See, that's why I prefer their sexualities be ambiguous
I like to think she prefers women
I agree with keeping their sexualities ambiguous, or at least their past relationships ambiguous so there is no "they prefer this" discussions.
That also gets rid of any promiscuous tropes since you don't know how many people they've been with. You could be their first, you could be their hundredth. It's up to the player.
I agree with keeping their sexualities ambiguous, or at least their past relationships ambiguous so there is no "they prefer this" discussions.
That also gets rid of any promiscuous tropes since you don't know how many people they've been with. You could be their first, you could be their hundredth. It's up to the player.
Yeah, I mean... I would be soooo much more down with Iron Bull if it weren't for that stupid line, "He'll hop into bed with anyone." Ugh.
And in other cases she mentions how women are good in many things, plus the way she acts with male and female Hawke. Having many "encounters" with men =/= preference. I'd think she goes with them for the fricking only (and that for her they're "easy", probably). She could very well prefer women for more "serious" things.
In fact, there's no proof which gender she prefers. It's all in your headcanon.
yeah, I'm inclined to go with this cos it's closest to how I headcanon-ed her myself. I just didn't catch on the overly male preference from her so I was a little surprised so many people are mentioning it now. I like her as having equal preference or a female preference, so maybe I just refused to see it if it was there.
I thought she was talking about Anders himself in that banter? the sexual electricity trick or something
I'm pretty sure he also mentions that she liked the "girl with the griffon tattoo."
She really prefers men, if unromanced she mentions having been sexual with women around twice & thats only if Bethany is alive.
I disagree. In fact, comparing her romances between male and female Hawke, and her relationships with the other NPCS I get the sense she connects emotionally much easier with women.
yeah, I'm inclined to go with this cos it's closest to how I headcanon-ed her myself. I just didn't catch on the overly male preference from her so I was a little surprised so many people are mentioning it now. I like her as having equal preference or a female preference, so maybe I just refused to see it if it was there.
I always romance Izzy and trust me when i say this: she clearly likes women so much to the point she could prefer them. I even heard with a dudehawke she's mostly cautious.
Or it could be my bias, we just don't know.
Izzy herself didn't state who prefers so the argument is moot. You can headcanon her preference freely but don't state it as a fact (it's not directed to you, just in general).
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Honestly not trying to generalize, stereotype, or undermine people who don't fit the norm, but I have noticed that female players tend to gush about the romances more than male players. Not saying this is universal, not saying all women or men do this, etc. It's just, when you get into forums, threads, reviews, conventions, feedback for the game, etc. Women players tend to put more stalk in the romantic content (explore it more, comment on it more, ask for more for the future, maybe become more emotionally invested, etc.) whereas men tend to be more likely to talk about it in passing, as an afterthought, or skip it entirely.
Maybe this could be part of why female players get more romance options this game...? BioWare might have figured, "F***k it! Female gamers tend to play the romantic content more, so let's use our romantic content budget to include more romances for female characters." I don't know what BioWare's thinking and so can't speak for them, but that's my guess.
(And again, it's just a guess! I don't want to see female gamers replying to this post with: "But I never play the romances!" or guys going "But I love the romances too!" Or "Not all gals play them/Not all guys skip them." I'm just commenting based on what I've observed, and am using that to make my guess as to why BioWare might have made the decisions they did this game.)
I don't see how Isabella prefers women more, since she will hoock up with Fenris of all people if they're both not romanced by PC.
She may talk about them a lot, but for me it matters what she actually does.
I don't see how Isabella prefers women more, since she will hoock up with Fenris of all people if they're both not romanced by PC.
That was more of a one night stand
I always romance Izzy and trust me when i say this: she clearly likes women so much to the point she could prefer them. I even heard with a dudehawke she's mostly cautious.
Or it could be my bias, we just don't know.
Izzy herself didn't state who prefers so the argument is moot. You can headcanon her preference freely but don't state it as a fact (it's not directed to you, just in general).
Agree with this. I always romance her with a female but I've watched male romance playthroughs with her on Youtube and I feel she is much more emotional and serious about her relationship with a female Hawke. One thing I prefer about her f/f romance is that she doesn't like others flirting with Hawke, while in a m/f romance she just laughs it off when Hawke flirts with others.
That was more of a one night stand
Yeah, right, that's why she asks him to do it again. 
I don't see how Isabella prefers women more, since she will hoock up with Fenris of all people if they're both not romanced by PC.
She may talk about them a lot, but for me it matters what she actually does.
Ofc you'd mention Fenris, considering how by default everyone, when unromanced, go for the opposite gender. 
It doesn't count, really. Plus like Ares said, it was one night stand. She hooks up with many ladies in the Blooming Rose as well.
So?
I always romance Izzy and trust me when i say this: she clearly likes women so much to the point she could prefer them. I even heard with a dudehawke she's mostly cautious.
Or it could be my bias, we just don't know.
Izzy herself didn't state who prefers so the argument is moot. You can headcanon her preference freely but don't state it as a fact (it's not directed to you, just in general).
