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#476
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any females i have to do.... research into...onto qunari breeding habit for knowledge * rolls wagon full of chocolate chip cookies* this payment sufficient?

Sure.

 

Once you submit to the Qun ;)



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Sure. Once you submit to the Qun ;)

i submit to tge qun.... i am a weak man lol

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When people on the forum rant about "Submitting to the Qun" I cant help but think sexual assault 



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When people on the forum rant about "Submitting to the Qun" I cant help but think sexual assault

wow only 9:38 in da morn ok im down for bit of debate.

*Ahem* while selective breeding in some circles is considered SA its partly consenting due to cultural pressures(thougth consent is very rare imo). Now in this hypothetical if a Qunari(race/follower) refused to breed with x partner they would be either forced or more likly killed or given qamek to create a mindless drone for x purpose. Now again this is speculation with little evidence. I get your joke but hey its friday lol

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wow only 9:38 in da morn ok im down for bit of debate.

*Ahem* while selective breeding in some circles is considered SA its partly consenting due to cultural pressures(thougth consent is very rare imo). Now in this hypothetical if a Qunari(race/follower) refused to breed with x partner they would be either forced or more likly killed or given qamek to create a mindless drone for x purpose. Now again this is speculation with little evidence. I get your joke but hey its friday lol

That's... a rather grim prospect, but I suppose it's something they have to address from time to time.  As far as I can tell, Qunari believe in and follow the Qun without question, and that extends to the breeding program.  If a Qunari refuses to follow any demand of the Qun, they are sent off to be re-educated.  If that fails, then they are no longer capable of fulfilling their purpose and will be made compliant by the use of qamek.  Afterward, they are sent off to plow fields or lift boxes so that their bodies won't go to waste... now... I have no idea if the Qunari would still want those genes, but... hm... I guess they might.  Maybe they would see the lack of mental toughness that led to the need to use qamek as a critical flaw, so that person would be left alone, but it's hard to say for sure...



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Like i said pure speculation. Idk how they work overall just aspects of there culture

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Like i said pure speculation. Idk how they work overall just aspects of there culture

Well, it's a grim question to ponder, but an interesting one... the Qunari waste nothing, but I'm not sure exactly how they feel about qamek zombies or how important compliance with the Qun is when determining which couples will be bred.  For example, if you ever need to be sent to re-education, does that go into your file and harm your chances for breeding later on?  Do they pair you with somebody who's not very impressive but is borderline acceptable as a Qunari?  I don't know if the comics ever went into this, but it wasn't really discussed in the games... what exactly determines who can breed?  Is it as simple as strong Qunari breeding with smart Qunari, or is there something more in-depth?  Although we will likely be able to ask Iron Bull a few general questions about the Qunari, something this specific might not be answered in DA:I.  If not, then we may find out in World of Thedas 2, since that is supposed to deal with the "northern lands."



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Well, it's a grim question to ponder, but an interesting one... the Qunari waste nothing, but I'm not sure exactly how they feel about qamek zombies or how important compliance with the Qun is when determining which couples will be bred.  For example, if you ever need to be sent to re-education, does that go into your file and harm your chances for breeding later on?  Do they pair you with somebody who's not very impressive but is borderline acceptable as a Qunari?  I don't know if the comics ever went into this, but it wasn't really discussed in the games... what exactly determines who can breed?  Is it as simple as strong Qunari breeding with smart Qunari, or is there something more in-depth?  Although we will likely be able to ask Iron Bull a few general questions about the Qunari, something this specific might not be answered in DA:I.  If not, then we may find out in World of Thedas 2, since that is supposed to deal with the "northern lands."

qunari came from the north so its likely

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see

 

I am a Qunari mage and I believe that freedom and discipline must be properly balanced. I believe that the Qun must change if it is ever to send a better message to all of Thedas. I don't see it as an alternative to Andrastianism and its flawed system that oppress mages.

 

^^see above, my horned friend, for all your strength it is your own who will be your undoing.

For only Tevinter Understands the freedoms all mages deserve. sure some of the lesser house's my have hang up's and how to do things. 

But with proper........"persuasion" they will see the Qunari are the tools which will tear down the Qun.

 

Ashkost say hissra bas.  That is all that's left for you....you have chosen your side and your fate.



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see

 

 

^^see above, my horned friend, for all your strength it is your own who will be your undoing.

For only Tevinter Understands the freedoms all mages deserve. sure some of the lesser house's my have hang up's and how to do things. 

