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[dixophilia]

... that's really disgusting.  I'm going to pretend I never heard that, but thanks for the info.

I wouldn't worry about it. Nothing in the series has ever confirmed this as an actual thing. As it stands it's drunken ramblings, especially given the context of the conversation being a bachelor party where the three men are drinking. Also, there's the whole point that the Asari just aren't visually distinct. They have the face and body of a Human, the head fringes reminiscent of the Turian, and a skin texture that more closely resembles a Salarian.

 

So, don't take the conversation seriously.

[The Ascendant]

It's just a theory I've explained no need to take it seriously. But I wonder how demons view Qunari mages? Do they prefer humans as they interact with them more frequently? We've seen human and elven abominations but never a Qunari one.

[dixophilia]

It's just a theory I've explained no need to take it seriously. But I wonder how demons view Qunari mages? Do they prefer humans as they interact with them more frequently? We've seen human and elven abominations but never a Qunari one.

I think it's just a matter of most NPCs you meet in any given game tend to be human.

 

But if you want to talk theories, I would imagine it has to do with the majority of Qunari mages being Saarebas. They are always with their Arvaarad. If something even begins to happen, they will surely be executed immediately. As a consequence, Demons may see tempting Qunari mages as a waste of time and energy.

 

Human mages on the other hand? Generally easy to find and in abundance. Just check a Circle tower and viola. A feast of mages to pick from.

[Wulfreiks]

Just found out that the Gamestop closest to me is having a midnight release of DA:I. They're also going to be having a small event with prizes. Going to be making this outfit which I'll probably end up wearing for Halloween too.

Basic picture.

Spoiler

Remember....Keep stoic and follow the Qun.

[RobRam10]

Just found out that the Gamestop closest to me is having a midnight release of DA:I. They're also going to be having a small event with prizes. Going to be making this outfit which I'll probably end up wearing for Halloween too.

Basic picture.

Spoiler

Remember....Keep stoic and follow the Qun.

This is heresy!

[Wulfreiks]

This is heresy!

You're right. Wrong color scheme. It'll be in gray/dark smoke instead of red.

[RobRam10]

You're right. Wrong color scheme. It'll be in gray/dark smoke instead of red.

It still is heresy Qunari heathen!

[SerCambria358]

It still is heresy Qunari heathen!

Hah Tevinter.... did you have your slave type that response out?

[DeusGoddess5010]

Qunari for life!

[sandalisthemaker]

Piles of Qunari corpses will lay at my Inquisitor's feet. 

 

I'm really hoping for an execution scene at Skyhold were the Inquisition captures Qunari spies and I get to decide their fate. Bull will not last long if he refuses to stop feeding the Qun info.

[Daerog]

I think it's just a matter of most NPCs you meet in any given game tend to be human.

 

But if you want to talk theories, I would imagine it has to do with the majority of Qunari mages being Saarebas. They are always with their Arvaarad. If something even begins to happen, they will surely be executed immediately. As a consequence, Demons may see tempting Qunari mages as a waste of time and energy.

 

Human mages on the other hand? Generally easy to find and in abundance. Just check a Circle tower and viola. A feast of mages to pick from.

 

Demons possess corpses and go mad. Many demons don't seem very picky or very knowledgeable on how and who to best possess... even Shades just take a wrong turn and end up in Thedas without a body.

 

I would think only the higher tier demons would be as clever as you theorized, but that is assuming they understand the politics or social structures in Thedas.

 

 

Wait... this is the Qunari thread, what in the Maker's name am I doing here... must have took a wrong turn out of the Fade... *grumble grumble*

[themageguy]

Hmmm. Should i make my qunari a tempest or a mage that summons flame and lightning?

[Drasanil]

The Kossith are the only non-human race I have any interest in playing as. 

 

They don't seem to receive enough love around here.

 

Nonsense, Kossith get plenty of love, you just have to know how to prepare them. Slowly roasted and thinly sliced makes for great sandwiches  

[Wulfreiks]

Nonsense, Kossith get plenty of love, you just have to know how to prepare them. Slowly roasted and thinly sliced makes for great sandwiches

I cannot stay here and remain blind to this disfunction. There is only one solution.

::looks at other supporters in the thread::

Vinek kathas, viddathari.

Ashkost say hissra, bas!

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Nonsense, Kossith get plenty of love, you just have to know how to prepare them. Slowly roasted and thinly sliced makes for great sandwiches

This joke was maybe funny the first 10 times you made it...

[Master Warder Z_]

Hah Tevinter.... did you have your slave type that response out?

 

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I'm so glad he is dead.

[Icy Magebane]

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I'm so glad he is dead.

My canon Hawke supported the Qun, so the Arishok is alive and well in my import.  Unless they killed him when he returned to Par Vollen, I guess...

[Master Warder Z_]

My canon Hawke supported the Qun, so the Arishok is alive and well in my import.  Unless they killed him when he returned to Par Vollen, I guess...

 

Your canon Hawke supported the dogma of the group he was made champion for defeating?

 

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You will have to explain that headcanon one day.

[TheEternalStudent]

Your canon Hawke supported the dogma of the group he was made champion for defeating?

 

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You will have to explain that headcanon one day.