Yeah it's true like you said more doesn't mean a preference. I can understand the benefits of ambiguity but I'd prefer a more diverse preferences shown among bi characters. I don't like that typically they seem to favor opp gender in BW games. I like her with a male Hawke but I don't like Isabella preferring men.
It doesn't count, really.
Yes, because facts hurt.
It doesnt help that Bioware do that to gay characters, but you can't wish it away.
And it wasn't one-night stand, she asked him to do it again. It was all only about sex, that I can agree with. But it wasn't once.
Yes, because facts hurt.
It doesnt help that Bioware do that to gay characters, but you can't wish it away.
And she hooks up with whores in BR, so that means nothing. She didn't go with Fenris for relationship. 
I don't understand how Isabela going for Fenris if unromanced shows any kind of preference. She just goes for him, it doesn't mean she goes for him because he's a man. Her only female option would be Merrill, whom she clearly sees as a little sister.
Ah, hello, it's Isabella.
She only goes for realtionship with Hawke. And only because he/she is PC.
She just goes for him, it doesn't mean she goes for him because he's a man. Her only female option would be Merrill, whom she clearly treats like a little sister.
Her "only" female option is a whole Kirkwall.
I agree with keeping their sexualities ambiguous, or at least their past relationships ambiguous so there is no "they prefer this" discussions.
That also gets rid of any promiscuous tropes since you don't know how many people they've been with. You could be their first, you could be their hundredth. It's up to the player.
Meh. How about we introduce a character creator for the companions also while we are at it? Seems pretty strange to me to want companions to fit every desire of the players....
I'm pretty sure he also mentions that she liked the "girl with the griffon tattoo."
I disagree. In fact, comparing her romances between male and female Hawke, and her relationships with the other NPCS I get the sense she connects emotionally much easier with women.
She appears to be more "cautious" with a male Hawke, like she doesn't want him to feel too cocky about himself. It doesn't diminish the romance in anyway. (I prefer the FHawke version myself)
Her only female option to allow party banter. She could be with females in kirkwall, we can't hear that in party banter so Fenris has that advantage yes.
Yes and with Fenris it's all about sex. *tries not to choke on own vomit while discussing her absolute worst NOTP* I do feel like her connection with Hawke was an emotional one (my Hawke being female), and also keep in mind that Fenris' connection with Hawke is emotional, too, hence why he runs away.
So Isabela x Fenris is just about physical needs. It's like going to a brothel without having to pay.
Based on her relationships with both Hawkes and all the NPCS, I think the difference is that she primarily associates men (in general) with wanting causal sex and with women (in general) she's much more at ease forming an emotional bond as well because she doesn't always associate them primarily with hookups. In a sense the fact that she seems to more naturally form platonic relationships with women carries over into her sexual relationships with them.
I got the sense it was sort of a holdover from her harsh upbringing, where women were often victims of men. It's why with Varric, Anders, Fenris and Carver she has fun either flirting with or objectifying them (even if she doesn't actually sleep with Varric or Carver) but with Bethany and Merrill she has kind of protective sisterly instincts. Aveline is an obvious exception because she has a very different personality.
Even when she first meets Hawke, Male Hawke gets a joke flirt, and female Hawke gets advice on how to guard herself against men. Not that she can't form emotional bonds with men or want women for causal sex of course, but in Hawke's case, it seems like her natural tendencies affect the course of the romance slightly.
Ah, hello, it's Isabella.
She only goes for realtionship with Hawke. And only because he/she is PC.
And that's the point of the discussion. She has no preference because she didn't state any. The rest is pure headcanon.
Her hooking up with Fenris implies nothing, i don't even know why did you mention it at first place.
Meh. How about we introduce a character creator for the companions also while we are at it? Seems pretty strange to me to want companions to fit every desire of the players....
Why does it seem strange to please as many people as possible? It's called good business sense.
Isabela/Fenris is clearly purely physical. Her being with him shows about her preference just as much as her talking about how she preferred the female warden with griffon tattoos.
Yes, because facts hurt.
It doesnt help that Bioware do that to gay characters, but you can't wish it away.
And it wasn't one-night stand, she asked him to do it again. It was all only about sex, that I can agree with. But it wasn't once.
Fact she hooks up with Fenris is kinda separate issue that BW had in DA2. Every bi companion went for the opp sex (besides Anders, who IMO always fell for Hawke to some degree regardless of romance) so that was more BW not showing a ss companion relationship that a clear indication of her preference in her case specifically. I'm more likely to argue it showed Fenris might prefer women than Isabella prefers men. Just my opinion and interpretation, feel free to disagree.
Her only female option to allow party banter. She could be with females in kirkwall, we can't hear that in party banter so Fenris has that advantage yes.
We could've seen her talking with anyone in the Hanged man. Flirting with anyone, having banter about someone - doesn't matter.
But the devs prefered to pair her with Fenris, still.
I can't just dismiss the fact that all companions if not romanced will engage in a hetero activity.
But then again, I don't think it's right, that wasn't the point. I just admit it's canon while her "prefering women over men" is more of a headcanon. She likes both, it's up to players to wonder though.
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