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[The Ascendant]

Sure but the nation and dynasty he founded are a joke.
 
I mean its like crediting the first "free" ruler of Kirkwall as keeping the city alive after the Imperium fell.
 
Sure it happened but does it really matter?

Fair enough I suppose. So who would you suggest instead?

[Lulupab]

Sure but the nation and dynasty he founded are a joke.

I mean its like crediting the first "free" ruler of Kirkwall as keeping the city alive after the Imperium fell.

Sure it happened but does it really matter?

He united Barbarians under his rule in opposed to utter conquest. The land is rightfully their own and each leader of old tribes that has been united into a single nation is now a Bann. Its pretty impressive for Thedas.

[sunnydxmen]

AT LEAST THE HUMANS THIS TIME ARE NOT FROM FERELDAN THANK GOD.

[Master Warder Z_]

The point is elves have been in power for longer 

 

And their stewardship of Tamerial seemed to end at about the same time as the arrival of Humanity how about that.

 

Too late to the join the bandwagon of mortals becoming gods. 

 

 

He's the only mortal period who became a divine ._.

 

 

all which are part of the empire and it has bowed down before the Elves. Lgeally its forbidden but its not stopping anyone from doing it in their basement.

 

The Empire is a decaying husk, but bowed down? Even if i wouldn't go that far although its denial of Talos was a bad thing to do, that's an notion that's been made abundantly clear, its why there is a proper course for the civil war in Skyrim to take after all.

[The Ascendant]

Jeshavis is known as the mother of Orlais and did help create its founding so she is probably important.
 
Also created the grand game.
 
Just thinking about this. but what is important? is Corypheus important because he was one of the first humans to step into the Black city? thats pretty important. yes bad. but no elf has ever done that.

Hmm. Corypheus and his buddies achieved an amazing feat, a pity it back fired.
Jeshavis as the founder of both Orlais and the Game are equally important. Her many descendants rival that of Queen Victoria. Good choices.

[Master Warder Z_]

Fair enough I suppose. So who would you suggest instead?

 

In place of Calenhad? Murdock.

[Lulupab]

And their stewardship of Tamerial seemed to end at about the same time as the arrival of Humanity how about that.

VERY FALSE. Humans were slaves of elves for centuries. The gods pitied them and bestowed favor.

He's the only mortal period who became a divine ._.

The nine divines are called Aedra which translated into Aldmeris means "Our ancestors". Elves could become dragons in the past, guess what Auri-El or Akarosh is, a dragon. Elves were demigods at first, half god half mortal. So in a way no mortals became gods but elves were gods born from gods who became mortal in time.

The Empire is a decaying husk, but bowed down? Even if i wouldn't go that far although its denial of Talos was a bad thing to do, that's an notion that's been made abundantly clear, its why there is a proper course for the civil war in Skyrim to take after all.

The great white tower was destroyed in siege of Imperial city and the empire negotiated terms of surrender.

[Kieran G.]

Hmm. Corypheus and his buddies achieved an amazing feat, a pity it back fired.
Jeshavis as the founder of both Orlais and the Game are equally important. Her many descendants rival that of Queen Victoria. Good choices.

Or what of Justinia I she founded the chantry. began the divine age. welcomed the Aderfalls, and Grey warden as Andrastians. Created the Circles the Templars, The seekers, and ended one of the bloodiest times caused by man. I'm referring to the Inquisition.

[Br3admax]

Mage. Always the mage.

Yeah, I'm not sure why it's a question. 

[Master Warder Z_]

VERY FALSE. Humans were slaves of elves for centuries. The gods pitied them and bestowed favor.

 

Only in Cyrodil and those were early Nedics not Nords.

 

Alessia brought that crashing down with Akatsoh's blessing, but the snows elves just died because they pissed off the nords by being dicks.

 

 

The nine divines are called Aedra which translated into Aldmeris means "Our ancestors". Elves could become dragons in the past, guess what Auri-El or Akarosh is, a dragon. Elves were demigods at first, half god half mortal. So in a way no mortals became gods but elves were gods born from gods who became mortal in time.

 

If you buy into their self supporting mythos anyway.

 

 

The great white tower was destroyed in siege of Imperial city and the empire negotiated terms of surrender.

 

Nope.

 

It was sacked, it was obviously still standing given that they hung the elven general for thirty days from it after the city was liberated.

 

And it was the terms of peace, not surrender, considering that the elves were pushing it to by that point, what with the Redguards obliterating them in Hammerfell.

[Br3admax]

VERY FALSE. Humans were slaves of elves for centuries. The gods pitied them and bestowed favor.

>Comparing Nedes to a true born Atmoran

>These same Nedes massacred the rest of the elves in Tamriel when their cousins returned. 

 

 

The nine divines are called Aedra which translated into Aldmeris means "Our ancestors". Elves could become dragons in the past, guess what Auri-El or Akarosh is, a dragon. Elves were demigods at first, half god half mortal. So in a way no mortals became gods but elves were gods born from gods who became mortal in time.

 I'm not going to dignify this with a response, just know it's all wrong. Auriel wasn't an "elf." He was an Et'ada who for all his whit couldn't stand up to the God of Man and had to defeat him through Lorkhan wanting to die. 

