 

With the Taint capable of providing mana, they wouldn't even need to bother mining for Lyrium. With the Taint providing sustenance, they wouldn't need to bother farming for food or drink. With the massive broods their Broodmothers produce, they can replenish their armies quite easily, and Darkspawn don't seem to age either.

 

In short, they would be an empire of inherently magical immortals, almost like the Elves supposedly were, but uglier. Capable of fielding great armies, and having almost no need to do anything to provide sustainable resources for them, as the Darkspawn don't need many resources to sustain their numbers. The Taint provides for their basic needs.

 

Without the mindlessness of their Calling, the Darkspawn are... Well... They're just superior to other lifeforms in terms of simple pragmatic function. If they were also intelligent and cultured, one might think that the price the Magisters paid for their corrupt immortality was well worth it.

[Killdren88]

Didn't the Orcs still need food? Also, the awakened Disciples don't seem entirely Orc-like in mannerism...

 

What I'm thinking of is more of a deliberate recreation of the old Tevinter Imperium in many ways, except with the very obvious differences that there would be.

 

With the Taint capable of providing mana, they wouldn't even need to bother mining for Lyrium. With the Taint providing sustenance, they wouldn't need to bother farming for food or drink. With the massive broods their Broodmothers produce, they can replenish their armies quite easily, and Darkspawn don't seem to age either.

 

In short, they would be an empire of inherently magical immortals, almost like the Elves supposedly were, but uglier. Capable of fielding great armies, and having almost no need to do anything to provide sustainable resources for them, as the Darkspawn don't need many resources to sustain their numbers. The Taint provides for their basic needs.

 

Without the mindlessness of their Calling, the Darkspawn are... Well... They're just superior to other lifeforms in terms of simple pragmatic function. If they were also intelligent and cultured, one might think that the price the Magisters paid for their corrupt immortality was well worth it.

 

I'd kill to see a brilliant Darkspawn General. Genius with tactics and utterly ruthless.

[Dusksworn]

I'd kill to see a brilliant Darkspawn General. Genius with tactics and utterly ruthless.

Well, that's sort of the thing.

 

There's a good chance that they'll have such things. The Disciples of the Architect handed the Grey Wardens their asses at Vigil's Keep until the player arrived.

 

Most were either slaughtered or kidnapped.

 

Making them smart might have stopped them from being a mindlessly aggressive horde of pure evil murder monsters, but it's done absolutely nothing to stop them from being an intelligently aggressive army of self-interested, somewhat amoral and ambitious people willing to murder at their convenience.

[powerXmad]

Must kill them all before this happens

[Dusksworn]

Must kill them all before this happens

That would require either locating all of the Darkspawn Tevinter Magisters, or exterminating the Darkspawn. The second one has been nigh impossible so far, though the first might be doable if they aren't all capable of body hopping or if there are limits on that trait.

 

However, even then...

 

What happens to the Darkspawn after the last Old God dies as an Archdemon? The Calling is still going to end after the last Blight is over with.

[Eveangaline]

I don't know if the darkspawn will keep existing for long after the final old god is tainted/defeated.

[Panda]

I'd like to see underground darkspawn kingdom of awakened darkspawn myself

[Dusksworn]

I don't know if the darkspawn will keep existing for long after the final old god is tainted/defeated.

 

Why wouldn't they? The Taint comes from the Black City, not the Old Gods.

 

I'd like to see underground darkspawn kingdom of awakened darkspawn myself

Well, the way I see it, unless the Darkspawn can all be exterminated they'll eventually awaken one way or another. Either through the influence of the Magisters, or the death of the Old Gods and the end of the Calling.

 

I've always been curious about what would happen to the Darkspawn after their last Old God died.

[Wolfen09]

the magisters cannot control the darkspawn as well as an arch demon can....  if the remaining 2 original magisters are reawakened (assuming the architect was one of them.... think there was 4 total) and they decide to join corypheus, it could be an even bigger problem as corypheus seems to be able to control more than just the darkspawn (wardens, even the carta dwarves).  It might not be a imperium of darkspawn, but an imperium of darkspawn, grey wardens, and others they bend to their will.

 

I honestly think we will never see this happen, more than likely the magisters will appear one at a time, never at the same time from now on.  I also doubt we will see more than one arch demon at a time as well (some speculating a double blight could happen)

[Dusksworn]

the magisters cannot control the darkspawn as well as an arch demon can....  if the remaining 2 original magisters are reawakened (assuming the architect was one of them.... think there was 4 total) and they decide to join corypheus, it could be an even bigger problem as corypheus seems to be able to control more than just the darkspawn (wardens, even the carta dwarves).  It might not be a imperium of darkspawn, but an imperium of darkspawn, grey wardens, and others they bend to their will.

 

I honestly think we will never see this happen, more than likely the magisters will appear one at a time, never at the same time from now on.  I also doubt we will see more than one arch demon at a time as well (some speculating a double blight could happen)

It's not necessarily about mindcontrolling the Darkspawn. Who do you think Awakened Darkspawn would look to for guidance?

 

If we have several Magisters working together, they could probably eliminate any other rivals that might appear, and with them having been self-aware for longer than any other Darkspawn, it would make sense if many of them deferred to their experience.

[fhs33721]

I don't know if the darkspawn will keep existing for long after the final old god is tainted/defeated.

 

Wouldn't they just simply all become awakened once the last old god died, because the song of the old gods no longer controls them?
 

[Gervaise]

If you spare that disciple of the Architect who acts as a messenger to you at Amaranthine, he goes on to become a sort guardian of the roads, protecting travellers and pilgrims from danger, although occasionally inadvertently infecting them as well.     This is what threw up a rather interesting moral dilemma because formerly darkspawn were just mindless killers so there was no problem in destroying them en mass but if they are capable of moral decisions and use their freewill to act against their perceived nature, then simply killing them could be seen as wrong.  

 

Even ancient Magisters could be capable of a change of heart.    Even if not, they might not necessarily take kindly to working together.    If they did, though, I agree that could be a big problem.

[Dusksworn]

If you spare that disciple of the Architect who acts as a messenger to you at Amaranthine, he goes on to become a sort guardian of the roads, protecting travellers and pilgrims from danger, although occasionally inadvertently infecting them as well.     This is what threw up a rather interesting moral dilemma because formerly darkspawn were just mindless killers so there was no problem in destroying them en mass but if they are capable of moral decisions and use their freewill to act against their perceived nature, then simply killing them could be seen as wrong.  

 

Even ancient Magisters could be capable of a change of heart.    Even if not, they might not necessarily take kindly to working together.    If they did, though, I agree that could be a big problem.

Well, the Magisters worked together once upon a time, though you're entirely right that the Awakened Darkspawn wouldn't necessarily be entirely hostile.

 

That's not really my point. My point is that they could be a powerful force capable of overwhelming any other that they chose to. An intelligent army of Darkspawn could conquer Thedas if they still wanted to.

[TheLastSuperSaiyan87]

off topic but has it been said if the Darkspawn will be in DAI at all?