His Hawke was made Champion because the people who decide that (largely nobles) saw the Arishok intending to kill them all, then Hawke shows up and is like, here, take this book and this pirate and leave and he did. He saved them, that's why he was made Champion. Then they built a statue to him/her crushing a Qunari head underfoot, because reasons.

[Master Warder Z_]

His Hawke was made Champion because the people who decide that (largely nobles) saw the Arishok intending to kill them all, then Hawke shows up and is like, here, take this book and this pirate and leave and he did. He saved them, that's why he was made Champion. Then they built a statue to him/her crushing a Qunari head underfoot, because reasons.

 

He also broke the back of a Qunari offensive in Kirkwall.

 

You know fighting to the Keep?

[TheEternalStudent]

He also broke the back of a Qunari offensive in Kirkwall.

 

You know fighting to the Keep?

Yes, Hawke did that, but was made Champion for saving the nobles' sorry hides. You asked why their Hawke was made champion, I answered.

[Icy Magebane]

Your canon Hawke supported the dogma of the group he was made champion for defeating?

 

._.

 

You will have to explain that headcanon one day.

It's not head canon when the events of the story are in harmony with the actions of the player...  We were given many chances to cooperate with and support the Qunari prior to the Arishok's decision to conquer Kirkwall. Depending on Hawke's decisions and dialogue choices, one could logically conclude that he had come to admire the Qunari and perhaps even had the desire to convert, even if that option was not presented to us in the game.  Although our only option at the end of Act 2 was to oppose the Qunari, allowing the Arishok to leave on his terms can be used to demonstrate that Hawke agreed with him on some level... obviously this could have been done for many reasons, but I don't see how this interpretation is disingenuous.  I certainly wouldn't go so far as to call it "head canon" when there is so much support elsewhere in the plot...

 

Also, this:

His Hawke was made Champion because the people who decide that (largely nobles) saw the Arishok intending to kill them all, then Hawke shows up and is like, here, take this book and this pirate and leave and he did. He saved them, that's why he was made Champion. Then they built a statue to him/her crushing a Qunari head underfoot, because reasons.

[Master Warder Z_]

It's not head canon when the events of the story are in harmony with the actions of the player

 

Eh i'd argue differently given that Hawke as said once before became Champion by removing the Qunari threat; you claim the Arishok was leaving on his own terms?

 

Considering he was effective taking over the city state, i'd say leaving wasn't within his terms period but we can come back to that.

 

So he takes the book and pirate back to Par Vollen, does that make up for the mockery his efforts have done the Qunari? He potentially kicks off a war with the Free Marches and Chantry, He loses hundreds of personal over the course of the battle and the preceding years all to reclaim a book that his own incompetence lost him originally.

 

I've been of the mind that Kirkwall was to be as much a repayment for his prior failure as the tome it self considering the Qunari lost it once before due to Orlais.

 

But anyway i'd say allowing the Arishok to walk away isn't indicative of Qunari support, it could be seen as many differing things from the all too popular apathy applied to Hawke to simple revenge against Isabella for abandoning them originally.

[Icy Magebane]

Eh i'd argue differently given that Hawke as said once before became Champion by removing the Qunari threat; you claim the Arishok was leaving on his own terms?

 

Considering he was effective taking over the city state, i'd say leaving wasn't within his terms period but we can come back to that.

 

So he takes the book and pirate back to Par Vollen, does that make up for the mockery his efforts have done the Qunari? He potentially kicks off a war with the Free Marches and Chantry, He loses hundreds of personal over the course of the battle and the preceding years all to reclaim a book that his own incompetence lost him originally.

 

I've been of the mind that Kirkwall was to be as much a repayment for his prior failure as the tome it self considering the Qunari lost it once before due to Orlais.

 

But anyway i'd say allowing the Arishok to walk away isn't indicative of Qunari support, it could be seen as many differing things from the all too popular apathy applied to Hawke to simple revenge against Isabella for abandoning them originally.

It's not just cooperating with the Arishok... it's handing Ketojan over to Arvaraad, not associating with mages more than needed, impartially enforcing the law throughout Kirkwall, maintaining a respectful tone with the Arishok and giving him frequent reports on Qunari-related issues, opposing Varnell, not hiding the abuse by Varnell's supporters... etc...

 

There is a pattern of behavior that can be established which coincides with the basic principles of the Qun: the strict adherence to order and the chain of command.  If Hawke follows these principles as best he can within the culture and laws of of the human lands (specifically Kirkwall), then he is on the path to the Qun.  His direct dealings with the Arishock can reinforce this, culminating in his agreement to accept the Arishok's terms for ending his aggressive actions in Kirkwall. 

 

Obviously this is not the only explanation for why Hawke would hand over Isabela and the Tome, but it is a valid one... the possibility of Hawke being sympathetic to the Qun is supported by the plot, and is not confined to the realm of head canon and fanfic.

 

Now, whether or not the Arishok is going to face punishment when he gets home, I have no idea... I won't argue that the entire situation in Kirkwall was a debacle and he will probably be executed for the way things went down... however, none of that has any bearing on Hawke's views on the Qun, the Qunari, or the Arishok himself.