The great white tower was destroyed in siege of Imperial city and the empire negotiated terms of surrender.

Lol, no. Both sides lost their armies, so the Thalmor brought back the same terms they set out from before, nobody surrendered during the Great War. 

 

 

It's like you just made up half of the things in this post. I say like half instead of all because at least most of the names are spelled right. 

[Master Warder Z_]

It's like you just made up half of the things in this post.

 

<.< 

 

*was thinking the exact same thing*

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Not sure why we're talking about The Elder Scrolls, but meh.

 

I like Argonians tbh.

[Master Warder Z_]

Not sure why we're talking about The Elder Scrolls, but meh.

 

I like Argonians tbh.

 

The Hist is awesome

[Lulupab]

Only in Cyrodil and those were early Nedics not Nords.

Alessia brought that crashing down with Akatsoh's blessing, but the snows elves just died because they pissed off the nords by being dicks.




If you buy into their self supporting mythos anyway.




Nope.

It was sacked, it was obviously still standing given that they hung the elven general for thirty days from it after the city was liberated.

And it was the terms of peace, not surrender, considering that the elves were pushing it to by that point, what with the Redguards obliterating them in Hammerfell.

There is no "self supporting myth" in TES. There is only lore. You can read about it in human libraries of imperial city, even the men believe it. Actually that is why I like TES. There is almost no plotholes, there is only the mystery of where did the dwarves go?

Plus Ayields are not Altmer, they were half Daedra and therefore a complete different race. But still elves nonetheless. The High Elves confidently consider themselves, with some justice, as the most civilized culture of Tamriel; the common tongue of the Empire, Tamrielic, is based on Altmer speech and writing, and most of the Empire's arts, crafts, and sciences are derived from High Elven traditions.

I'm just saying that the developers (at least Douglas Goodall) obviously see some justification, or rather, intended there to be some justification, in that the Mer held the first civilisation of Tamriel and that the men races either invaded from elsewhere or rose up to usurp power from the Mer. What I mean is, I don't think the game was constructed for the Altmer to be pretentious snobs without cause, that role falls to the Imga.

In current world state the Thalmor aka Altmer, Bosmer and Khajit are the winning side. (its implied Dark elves are joining too)

[The Baconer]

There is almost no plotholes, there is only the mystery of where did the dwarves go?

 

Zero-summed, skin of the Numidium etc.

[Lulupab]

>Comparing Nedes to a true born Atmoran
>These same Nedes massacred the rest of the elves in Tamriel when their cousins returned.

I'm not going to dignify this with a response, just know it's all wrong. Auriel wasn't an "elf." He was an Et'ada who for all his whit couldn't stand up to the God of Man and had to defeat him through Lorkhan wanting to die.

Lol, no. Both sides lost their armies, so the Thalmor brought back the same terms they set out from before, nobody surrendered during the Great War.


It's like you just made up half of the things in this post. I say like half instead of all because at least most of the names are spelled right.

Did I say he was an elf? Elves are the first, so in other words whatever Auriel is, Elves were that too. Shapeshifting gods from chaos era. When all aspects of a treaty in one party's favor that's pretty much surrender.

[Br3admax]

Lulz, did you just call the Heartland High Elves half Daedra? I think we're done here. Quick tip, Google is a thing, and before you share your "knowledge" on the internet, it might be beneficial to use Google first. 

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

The Hist is awesome

 

I respect a people who just sit their listening to their talking trees. 

 

And kill Dunmer sometimes. 

[Master Warder Z_]

(its implied Dark elves are joining too)

 

No it isn't considering they ****Ing invaded them during the war too.

 

Well their lizard lackeys but everybody and their brother who knows foots the bill the for them too.

[Br3admax]

Did I say he was an elf? Elves are the first, so in other world whatever Auriel is, Elves were that too. Shapeshifting gods from chaos era. When all aspects of a treaty in one party's favor that's pretty much surrender.

Elves and humans came from the same beings and appeared at the same time. You really have no idea what you're talking about. 

[Master Warder Z_]

Lulz, did you just call the Heartland High Elves half Daedra?

 

I think Lulu was inferring that due to one sorcerer of the Aylieds placing his soul into a plane oblivion they are supposedly "half daedra"

[Br3admax]

Yes, Umaril was half Daedra, not his entire race.  Guess they didn't know Aurons aren't Ayleids. They're just Daedra. 

[Lulupab]

Elves and humans came from the same beings and appeared at the same time. You really have no idea what you're talking about.

That doesn't mean they source of creation is the same. Generally speaking, the mer are be direct descendants of the Aedra, having been tricked by Lorkhan into giving up their immortality to create the world. And they have proof because men are just men whereas elves live several thousand years, have closer relation to Aedra and are better with magic.

They didn't come from same beings, get your facts straight cause that is a joke.

[Lulupab]

Yes, Umaril was half Daedra, not his entire race.  Guess they didn't know Aurons aren't Ayleids. They're just Daedra.

I remember reading Umaril made most of his men do it to gain more power. Only the civilians were "normal".