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[laststarfighter]

I just read through this post on gamefaqs and the OP brought out some good points...I hope they are not as bad as they read.

****WARNING**** Slight ME SPOILERS and to cover my behind *****WARNING****** slight ME2 Gameplay Spoilers

all in all it is a really good read about gameplay.
http://www.gamefaqs....&topic=53186748

cheers

[Sammythedestroyer]

Too each their own. I dont really listen to the critique of others,I'm just really pumped about this game.

[dirtypaulie]

Only thing disappointing about ME2 is it isn't being officially released until tuesday

[laststarfighter]

Sammythedestroyer wrote...

Too each their own. I dont really listen to the critique of others,I'm just really pumped about this game.

true, but its the first thing I've read other than the Official reviews. I'm scared now it has been too dumbed down to a shooter

[EJon]

It's equally a shooter as it is an rpg. I've played it, i would know.

[xTHEx xFALLENx]

i doubt its going to be disappointing.

[EJon]

Believe me, it isn't. I've played it and it really is engaging. Its like playing rainbow 6/GoW/Mass Effect 1 but in a sequel of ME. Its pretty cool how they blended the shooter aspects with the rpg aspects and its nothing disappointing.

[Darth_Trethon]

The only things that truly matter are the depth of the story and immersion. I don't need to micromanage inventory to be immersed, in fact the less of that the better because I don't have to shift my focus from the ongoing story. ME2 does indeed seem to be significantly longer than ME1 when all is said and done in terms of exploration(for story's sake and quests and such) and we are getting a drivable vehicle as free DLC that is named the "Hammerhead".

[Zack Ross]

People need something to complain about. This is one of the truths of life. Change is constant, its the one violent force in life, some people embrace it, some people fight it tooth and nail. Also you cannot please everyone, and I would hope Bioware doesn't even bother trying. If I want a truly hardcore RPG I have Demon's Souls. All the RPG I'll ever need. Now lets bring on the Mass Effect 2 this Tuesday please.

[KingDavid007]

You kidding me? Is it me or does the guy that wrote the article not know that ME2 is a RPG/shooter? He crys about non-RPG elements in the game. QUIT ****IN ME2 owns.

[xellosDBS]

The only thing that (most) people most likely will find disappointing is that this is the middle story, so their gonna be craving more!

[Booster008]

the game is definitely not disappointing.

[LyonVanguard]

LISTEN.
Anything made by Bioware is going to be good. Anyone that says otherwise does not know what they are talking about.

Bioware has not dissapointed since KOTOR and I doubt they are going to now

Stop with all this BS and play the damn game. Criticize the game then.

[KingDavid007]

RPG is just too nerdy and too intricate. What bioware did was they made ME2 simple so that the masses of console players can appreciate ME2.(most console owners play shooters.) By simple I mean, they toned down the RPG elements in ME2, and boastered the shooting/gameplay elements of ME2. I think ME2 has the best of both worlds.(RPG and shooters)

[Jaysonie]

If your read some of there posts, you'll find that there PC Elitist. They seem to blame the supposed "Dumbing Down" on attracting more console gamers. Besides, a majority of them have pirated the game so they have no right to complain. They just want to complain.

[Yojimboo]

The only disappointing thing is that the storyline without a ME1 (new ME2 start) save, is that of a pure Renegade it seems.



You can't choose anything at the beginning and i was pretty sure they mentioned you would be able to answer questions, that would influence your game but it's not the case.

[The Black Ghost]

The most scary thing for me is that he compared this game's changes to that of FEAR 2 from the original. FEAR is one of my favorite games, but FEAR 2 was a major failure. The only saving grace now is that FEAR 2 recevied generally mediocre reveiws, and this game has gotten very high scores.

I dont care about stats and stuff, but I am unhappy when he says there are less options for dialogue, which I hope is not entirely true. Also the "mission complete " thing does sound REALLY corny.
They really did dumb down a lot though, from this post. Hopefully there is most customizability that this player just has yet to see.

[Darth_Shizz]

KingDavid007 wrote...

