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[SamanthaJ]

Hey, let's try to keep things positive, alright?  

 

What's your favorite type of personality for your elven characters?

If I'm playing Dalish?

 

[Mistic]

Hey, let's try to keep things positive, alright?  

 

What's your favorite type of personality for your elven characters?

 

It depends. Normally, I go with the flow, depending on the character's background and the available dialogue. It's interesting, but apart from the crazy awesome Malkavian run in Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines, I've found Dragon Age games the best to roleplay. Not even other Bioware games reach that level for me.

 

That said, I normally like to take into consideration the experiences that influence a character. If we take the elven origins in DA:O, I'd say:

-The City Elves are street-smart because of necessity. Also, mother was a canon rogue.

-The Mage Elves are more intellectual. The Circle Tower is full of books, and they had to study something in all those years in the tower.

-The Dalish Elves know more about nature for obvious reasons, but nothing about city life.

 

The Dalish Mage in DA:I might provide an opportunity to mix types 2 and 3.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Hey, let's try to keep things positive, alright?  

 

What's your favorite type of personality for your elven characters?

 

Occasionally a bit cold and blunt in outward demeanor, bit on the quiet side (always thought that fit best, seeing as the Warden only says a maximum of two sentences at a time and never chimes in during party banter...) and with an extremely dry sense of humour, but a generally good person with everyone's best interest at heart underneath it all. 

 

At least, that's what I went with for my Warden, anyway.

 

No clue what my eventual elf Inquisitor will be like. 

[BronzTrooper]

For me, it does depend on the background for my characters, so it varies from background to background.

 

Going on DA:O's elf origins:

 

City Elf: More street-wise and cynical of nobility.  Values trust and companionship more than honor and pragmatism.

 

Elf Mage:  More intellectual and somewhat awkward in the real world, due to having lived in the Circle their entire life.  More on the quiet side, considering the change in surroundings, though they eventually start to open up.

 

Dalish Elf:  Wary of humans, expert on everything to do with hunting and foraging, values loyalty and respect.  More on the diplomatic side.

 

As for my f!Dalish Inquisitor, I'm probably going to go with something similar to my Dalish Warden, but more humorous.

[raging_monkey]

Lets post full bios of our dalish inqs just to kill time XD

[BronzTrooper]

Lets post full bios of our dalish inqs just to kill time XD

 

tbh, I kind of need to know more about the Dalish backstory before I can get started on that.  Maybe I'll post mine after DA:I launches.  

[Icy Magebane]

Hey, let's try to keep things positive, alright?  

 

What's your favorite type of personality for your elven characters?

I preferred the Lawful Good elven mage... a character who took great joy in making the world a better place and helping those in need.  Obviously this type of character had no interest in blood magic and refused all demonic pacts and rituals of dubious morality, including the Dark Ritual and Avernus's potion.  He tended to be kind towards everyone he met, but because of his dedication to goodness and purity, he only really got along with Alistair, Wynne, and Leliana...  Oghren was tolerated, but the two of them didn't really have any common ground...

 

Whenever I play as an elven mage, I tend to replay this character's story, with a few variations here and there sometimes...

[Mistic]

tbh, I kind of need to know more about the Dalish backstory before I can get started on that.  Maybe I'll post mine after DA:I launches.  

 

Very sensible. I still remember the disappointment of many after the backgrounds were revealed. Too many detailed headcanons that didn't survive the first contact with the official canon.

[Bugsie]

My Elf is in my Avatar, though I suppose I could also place my new Elf as well.

Magnus Mahariel, Dalish Mage (Mod)

Your character looks like a fair Daniel Day Lewis!

[Icy Magebane]

Your character looks like a fair Daniel Day Lewis!

lol I can totally see it... xD

[raging_monkey]

Very sensible. I still remember the disappointment of many after the backgrounds were revealed. Too many detailed headcanons that didn't survive the first contact with the official canon.

i thought i my elf was fine til i looked at the backgrounds still fixing it XD

[Xilizhra]

Very sensible. I still remember the disappointment of many after the backgrounds were revealed. Too many detailed headcanons that didn't survive the first contact with the official canon.

This, too, has been my strategy. Thankfully, my actual background survived. It basically has me being the younger daughter of Danyla from Zathrian's clan, and one who competed to reach the position of First... but was only about 13 at the time and wound up losing to Lanaya. I can see my Inquisitor, Eiria, being angry by that, but learning from the experience that all elves are worth preserving, not just those with Dalish blood. However, she wound up going to another clan that needed more mages right before the werewolf attack, and only heard about everything that happened there from afar, including her older sister trying to hunt down Danyla's killer in Kirkwall. Additionally, I see her finding love with a Circle runaway mage (possibly one of the two options for the mage PC in DAO) who later got killed by templars.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

No, it shows the character is Dalish. That's the point. No one would care if not for the fact that there isn't any other available Elf origin in DA:I.

