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[Solomon_Grundy]

I can't wait to make my Qunari Mage, and I will have the biggest most magnificent horns in all the land!

[Master Warder Z_]

I can't wait for the eventual invasion of Par Vollen.

 

Not like back during the prior Qunari wars, no those were just raiders pillaging shoreline.

 

I want an honest to goodness Operation: Downfall.

[TheJediSaint]

I can't wait for the eventual invasion of Par Vollen.

 

Not like back during the prior Qunari wars, no those were just raiders pillaging shoreline.

 

I want an honest to goodness Operation: Downfall.

It strikes me as more likely it's going to be the other way around.  Hopefully that would include the final eradication of the Tevinter Imperium.   Those guys suck.

[Master Warder Z_]

It strikes me as more likely it's going to be the other way around.

 

Eh, I don't know.

 

I mean how do you counteract a second invasion by Qunari?

 

Do you honestly think another treaty is going to satisfy Thedas once they finally push the Qunari back into the sea again?

 

That society is going to burn; Mark my words.

 

Burn like London during the Millennium assault in Hellsing

[Hellion Rex]

It strikes me as more likely it's going to be the other way around.  Hopefully that would include the final eradication of the Tevinter Imperium.   Those guys suck.

I hope the Qunari are smart enough to bring some templar like warriors, cause if Imperium truly begins to fall, the magisters are gonna go balls to the wall with blood magic and all manner of arcane stuff. I think Tevinter will be far more dangerous when the Qunari try to corner them.

[TheJediSaint]

Eh, I don't know.

 

I mean how do you counteract a second invasion by Qunari?

 

Do you honestly think another treaty is going to satisfy Thedas once they finally push the Qunari back into the sea again?

 

That society is going to burn; Mark my words.

The problem with any "Operation Downfall" is that you need a world beating navy.  Near as I can tell, it's the Qunari that have a world-beating navy, by virtue of the fact that their ship have guns.

[Hellion Rex]

The problem with any "Operation Downfall" is that you need a world beating navy.  Near as I can tell, it's the Qunari that have a world-beating navy, by virtue of the fact that their ship have guns.

Not just guns, BIG guns.

[Master Warder Z_]

I hope the Qunari are smart enough to bring some templar like warriors, cause if Imperium truly begins to fall, the magisters are gonna go balls to the wall with blood magic and all manner of arcane stuff. I think Tevinter will be far more dangerous when the Qunari try to corner them.

 

I can picture the Tevinter's literally committing mass suicide rather then surrendering.

 

Their entire civilization just going up in a flash as soon as the Capital begins to fall, i can picture the most elegant and complex rune inscribing and spellwork ever compiled just activating across the city and burning it to cinders.

 

The Imperium would die on it's own terms.

 

Not those of the Qunari.

[Master Warder Z_]

The problem with any "Operation Downfall" is that you need a world beating navy.  Near as I can tell, it's the Qunari that have a world-beating navy, by virtue of the fact that their ship have guns.

 

The problem with this theory is that the Qunari have been defeated in naval combat before by Thedosian ships.

 

In fact the largest naval battle in history was fought between Thedas and the Qunari and it was a Pyrrhic thedosian victory.

[TheJediSaint]

The Imperium would die on it's own terms.

Dying being the important part.

[Hibernating]

Eh, I don't know.

 

I mean how do you counteract a second invasion by Qunari?

 

Do you honestly think another treaty is going to satisfy Thedas once they finally push the Qunari back into the sea again?

 

That society is going to burn; Mark my words.

 

Burn like London during the Millennium assault in Hellsing

Nah, Thedas has been wrecked by a blight, civil war, a mage rebellion and a breach all while the Qun and Par Vollen prepare for another war, if you read whats going on with Tevinter there is no offensive, they are simply holding what they have. I think they will wait till the breach is closed, as it effects them too (but I doubt much aid will be sent), then they will absolutely obliterate tevinter. 

The combined armies during previous Exalted Marches barely held them back, now all the Chantry nations are weak. They are going to steamroll the entire continent.

[Hellion Rex]

I can picture the Tevinter's literally committing mass suicide rather then surrendering.

 

Their entire civilization just going up in a flash as soon as the Capital begins to fall, i can picture the most elegant and complex rune inscribing and spellwork ever compiled just activating across the city and burning it to cinders.

 

The Imperium would die on it's own terms.

 

Not those of the Qunari.

I think at the very least, that if they were to perform such a ritual, they'd do their damnedest to take out as many of the Qunari as they can. When they go down, I think there's gonna be an explosion of magic the likes of which Thedas hasn't seen in millennia. 

[TheJediSaint]

The problem with this theory is that the Qunari have been defeated in naval combat before by Thedosian ships.

 

In fact the largest naval battle in history was fought between Thedas and the Qunari and it was a Pyrrhic thedosian victory.

My point stands that an amphibious invasion requires total naval superiority.  I don't see Thedosian navies doing that when the only way the can compete with the Qunari is to have mages embarked on their vessels.  Cannons are more replaceable than trained battlemages.

[Master Warder Z_]

The combined armies during previous Exalted Marches barely held them back, now all the Chantry nations are weak. They are going to steamroll the entire continent.

 

No the combined armies of the exalted march royally kicked their asses and drove them off the continent.

 

Seriously read the lore, they were losing ground before the exalted marches but once Thedas rallied, it kicked the Qunari back into the sea, it was a slow process but it happened and it will happen again.

 

The Qunari are simply too few, that was their main problem in the last conflict, technology can compensate to a degree but...not to the ridiculous degree Thedas outnumbers the Qunari by.

