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[Vandicus]

I seem to remember a dev quote from a long while back saying that according to Bioware's metrics most people played the game only once and as a human. Anybody happen to have the quote on hand or able to direct me to it?

[Icy Magebane]

According to Gaider, it was 80%:  http://forum.bioware...3/#entry9036162

 

You may need to search the topic a bit to determine whether that applies to single playthrough profiles or what.

[olgaroni]

Here is the quote 

It means 15% at least tried making an elven PC at some point, yes. 15% is still a pretty significant chunk, but it's a far cry from the 80% who played human. Without trying to discern the reasons behind such disparity, it's still worthy of note.

Hm. Perhaps it's best if I don't repeat any more of these numbers, if people are going to start second-guessing how we're interpreting them. Nobody has said that the players who made elven PC's are insignificant in number, or that those numbers are a reason to have or not have them.

[frankf43]

The game was set up to play as a human, both of the outcomes where you could end up married to either the king or queen were only available to human characters.

[Eternal Phoenix]

I'm curious as to what statistics have been used and what audience we're talking about here. Are we talking about BSN profiles and the characters they uploaded (because the percentage then seems true from what I've seen on here) or players everywhere? The actions of BSN users in Bioware games often differ from what I see on GameFaqs for example.

 

It's not shocking really. I think most people choose human for any game with racial selection.

 

The game was set up to play as a human, both of the outcomes where you could end up married to either the king or queen were only available to human characters.

 

Which held little weight. Becoming king/queen as human is just as irrelevant as the dwarven noble becoming a paragon.

[Kantr]

Choice is good.

 

I'm curious as to what statistics have been used and what audience we're talking about here. Are we talking about BSN profiles and the characters they uploaded (because they seems true from what I've seen) or players everywhere? The actions of BSN users in Bioware games often differ from what I see on GameFaqs for example.
 
 

 
Which held little weight. Becoming king/queen as human is just as irrelevant as the dwarven noble becoming a paragon.

 

That box you tick about sending info about the game? Thats where they got it from.

[Serza]

Well, that's kinda...

 

I mean, I do have a female Human Noble Warrior playthrough, but I consider my City Elf my headcanon.

 

Meaning the HN is second, if not further down the list, in my line.

[Osena109]

I have Dwarf noble and a human noble  never liked the elves races too zenophobic for me

[Eternal Phoenix]

That box you tick about sending info about the game? Thats where they got it from.

 

Even though I have a PC copy of Origins, I've only ever played it on console so I missed that clearly. I didn't sign up to the E.A's servers either if that's where the info thingie is.

[Icy Magebane]

Well, that's kinda...

 

I mean, I do have a female Human Noble Warrior playthrough, but I consider my City Elf my headcanon.

 

Meaning the HN is second, if not further down the list, in my line.

If they're going strictly by numbers, I can easily see humans taking the lead.  For every person that plays a human once or twice like yourself, there are a lot who only played humans or mostly played humans and picked elf once or twice... maybe dwarf instead of elf... in the end it all adds up in favor of humans, although 80% seems very high.  I would have estimated 60-65% at most.

[Felya87]

I never played a human in DAO. 

[Kantr]

Even though I have a PC copy of Origins, I've only ever played it on console so I missed that clearly. I didn't sign up to the E.A's servers either if that's where the info thingie is.

Might be default on console. Majority of people will tick/untick option. Only minority opt out.

[Fidite Nemini]

Same reason why so many people played male soldier Shepard in Mass Effect, those are the default settings if you don't change anything. And there's a LOT of people out there who buy a game and just blitz through the start up and tutorials without much attention to get straight to the action.

 

 

Those are by extension also a large contributer to the statistic that say that only this or that minority of players actually completed any given game. They jump straight into it without thought and then leave the game just as impulsively.

 

 

 

It's hard to try and make sophisticated products and paint the gaming industry a mature medium when a good chunk, if not the majority of consumers are like mayflies.

[Navasha]

Statistics don't mean much really, especially when you are talking about the greater consumer base.    Only like 30-40% of all DA:O purchases actually finished the game too...    That doesn't mean they should stop making games because most people don't finish them.  

 

A good half of all players project themselves into their characters, so regardless of races offered, you will always have mostly humans. 

[Little Princess Peach]

what a load of Iorn bull I bet they only took a hand full of people and said yup thats a defo quote right there lets make it cannon

[Battlebloodmage]

I prefer to play as human since I can self-insert myself much better (If only Bioware knows how to make non-white chracters worth a damn). I can see that, random people yelling that they play as non-humans don't mean crap in the larger picture. Even if they're not finished the game, the people who buy the game will still prefer to play mostly as humans. These statistics may seem irrelevant to some, but it's justified when DA2 only has the option to play as humans. It's just that people don't want features to be taken away from them, even those who don't use them, like the number of people who actually kill Lelianna vs the number of people who complain about Lelianna comes back from the dead.

[Aolbain]

what a load of Iorn bull I bet they only took a hand full of people and said yup thats a defo quote right there lets make it cannon

 

 

What.

[deuce985]

Could be something as simple as it was the default class to pick for many players. That number could've possibly been skewed into an elf favor if they were default. In short, data is meaningless unless you understand the motivations behind it.

[NUM13ER]

Such statistics don't take into consideration a lot of players who don't have the game connected online or to online accounts. Even if we take it as fact, it means means 20% of your player base did play as a different race. 

So if say 3 million people buy your game, that's that's still 600,000 fans of that feature. Sure it's a minority but it's still a very significant amount of players utilising that option.

It's taking a rather negative view of things by focusing on the number who didn't use the option, when huge numbers of players clearly did. They wouldn't have brought back the races (and added another) if it wasn't a feature they thought an awful lot of players would take advantage of IMO.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Honestly, the reason I only picked human on my first playthrough was because I knew next to nothing about the Elves and Dwarves in Dragon Age so I just took what was familiar to me.

 

In DAI, I have little to no interest of being human especially after DA2 was human-PC only.

[thats1evildude]

 

The game was set up to play as a human, both of the outcomes where you could end up married to either the king or queen were only available to human characters.

 

 

Pfffffffft, who cares about being king or queen? I'd rather be an adventurer.

[kingjezza]

I think people need to realise that just because people on BSN want to play as a transsexual aardvark those sort of choices don't really relate to the gaming community as a whole. Most people play as somebody they can relate to and if Bioware get info back from inquisition I'll give you whatever odds you want the vast majority play as humans, male humans.

[Cyonan]

Humans are always a popular choice in games like this and often the most people choice. A lot of people just like playing as whatever they can relate to the most in RPGs I suppose or putting themselves into the character.

 

It's still good to have the option, though. Personally I don't go for playing a character that looks and acts exactly like I do.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Human was the default. When you started a new game, you were presented with a human character. You had the ability to change the race, but it alwaud started as human.

BioWare has actually acknowledged that the the only way to measure actual player preferences on this would be to randomise the default so as not to bias the sample. It would be cool if Inquisition did this.

[Aurawolf]

Well really other than you can't become king/queen the game really wasn't that different other than some comments here and there if you played human/dwarf/elf. The best part of the game was playing the intros to the different classes anyway. I would hope with DA:I we see a bigger difference depending on what race you play and how it effects with the different factions.