 

Trying to deny the Dalish tattoos in the Dalish Inquisitor is like denying the noble family for the Human Inquisitor, the mercenary group for the Qunari Inquisitor or the Carta membership for the Dwarf Inquisitor. It's part of the background. You take it or not, but that's the deal. I'm sure that if our Dwarf happened to be casteless instead of surfacer, we would have to deal with the casteless tattoo.

It is not the same. In the Human background for example, it flat out says you can disagree with them. Yet there is no such option for the Dalish since you got the "I am a proud member of this culture" stamped into your face. And if there is such an option, then it is contrary to the ink and blood that is injected into your skin for life. So at the very least, 90%-45% of your life was that of a Pro-Dalish Dalish since by the time you were of age, you got them. 

And our Dwarf Inquisitor is a Casteless since those on the surface lose their caste, and yet you don't have to deal with the brand. 

 

Not really. Unless we are forced to play pro-Circle Human Mages, pro-Chantry Human Warriors, pro-Carta dwarves and Qunari fond of mercenary life too. In which case it would be worrisome.

 

But in general, I think it's a matter of not having anything better. The Human Noble background already implies that the character may not be interested in a Chantry career; nevertheless, the fact is that they went through it for years as expected of their family. Nothing says that the Dwarf enjoys working for gangsters, yet maybe they didn't have a better choice at the time. The Qunari might want to do something different with their life, but I suspect that there aren't many job offers for their race in Thedas. The same way, the Lavellan Clan is said not to have a lot of contact with the outside world, so life in the clan may be the only life the Inquisitor has known, even if they didn't like it.

Except for those examples, minus the Human one, they have no choice. The Qunari as you said has no other options in life, the Dwarf can have any numbers of reasons why they stick around, such as the Carta would kill them if they left. And yet the Dalish one is the only one where you being bound to them is completely your choice to the point where it changes your appearance, in this case you putting their stamp of approval in your face. 

 

You're not race-gated to Solas and Sera romances only [as a real pro-dalish would be], so I would say you're going to get at least a bit of leeway.

Fair point. 

 

That isn't going to happen.  Even the Dalish Warden had the option of being disrespectful to Zathrian's clan.

You were also able to not wear Vallaslin in that, so not a good example. 

 

Those are some big conclusions to make based on comments from fellow forumites. 

It's not just based on comments from forumites. It is from connecting the dots of what we know about the backstory and the culture of said backstory. 

 

Some people are determined to be bitter about something. The Dalish are probably one of the most hated groups in the entire Dragon Age universe by forumites for some reason, so many of them are automatically assuming the worst about the dalish inquisitor based on their own perceptions. 

 

Strange how these negative views on what they may be forced to believe are limited to the Dalish only by these same people. 

I am not hating on the Dalish. As much as I don't want to be one, I wouldn't want to rob people who do of it. 

Again, I just don't like how all evidence points to us having to be only a Pro-Dalish Dalish. 

 

I was referring to those city elves who resent their fellows who move up in the world, leave the Alienage and be successful, or just rock the boat in any way. The xenophobia is pretty much the same as those of other Andrastians, and the forced marriages are still a problem.

I know who you were referring to. A few individuals do not represent a culture. Meanwhile the Dalish see themselves as the 'true elves'. 

Seeing as many Andrastians aren't xenophobic, I don't see how them being like that is an insult. 

I agree with forced marriages being a problem. 

 

This, too, has been my strategy. Thankfully, my actual background survived. It basically has me being the younger daughter of Danyla from Zathrian's clan, and one who competed to reach the position of First... but was only about 13 at the time and wound up losing to Lanaya. I can see my Inquisitor, Eiria, being angry by that, but learning from the experience that all elves are worth preserving, not just those with Dalish blood. However, she wound up going to another clan that needed more mages right before the werewolf attack, and only heard about everything that happened there from afar, including her older sister trying to hunt down Danyla's killer in Kirkwall. Additionally, I see her finding love with a Circle runaway mage (possibly one of the two options for the mage PC in DAO) who later got killed by templars.

You share the same surname as the clan you come from. You are from that clan, so not from any other clan like Zathrian's. 

[Icy Magebane]

 

It is not the same. In the Human background for example, it flat out says you can disagree with them. Yet there is no such option for the Dalish since you got the "I am a proud member of this culture" stamped into your face. And if there is such an option, then it is contrary to the ink and blood that is injected into your skin for life. So at the very least, 90%-45% of your life was that of a Pro-Dalish Dalish since by the time you were of age, you got them. 

And our Dwarf Inquisitor is a Casteless since those on the surface lose their caste, and yet you don't have to deal with the brand. 