[Hellion Rex]

My point stands that an amphibious invasion requires total naval superiority.  I don't see Thedosian navies doing that when the only way the can compete is to have mage on board.  Cannons are more replaceable than trained battlemages.

Isn't the Felicisima Armada our biggest naval fleet?

[leaguer of one]

Eh, I don't know.

 

I mean how do you counteract a second invasion by Qunari?

 

Do you honestly think another treaty is going to satisfy Thedas once they finally push the Qunari back into the sea again?

 

That society is going to burn; Mark my words.

 

Burn like London during the Millennium assault in Hellsing

May it they stop treating the mages and elves like trash and make stronger connections with the dwarves then they have. And their knowledge and skill they can push back the qunari.

[leaguer of one]

No the combined armies of the exalted march royally kicked their asses and drove them off the continent.

 

Seriously read the lore, they were losing ground before the exalted marches but once Thedas rallied, it kicked the Qunari back into the sea, it was a slow process but it happened and it will happen again.

 

The Qunari are simply too few, that was their main problem in the last conflict, technology can compensate to a degree but...not to the ridiculous degree Thedas outnumbers the Qunari by.

No it was just pyrrhic. The qunari stopped only because they wanted to better plan their invasion.

[leaguer of one]

The problem with this theory is that the Qunari have been defeated in naval combat before by Thedosian ships.

 

In fact the largest naval battle in history was fought between Thedas and the Qunari and it was a Pyrrhic thedosian victory.

Link please.

[Hibernating]

No the combined armies of the exalted march royally kicked their asses and drove them off the continent.

 

Seriously read the lore, they were losing ground before the exalted marches but once Thedas rallied, it kicked the Qunari back into the sea, it was a slow process but it happened and it will happen again.

 

The Qunari are simply too few, that was their main problem in the last conflict, technology can compensate to a degree but...not to the ridiculous degree Thedas outnumbers the Qunari by.

 Your wrong master Warder, read this codex http://dragonage.wik...omerryn_Accords

They didnt even retreat because they were defeated, they retreated because the Rivani were taking too many losses (not even their race). It took them 100 years and almost collapsed every nation in Thedas and "without even chipping the Qunari occupying force, the giants finally withdrew."

Your understanding of the history is off.

[leaguer of one]

I hope the Qunari are smart enough to bring some templar like warriors, cause if Imperium truly begins to fall, the magisters are gonna go balls to the wall with blood magic and all manner of arcane stuff. I think Tevinter will be far more dangerous when the Qunari try to corner them.

Look at Talis' move set. They have that covered.

[Hibernating]

Link please.

 

http://dragonage.wik..._the_Waking_Sea

Basically they won 1 sea battle to take a minor island.

[Master Warder Z_]

My point stands that an amphibious invasion requires total naval superiority.  I don't see Thedosian navies doing that when the only way the can compete with the Qunari is to have mages embarked on their vessels.  Cannons are more replaceable than trained battlemages.

 

I think that naval superiority can be established; The Qunari naval forces either engaged elsewhere or destroyed before the invasion launches.

 

Either way they wouldn't be much of an issue; Because i do believe Thedas can lose a thousand ships and more or less bounce back from it a while later, the Qunari? Between the vessels, materials and personal? I think that would be a game changer for them, seriously by the point i was thinking this invasion would be launched would be near directly after the Qunari defeat in Thedas.

 

Who is to say what state their military will be after they have been shoved off of Thedas again.

[leaguer of one]

The problem with this theory is that the Qunari have been defeated in naval combat before by Thedosian ships.

 

In fact the largest naval battle in history was fought between Thedas and the Qunari and it was a Pyrrhic thedosian victory.

Link please.

[leaguer of one]

I think that naval superiority can be established; The Qunari naval forces either engaged elsewhere or destroyed before the invasion launches.

 

Either way they wouldn't be much of an issue; Because i do believe Thedas can lose a thousand ships and more or less bounce back from it a while later, the Qunari? Between the vessels, materials and personal? I think that would be a game changer for them, seriously by the point i was thinking this invasion would be launched would be near directly after the Qunari defeat in Thedas.

 

Who is to say what state their military will be after they have been shoved off of Thedas again.

You're delusional. The last war nearly bankrupt all the countries in southern thedus. Southern thedues is an even worse state now. All the qunari have been doing is preparing.

[Master Warder Z_]

 Your wrong master Warder, read this codex http://dragonage.wik...omerryn_Accords

They didnt even retreat because they were defeated, they retreated because the Rivani were taking too many losses (not even their race). It took them 100 years and almost collapsed every nation in Thedas and "without even chipping the Qunari occupying force, the giants finally withdrew."

Your understanding of the history is off.

 

And you are using that single codex and taking it over WOT, and all the other source material?

 

Seriously Wiki Qunari wars and then proceed to actually read the WOT passage on it.

 

Basically it goes something like this: They invade, they met little resistance, their invasion of Tevinter is going nicely and then suddenly the armies of Thedas rally, they are shoved back, they invade the free marches and occupy Kirkwall, Orlais kicks them out of it.

 

They are removed from Antiva making Rivain there only nation in Thedas with any foothold on it, And then they are pushed back to their last stronghold on that, and then yes the killing the native population occurs and some cite that as the reason why they left.

 

But really, seriously?

 

You are going to say to me with a straight face, their final stronghold in Thedas PERIOD, is under siege, every other invasion they have attempted is dead in the water or defeated, the invasion of the imperium is going horribly because of mass slave revolts which give the Magisters time to rally their armies and it is them killing the native population that prompts retreat?

 

Right, No its them losing the war that prompts retreat.

 

We will see who's history is faulty.