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[Medhia_Nox]

@StreetMagic:  Actually, that isn't true at all. 

 

Uncertainty requires your full attention.  Medieval folks were uncertain, every day, about their futures.  So, they had to concentrate on survival.

 

Only those who lived in luxury with little to no uncertainty had the free time to be "imaginative".  There are also those sponsored by the wealthy (inventors, artists, etc.) but again, the uncertainty of day to day survival was removed allowing people like Leonardo Di Vinci to be "imaginative".  

 

I'm not condoning the Qun way of life - I just don't agree with this assertion that uncertainty breeds creativity.  Luxury and the removal of basic survival requirements (the absence of uncertainty) breed creativity. 

 

Which is likely why the Qunari are more technologically advanced (and I agree that this is how advancement actually functions)

 

Education for the masses is ultimately only due to luxury... you get self-betterment on the backs of people toiling so you don't have to have uncertainty.  

 

If all the uneducated laborers just stopped making you your food(farming) or transporting food to you (trucking food, serving you food at diners or grocery stores) you would suddenly be incapable of providing for yourself.  (the modern man is a pathetic survivalist)

 

There would be uncertainty in how to gain basic essentials so that you could live your pampered, educated life.  

 

Let's not pretend that a capitalist society does not engineer a lower class for this luxury.  At least the Qunari are honest about it and actually appreciate their common laborers to some extent.

[Keroko]

Do we know that all qunari are free from that?

 
They have people who's entire life-long job is dedicated to making sure everyone has the right amount of food.
 

It does, however, stifle independent or questioning thought.

Depends. Mostly it will be, yes. But as long as the independent, questioning thought remains inside the job it will be allowed. One cannot improve technology without questioning the old design.

[Giantdeathrobot]

When people speak of the Qun imposing things on people, do remember that the alternative is a medieval society. As in, the vast majority of the population (97-98%) are farmers, usually very poor, who don't do much other than survive on their harvest. They exist at the whims of their local Lord, who has almost every right on them. They may get drafted in the army, or if their Lord or King is at war their fields can be trampled and their families killed and raped because that's what happens in war. And that's without going into dragons, demons, rogue/blood mages, bears, darkspawn, darkspawn bears, and all the other assorted murderous entities out for their blood, sometimes literally. And from what we saw of Kirkwall, many city folks aren't much better off.

 

And let's not even mention Alienage elves or Casteless dwarfs.

 

Compared to that, I could see why the Qun is attractive, both in and out of universe, even if I don't approve of it.

[Geth Supremacy]

I hope when this all does go down they dedicate an entire game to it as the finale of the series....and it isn't some PC and storyline BS.  You can actually play as a Qun follower or not.

[Master Warder Z_]

Those movies...bleh.

 

Turning ONE book into three movies.

[Geth Supremacy]

I hope a finale doesn't come anytime soon.

 

There's a lot of side plots I wish we could do though. Be it heavy Dwarf or Elf or Qunari party. Would love dwarves especially (ala the Hobbit).

Oh i definitely agree.  I know a lot of people bash their writers now for whatever reasons, but really they have an amazing and expansive world in Dragon Age.  So many interesting things and places to utilize.  I usually hate dwarves in games.... I love them in DA.  taking "tumbles" and my personal favorite "sod it all" The first time I played DA 2 and that dwarf merchant walked away from the Arishok ranting under his breath after being told "No" I busted my sides I was laughing so hard.

 

Never really have been an elf fan.  Werewolves are cool I guess, but I don't have much interest there.  Qunari are obviously at the top of my list, but I also love the minor characters they make also.  The "hermit" from DAO and the guy in the tavern where you recruit Liliana "I"M NOT THE BLIND ONE !!11!1!!"  I also want to see some of these locations they always talk about, but we haven't got to visit yet....i'm sure Inquisition with address some of that as well.  Would love more dwarf content too.  Adding in new classes gives some room to grow as well.

[Master Warder Z_]

I know..