But with proper........"persuasion" they will see the Qunari are the tools which will tear down the Qun.

 

“As does a drowning man know the sea, so does a mage know magic”

 

Mages have their place as attack dogs....they make good weapons, and are to be honored for their trials.  Magic for your kind is a shortcut....a crutch for the weak.

 

Smart mages would submit now and wear their collar.  There will be a day they would welcome it. The day when all of Tevinter wishes it worried more about skill with merit over shortcuts. 

 

You will never see attash karasaad.  On that day when I walk over what rubble and stone is left of your so called proud city and your impenetrable wall blown to bits I will give those with a fire burning as you have a warriors death before leaving their husk.

 

Tal-Vashoth are nothing....they know they're nothing.  They are living on borrowed time (unless they resubmit) and nothing more.  They are no threat.  They are not organized....they do not resist.  They walk their own meaningless path just like all other bas.



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I like the people not the philosophy.  I'd sooner ally with Tevinter, much as I may disdain their penchant for slavery and embodying everything feared about mages.



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I like the people not the philosophy.  I'd sooner ally with Tevinter, much as I may disdain their penchant for slavery and embodying everything feared about mages.

Thats curious....what in your opinion makes the Qun worse?



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Thats curious....what in your opinion makes the Qun worse?

the whole "conversion or die"deal and selective breeding often dont sit well with most people

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the whole "conversion or die"deal and selective breeding often dont sit well with most people

We let people believe and do what they want for now. 

 

They started the Blight.



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We let people believe and do what they want for now.  They started the Blight.

now we get into who did what. And with that logic to one who is not a mage scholar like me would imply forced conversion by choice or more likly death/lobomtimization. Its a dangerous mindset

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“As does a drowning man know the sea, so does a mage know magic”

 

Mages have their place as attack dogs....they make good weapons, and are to be honored for their trials.  Magic for your kind is a shortcut....a crutch for the weak.

 

Smart mages would submit now and wear their collar.  There will be a day they would welcome it. The day when all of Tevinter wishes it worried more about skill with merit over shortcuts. 

 

You will never see attash karasaad.  On that day when I walk over what rubble and stone is left of your so called proud city and your impenetrable wall blown to bits I will give those with a fire burning as you have a warriors death before leaving their husk.

 

Tal-Vashoth are nothing....they know they're nothing.  They are living on borrowed time (unless they resubmit) and nothing more.  They are no threat.  They are not organized....they do not resist.  They walk their own meaningless path just like all other bas.

 

i would be amused if you weren't serious,

The Qun's knowledge of magic is as pathetic as those in southern thedas, likely worse.

A Tevinter magister commits their entire life to all things involving magic, from Lyrium to the Fade. 

You dare insult us by suggesting the pitiful pet's all call saabas are superior to the Knowledge and Power of a Magister of Tevinter!

We are chosen by the maker to lead all people and all nations to his side.

those that would seek to leash the makers chosen people are enemies of the maker himself and they will be cast aside in a great reckoning!

 

again with threats and boasts and yet you still sit rotting on your island as your own people abandon you.

Tevinter does not bend as easily as those fools in the south, you will never enter Minrathous except under the Lash of your new masters after your pitiful forces are smashed to dust. you really think your armies could Defeat those of tevinter? 

 

not the combined force of all those that seek our destruction could fell even on of the 3 juggernauts that guard Tevinters Greatest City!

you will be brought to bare and your masters will not be Magisters or even Atlases no for you are unworthy. You will serve those newly freed Mages from the ranks of the Qun, you will bear the lash from those you torture and mutilate and you will be great full that we offer you such mercy.

 

It will be your very saarebas that teach you the power of true magic and you come to understand that no one can defy the will of the marker. Not the corrupt White chantry not any archdemon and not some filthy horde of across the sea. 


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i would be amused if you weren't serious,The Qun's knowledge of magic is as pathetic as those in southern thedas, likely worse.A Tevinter magister commits their entire life to all things involving magic, from Lyrium to the Fade. You dare insult us by suggesting the pitiful pet's all call saabas are superior to the Knowledge and Power of a Magister of Tevinter!We are chosen by the maker to lead all people and all nations to his side.those that would seek to leash the makers chosen people are enemies of the maker himself and they will be cast aside in a great reckoning! again with threats and boasts and yet you still sit rotting on your island as your own people abandon you.Tevinter does not bend as easily as those fools in the south, you will never enter Minrathous except under the Lash of your new masters after your pitiful forces are smashed to dust. you really think your armies could Defeat those of tevinter?  not the combined force of all those that seek our destruction could fell even on of the 3 juggernauts that guard Tevinters Greatest City!you will be brought to bare and your masters will not be Magisters or even Atlases no for you are unworthy. You will serve those newly freed Mages from the ranks of the Qun, you will bear the lash from those you torture and mutilate and you will be great full that we offer you such mercy. It will be your very saarebas that teach you the power of true magic and you come to understand that no one can defy the will of the marker. Not the corrupt White chantry not any archdemon and not some filthy horde of across the sea.