RPG is just too nerdy and too intricate. What bioware did was they made ME2 simple so that the masses of console players can appreciate ME2.(most console owners play shooters.) By simple I mean, they toned down the RPG elements in ME2, and boastered the shooting/gameplay elements of ME2. I think ME2 has the best of both worlds.(RPG and shooters)

I'd put on some oven mitts...you're gonna get flamed man ;p Having said that, I'm pretty sure that wasn't BWs intention here. Their fans enjoy intricate combat mechanics and character progression, so going completely the other direction because they feel it's too "nerdy" would be a tad strange. What DID have a huge bearing however, were some elements that just didn't work first time around in Mass Effect, due to the type of game it was trying to be.

 @OP- I wouldn't pay too much attention to the alleged "dumbing down" of the game. BW merely looked at gameplay elements that didn't work last time, and attempted to improve them this time around. Hopefully, what you'll find now, is a neater, more streamlined system. You actually have more meaningful customisation options this time around, as well as the new interrupt system, which has allowed BW an insane amount of extra flexibility when it comes to story telling. They've also taken the shooter aspect of the game and improved it through new animations, seemingly less cheesey gameplay mechanics, an improved damage system and weapons that actually feel like weapons.

If your idea of dumbing down is the replacing of a huge amount of redundant (and at times filler) stats, with a much smaller amount which serve a purpose, then perhaps those people are right. If changing up the combat so it feels closer to action, and poses more of a challenge than activate-immunity-point-and-click-till-dead-ad-infinitum, whilst still retaining character progression which has a real impact, then perhaps you won't enjoy the game. If you enjoy non-stop action, then perhaps you won't enjoy the game. If you enjoy a solid mixture of RPG/Action elements, coupled with an incredibly epic story and a large amount of deep, lovable characters?

Well...then I'm pretty sure that this game is for you.

Modifié par Darth_Shizz, 24 janvier 2010 - 05:06 .

[jidnis]

The inventory system in the original Mass Effect was a complete disaster....



I just remember spending long stretches of time individuallly breaking things down into omni-gel.... *yawn*



I think the greater flexibility in appearance customization adds more RPG elements than what was in the original. I am a little concerned about the lack of dialogue choices the reviewer mentioned, but i don't remember the original mass effect allowing you 4 different ways of saying "yes" and "no" (beyond the paragon/renegade specials)

[Darth_Shizz]

Ethan009 wrote...

I just hope activate immunity point and click til dead ad infinitum works on easy.

There's a reason I don't normally play shooting games >_>

I wouldn't worry too much. From what I've heard the squad AI in this is a big improvement over the first, so things should balance themselves. Having said that, I'd be surprised if they've not made easy accessible for those people not entirely used to the intricacies of the modern shooter. Very surprised. 

[LucidStrike]

As an Adept, I'm puzzled as to how ME2 is just a shooter now.

Modifié par LucidStrike, 24 janvier 2010 - 05:15 .

[KainrycKarr]

I like how they whined about choices in ME1 not really affecting ME2, and mentioned Fisk and Helena Blake, which were two extremely minor parts of ME1, and were never once mentioned by the devs.



I personally found that article extremely vague, inaccurate, and generalized in comparison to what I actually saw from watching that live stream a few days ago.



The problem is people keep wanting ME to be like Dragon Age; but it's not. It was never intended to be, and it never, ever, will be.



It is not a shooter. It is not an RPG. It's something new.

[LucidStrike]

KainrycKarr wrote...

It is not a shooter. It is not an RPG. It's something new.

Not really new. We've seen shooter RPG's before. ME is just a really good one with unique characteristics.

Modifié par LucidStrike, 24 janvier 2010 - 05:21 .

[KainrycKarr]

LucidStrike wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

It is not a shooter. It is not an RPG. It's something new.

Not really new. We've seen shooter RPG's before. ME is just a really good one with unique characteristics.

Regardless, I stand by my point. People need to stop judging ME2 for not being something that it was never intended to be in the first place.