The dwarven Inquisitor is irrelevant because surface dwarves aren't given a brand before leaving Orzammar.  They dwarves keep track of them by not letting them back into the city unless supervised (and only in rare cases).  Plus, surface dwarf families persist for generations... if the Inquisitor was born topside, their parents wouldn't brand them out of respect for Orzammar's traditions.  Just look at Varric.

 

I also disagree with this idea that we "have to" play by any specific code of conduct, regardless of our race, but I don't see much point in going over that again.

[Icy Magebane]

You were also able to not wear Vallaslin in that, so not a good example.

We went over this weeks ago... the Dalish Warden was selected on the basis of merit and because s/he was already infected by the Blight.  There was never any indication that they were an adult in the eyes of the clan, and regardless of that, being a full member of the Dalish had no bearing on Duncan's reason for choosing Mahariel.  Being Dalish only effected a PC's personality to the extent that the player wished, with or without vallaslin.  Nothing was forced upon us.

 

edit:  sorry to double post, but I just noticed this and didn't think to add it to my previous post...

[raging_monkey]

Whyvis this a issue? Dont wanna be a dalish, dont its only a small part of the game. Or headcanon somethings

[Xilizhra]

 

You share the same surname as the clan you come from. You are from that clan, so not from any other clan like Zathrian's. 

 

Merrill wasn't originally from the Sabrae clan. And have you confirmed that the surname is of the clan? As Mahariel wasn't named Sabrae. Not to mention that there's nothing stating that a Dalish couldn't change their name to match a new clan they joined.

Also, do you not see the problem with first telling me to stop generalizing, then generalizing like hell yourself?

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I think the clan name vs surname thing was just a mixup on Bioware's part. The DAO manual says that the Dalish Warden belongs to the Maharial Clan. In Dragon Age 2 they needed a name to call him or her so I guess they changed the clan name to Sabrae.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

I think perhaps the Dalish Warden's father was transfered in from some Mahariel clan, much like Merrill was, and just kept the name and their son/daughter inherited it.

At least, that's how I'd explain it.

[animedreamer]

They look sooooooooooo amazing.

 

That face of the girl, is sooooooo my Inquisitor!!!

 

Thank you, both were generated with pre-face mods, and then adjusted through the CC by me. So i can't take all of the credit.

[animedreamer]

Your character looks like a fair Daniel Day Lewis!

I googled this person, and yes i can see it now too XD

 

[animedreamer]

If I'm playing Dalish?

 

lol

 

Dalish: I think i found a ancient Elven Artifact from Arlathans time, .... 

Keeper: I see, this must be a ancient Elven hair comb...

Human: Looks like a fork to me.. 

 

Dalish Clan: SHUT UP HUMAN!! STOP RUINING OUR HISTORY!

[Jedi Master of Orion]

1. Creates cures that plagues Fereldan for centuries. 

2. Summons extremely demons just to turn on mirrors, said demon then massacres clan.  

3. Kills someone just for being human and too close to their camps

4. Threatens you for seven years

5. In that time they continue to remind you just how many people are planning to kill you at a moment's notice

6. The best way to prevent possession is to be possessed. 

7. Ostracizing city elves 

8. Sacking cities

9. Siting out of Blights 

 

I too wonder why people hate the Dalish so much. 

 

1. Zathrian created a curse that affected a part of one forest in the corner of Ferelden where very few people live. And he did so in revenge for a tribe of humans murdering his children, not at random because he hates humans.

 

2. A demon that massacres the clan because a human was stupid enough to release it.

 

3. Or he lets them go unharmed. And humans being too close to their camp is usually a bad sign for the Dalish, as the fact that the village tries to drive the off anyway proves.

 

4. Who? Merrill? The guards that let you come and go as you please? People seem to like to forget that many of the NPCs in the Dalish camp are actually pretty friendly and prefer to remember only the guards.

 

5. Not people "planning to kill you," people who could open fire to defend the clan at any sign of hostility. What, you think Dalish have no reason to be cautious of dangerous outsiders?

 

6. To become possessed in a place where Hawke can kill the demon for good.

 

7. Except for all the times they don't of course. Which is a lot of the time. Plus, out of all the things the City Elves suffer, this isn't high on their list of problems. Do the same people that hate the Dalish for this also hate all the humans for directly oppressing the City Elves?

 

8. The small village Red Crossing is the only concrete example. Also anything the Dales did applies to the City Elves as well, not just the Dalish. Do the City Elves get any hate for this?

 

9. Applies to the City Elves as well. And also other human countries such as Orlais and Tevinter. In fact Tevinter abandoned other nations to die more than once.

[Master Warder Z_]

Dalish = Stupid morons who summon demons and then whine when it frees itself.

[RobRam10]

Dalish = Stupid morons who summon demons and then whine when it frees itself.

I was wondering when you would show up.