"magic exists to serve man never to rule over them" you sound corrupted my mage brother

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We let people believe and do what they want for now. 

 

They started the Blight.

 

What would a Qunari know of a blight?



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"magic exists to serve man never to rule over them" you sound corrupted my mage brother

 

you missunderstand the txt, The south do not understand the true meaning of the chant.

it means magic must be used for the greater good.

Magi Must rule over mundanes if this is to come about as all to often we see the abuse of Mage's when they are not in charge.

 

Only Magi are fit to rule.


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"magic exists to serve man never to rule over them" you sound corrupted my mage brother

Magic exist to serve the greater good and that mean us magi must rule the mundane people for their betterment.


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Magic exist to serve the greater good and that mean us magi must rule the mundane people for their betterment.

you missunderstand the txt, The south do not understand the true meaning of the chant.it means magic must be used for the greater good.Magi Must rule over mundanes if this is to come about as all to often we see the abuse of Mage's when they are not in charge. Only Magi are fit to rule.

thats a slippery slope my brother/sisters whats to stop us from taking more than is allowed aha And what defines the greater good. Good is perspective

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i would be amused if you weren't serious,

The Qun's knowledge of magic is as pathetic as those in southern thedas, likely worse.

A Tevinter magister commits their entire life to all things involving magic, from Lyrium to the Fade. 

You dare insult us by suggesting the pitiful pet's all call saabas are superior to the Knowledge and Power of a Magister of Tevinter!

We are chosen by the maker to lead all people and all nations to his side.

those that would seek to leash the makers chosen people are enemies of the maker himself and they will be cast aside in a great reckoning!

 

again with threats and boasts and yet you still sit rotting on your island as your own people abandon you.

Tevinter does not bend as easily as those fools in the south, you will never enter Minrathous except under the Lash of your new masters after your pitiful forces are smashed to dust. you really think your armies could Defeat those of tevinter? 

 

not the combined force of all those that seek our destruction could fell even on of the 3 juggernauts that guard Tevinters Greatest City!

you will be brought to bare and your masters will not be Magisters or even Atlases no for you are unworthy. You will serve those newly freed Mages from the ranks of the Qun, you will bear the lash from those you torture and mutilate and you will be great full that we offer you such mercy.

 

It will be your very saarebas that teach you the power of true magic and you come to understand that no one can defy the will of the marker. Not the corrupt White chantry not any archdemon and not some filthy horde of across the sea. 

We know all we need to know of magic and know we do not need it. We will earn everything we have with work and skill.  We do not take the lazy and dangerous way. The Qun will light our path.

 

The Maker!?  where is he?  Tell him to show himself....prove his presence.  Tell him to submit too! While he still can!

 

We sit on our island because the Qun demands it and we will until the Qun demands we leave it.  I have ZERO doubt the Qun could defeat all of Tevinter and all of Thedas! If you're so sure that you can make us submit...if you want the saarebas come and get them.  Show your fire.  We stay because the Qun demands it.  You stay out of fear.

 

3 Juggernauts?  Do the weak ever fight for themselves?  Do you always need others to do your work.  Now you know what I mean when I called magic a crutch for the weak.  Why do you live?  Why do you choose to breathe KNOWING your people are so weak...so unworthy.....can you not do anything for yourselves?  Stand on your feet. 

 

Honor, Strength, Skill, Merit, Power.

 

Anaan, Asala, Talan, Ataash,Qunari!  Know these things! Learn them! Live them! Breathe them! BE THEM!

 

Mages are attack dogs....Saarebas are attack dogs.  Not you, not your people. No.  You are parasites.  worthless, pitiful, weak, Sucking on the teet of your magic to MAKE you strong because you never can be on your own.  All you do is take, take, take from your magic.  When its taken from you what will be left?  Anyone with any honor would not live like that.  Qunari anti magic is your future.

 

Disgusting.



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What would a Qunari know of a blight?

What would "Sten"?