 

But at least the filler material he's put in is decent. Better than LotR's action and stunts.

 

o.o

 

I suppose.

 

Not really a fan of the visual media of LOTR anyway though to be honest, i preferred the written.

 

Only rarely, oh so rarely will i cite the visual as superior over the written, its happened all of four times my entire life.

 

Oh and none of them were movies

 

It was mostly anime.

[Master Warder Z_]

Ah.. well, I didn't really like the action of LOTR much at all. I thought Fellowship was the best - and that was for the drama.

 

It's just that I think Hobbit has done better at this. Not that I necessarily gravitate towards it either.

 

Understandable, they are taking the lessons they learned from LOTR obviously and applying them.

 

Personally its not that i think its "better" its just they are more aware of what they need to do this time around.

 

Oh and one of the series i cite as better as a visual media

 

Spoiler

 

Though that could be the tall striking man with the piercing eyes and Totenkkopf sigil adorning his cap.

 

Some folks say they have a thing for bad boys ._. i'd say in this case he qualifies as a bit more then "bad" but that's me.

[RobRam10]

Why in the Dark Gods name is this topic about anime now?

[Master Warder Z_]

Why in the Dark Gods name is this topic about anime now?

 

Why in the names of Andraste and all the Divines after her was this topic not about anime until now?!

 

That is a much better question.

[Master Warder Z_]

lol.. Well, just to offer my 2c. My favorite anime happened to only start as visual. Not manga. Gurren Laggan and Cowboy Bebop.

 

Both excellent choices

 

Still there is something about Hellsing that kept me waiting for both the OVA and Volume release for years when i would have abandoned any other series many times over.

 

<.< It's dat Millennium i think.

[RobRam10]

Why in the names of Andraste and all the Divines after her was this topic not about anime until now?!

 

That is a much better question.

But there is an anime topic in the off topic section...

[Master Warder Z_]

But there is an anime topic in the off topic section...

 

True but have you taken a peek about what is being discussed in there half the time?

 

._.

 

I don't watch the garbage they do.

[aTigerslunch]

No idea, don't care to join the Qun.  I am playing a femqunari cause she is new and hopefully add more information unknown before.    At least that is part of the reason anyways.

[pengwin21]

As for a potential DA:I game involving the qunari, I think we would either have to fight against the Qun or for it, seems like too much variance to be able to choose sides.

[Helios969]

True but have you taken a peek about what is being discussed in there half the time?

 

._.

 

I don't watch the garbage they do.

 

Maybe we should start a private group/discussion (can that be done?)

 

Make the requirement for joining to put together a list of top 10 or 5 animes you really like and why.

[Felene]

Unless you are a mage or individualist, the Qun is actually an utopia. Normal people want to be lead and find purpose in life, Qun offers both plus equal respect to its followers who can do their job.

 

Given the amount of popularity in this thread if given the opportunity I think some non-mage Inquisitors just might join the Qun. 

 

Herald of Andraste convert to the Qun, that will send a nice message to the people through out Thedas.

 

Irony that the only place a mage can seek his/her freedom is within countries that follows the Chantry, or join the Tevinter Imperium.

 

Since we might have some Qun expert here, I have a question:

 

Say we have someone really good at masquerading as a follower of Qun and is an excellent manipulator. What is to stop said person from exploiting his/her power in the Qun, become a corrupt Arishock/Arigena/Ariqun? You know kind of like RL situation?

[Keroko]

Say we have someone really good at masquerading as a follower of Qun and is an excellent manipulator. What is to stop said person from exploiting his/her power in the Qun, become a corrupt Arishock/Arigena/Ariqun? You know kind of like RL situation?

Possible, but much like the real life example of corruption in communism it'd be only a matter of time before the system falls apart, revolution starts and you get hanged.

The only reason the Qun as it is has even reached the heights of power it has in Dragon Age is because its people actually follow the rules and create a fair and equal society rather than exploit the rules and its followers. The moment qunari start exploding the Qun is the moment the dream is shattered.