Here's an honest question to the elf fans out there
Do you worry that the elves are going to get a short stick when it comes to being able to voice what you'd like?
I don't really care, tbh. I like that we actually get choices for our Inquisitor's accent instead of having one VA for each gender, regardless of race. Even if it's only a choice between British and American.
I like how you say it is a break from the Andrastrian point of view and yet we've never had to be Andrastrian.
Hawke had no choice.
I like how you say it is a break from the Andrastrian point of view and yet we've never had to be Andrastrian.
We were forced to be an Andrastian human in Dragon Age II. I prefer the break from playing as someone who is culturally Andrastian, and I find the culture of the Dalish very interesting. The prospect of playing as a Dalish mage who is in a position to help the elves appeals to me. You're welcome to feel differently, of course, but it's nevertheless how I feel.
All I read was gorilla warfare and now I'm sold.
I demand gorilla warfare specialization.
Oghren riding without pants atop a great Silverback Gorilla!
All I read was gorilla warfare and now I'm sold.
I demand gorilla warfare specialization.
Reminds me of this old gem from the meme thread...
The Dalish speak some elvish, as we hear the Dalish use a number of elvish terms along with the Common Tongue, and Merrill even refers to a romanced Hawke with an elvish term of endearment.
As for Finn, you're conflating his familiarity with a single word with the entirety of the language, and that's only possible because the Circle took a number of elven artifacts and tomes after the fall of the Dales.
I can swear in Spanish, German, Klingon, Dwarvish, Elvish, Gnomish, and Elvish. That doesn't make me polylingual. The elves use the few words they know, but they couldn't hold a prolonged discussion entirely in Elvish. The mages know more because they have access to older books, which can even predate the formation, let alone the fall, of the Dales.
Oghren riding without pants atop a great Silverback Gorilla!
its the only way to ensure they aren't schleets
I can swear in Spanish, German, Klingon, Dwarvish, Elvish, Gnomish, and Elvish. That doesn't make me polylingual. The elves use the few words they know, but they couldn't hold a prolonged discussion entirely in Elvish. The mages know more because they have access to older books, which can even predate the formation, let alone the fall, of the Dales.
Then provide a source of mages speaking in elvish as part of their studies, and holding a conversation.
Hawke had no choice.
We were forced to be an Andrastian human in Dragon Age II. I prefer the break from playing as someone who is culturally Andrastian, and I find the culture of the Dalish very interesting. The prospect of playing as a Dalish mage who is in a position to help the elves appeals to me. You're welcome to feel differently, of course, but it's nevertheless how I feel.
You can be against the Chantry in DA2.
Hawke was culturally Ferelden and/or Free Marches-ian(?).
Uh...I like City Elves. Still wished they were in DAI. Hopefully next time. *waves city elves forever flag*
I empathize with them the most of the DA groups.
They are still able to cease living on the fringes anytime they wish and walk into an alienage.
And City Elves can leave and join the Dalish as we have seen
Sooo... then you do think they are both equally at fault for their respective situations?
Here's an honest question to the elf fans out there
Do you worry that the elves are going to get a short stick when it comes to being able to voice what you'd like?
We know the game was originally designed around a human inquisitor, presumably based around the same "origin" we get as humans, ie closely knit to the Circle and Chantry. Therefore I am somewhat skeptical that the non-andrastians such as Tal Vashoth and Dalish are going to get shafted in being able to portray their non-andrastian views.
Given the amount of dialogue in the game, it's pretty central to player character to be able to say things that don't sound out of place for their culture, so I don't see them going through all the effort to add in the other races if they were only going to do them in appearance only. If anything the fact that the Inquisitor is Dalish suggests that they will put effort into non Andrastian Cultures because making a City Elf only Inquisitor would have easily been less effort when it comes to writing dialogue because they are mostly Andrastian too. It would have been easier to mask any limitations that way.
You can be against the Chantry in DA2.
Hawke was culturally Ferelden and/or Free Marches-ian(?).
I'd go with "culturally a free marcher"
And I can sympathize with that, but it is still their responsibility for remaining on the edges of society.
Since they can in fact join city elf society at any given time, perhaps they may face ostracism and such but that is not the point, they can be blamed for maintaining their lives at the periphery of life.
I've been one of those people who was bullied in school for little to no reason. Many times, it was entire groups ganging up on me. It only stopped when I finally stood up for myself. If I had to choose between living at the fringes of society or deal with that again, I'd choose sticking to the fringes of society.
imo, the Dalish choosing to live at the fringes of human society is the same concept. Choosing solitude over oppression is much more appealing.
I'd go with "culturally a free marcher"
Nah Fereldan. remember all the quips you get about people realizing you're Fereldan from teh way you move and act?
You can be against the Chantry in DA2.
Hawke was culturally Ferelden and/or Free Marches-ian(?).
Perhaps you saw something I didn't. Where in DA2 could Hawke be against the Chantry, or show disbelief in Andraste and the Maker?
Sooo... then you do think they are both equally at fault for their respective situations?
no that's not what I said, the Dalish are to blame for their current living conditions by virtue of their independence
City elves don't get a say unless they leave
Nah Fereldan. remember all the quips you get about people realizing you're Fereldan from teh way you move and act?
Hawke is a man of the world with an Apostate from who Knows where, a Kirkwall mother, a Fereldan upbringing, and a Kirkwall adulthood.
imo, the Dalish choosing to live at the fringes of human society is the same concept. Choosing solitude over oppression is much more appealing.
and because of that independence, it is their fault they live in such conditions, they cannot blame humans for it, they cannot blame city elves for it
no that's not what I said, the Dalish are to blame for their current living conditions by virtue of their independence
City elves don't get a say unless they leave
And Dalish can choose to live among humans, and often end up in alienages. Their religion is outlawed by the Chantry.
If they wish to live as they choose, they have to be separated from human societies.
Nah Fereldan. remember all the quips you get about people realizing you're Fereldan from teh way you move and act?
I meant that if you were going to describe someone who hails from the free marches
and because of that independence, it is their fault they live in such conditions, they cannot blame humans for it, they cannot blame city elves for it
Dalish live pretty well I think. Nomadic wise, they seem much better off than most humans.
I meant that if you were going to describe someone who hails from the free marches
Oh. Lol
Hawke is a man of the world with an Apostate from who Knows where, a Kirkwall mother, a Fereldan upbringing, and a Kirkwall adulthood.
XD
If only he had stayed away from Kirkwall 
You can be against the Chantry in DA2.
Hawke was culturally Ferelden and/or Free Marches-ian(?).
Ferelden is an Andrastian nation. Being culturally Andrastian doesn't necessitate that one is religiously Andrastian, or that one supports the Chantry of Andraste; DragonFlight and I made it clear we were addressing the cultural aspect, not the religious aspect.
And Dalish can choose to live among humans, and often end up in alienages. Their religion is outlawed by the Chantry.
If they wish to live as they choose, they have to be separated from human societies.
yes, that's my point. The Dalish get a choice in the matter, for the most part as far as we've seen city elves don't
I meant that if you were going to describe someone who hails from the free marches
By foriegners they're all lumped together as Marchers, however people who live there identify more with there city-state... so Kirkwaller?
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