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Are Cole and Justice included in fade demons? If not, I think you need to expand the title to fade creatures ^^

 

In other hand I hope I can see my bro-Messenger again in the DAI. I wouldn't mind seeing the Architect either. I want to know how my darkspawn buddies are doing!



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Why?

 

 

Not sure if directed at me. If not I apologize  ^_^.

 

But my personal reasons why I would want the various non-human/elf/dwarf/qunari races to be allies would come down to two major points.

 

1. Having the most diverse forces means that you have way more options to confront changing situations. I.E. A force comprised solely of Templars is nowhere near as effective as a force using Templars and Mages in concert with one another. And a pack of werewolves is far more effective at melee combat than a band of human/elf/dwarf/qunari soldiers.

 

 

2. I find the age old trope of the 'goodly', human-looking races being the only ones capable of helping the protagonist or being the protagonist to be very dull and boring in the fantasy genre.


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He who fights monsters should be wary lest he becomes one.

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Not sure if directed at me. If not I apologize  ^_^.

 

But my personal reasons why I would want the various non-human/elf/dwarf/qunari races to be allies would come down to two major points.

 

1. Having the most diverse forces means that you have way more options to confront changing situations. I.E. A force comprised solely of Templars is nowhere near as effective as a force using Templars and Mages in concert with one another. And a pack of werewolves is far more effective at melee combat than a band of human/elf/dwarf/qunari soldiers.

 

 

2. I find the age old trope of the 'goodly', human-looking races being the ones capable of helping the protagonist or being the protagonist to be very dull and boring in the fantasy genre.

That's all good, it actually made me chuckle, since there is a support thread for virtually everything now^^

 

1. I feel the werewolves would made your allies uncomfortable in and out the battlefield. Imagine the handing of rations, with werewolves carrying away goats to eat them. Not cost effective. Could work for some other creatures though as in Last Flight:

Spoiler

 

2. I actually agree with you on that, hence why I like Orcs portrayal in ES (badass crafty people who are valued despite suffering some prejudices).



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There should be a Hater Support Thread where people can hate on whatever DA topic they want freely without fear of prejudice and oppression.



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Are Cole and Justice included in fade demons? If not, I think you need to expand the title to fade creatures ^^

 

In other hand I hope I can see my bro-Messenger again in the DAI. I wouldn't mind seeing the Architect either. I want to know how my darkspawn buddies are doing!

Much the same here.

 

I'm hoping we can collaborate with them in secret, as I don't think people would appreciate the Inquisitor publicly allying himself with the Darkspawn, and use them to launch various ambushes through the Deep Roads and help you flank armies and stuff. Also, Demons are scared of the Taint, aren't they?

 

It seems to me like they could be useful, even if it might be tricky getting others to agree that accepting their aid would be for the best.


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One thing I really would like to see if the game will let you recruit or side with such creatures is that the narrative NOT assign a moral deliema to such events; or at the very least not assign 'Crazy Evil' morality for each and every creature you ally with.


Gaining such allies; like working with a group of Sylvans for example; should not always require that the player slaughter a Dalish clan or put babies on spikes to enlist their help.


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YES the civil rights love movement is working! Equality for all creatures! Werewolves and orges need love too! :P



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He who fights monsters should be wary lest he becomes one.

 

so if i fight toddlers i will become one... sweet, blood of the innocent children here i come



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We need more fade demons, I know that terror and another one will be coming on inquisition, it would be awesome to see others, like despair.



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One thing I really would like to see if the game will let you recruit or side with such creatures is that the narrative NOT assign a moral deliema to such events; or at the very least not assign 'Crazy Evil' morality for each and every creature you ally with.


Gaining such allies; like working with a group of Sylvans for example; should not always require that the player slaughter a Dalish clan or put babies on spikes to enlist their help.

Moral dilemma is this: The Disciples need Grey Warden blood to expand their numbers. That's all.

 

If you want to replenish their armies, you're going to have to get blood for them. One Grey Warden's life can quickly recruit many new Disciples, or you can convince the Grey Wardens to give up some blood willingly as part of a voluntary blood donation.

 

Disciples expand at a slower, but more sustainable, rate if you can get the Grey Wardens to agree to this scheme. Better hope you're a diplomancer.

 

Otherwise you could try to enact the Architect's "Kill 75% of the population" idea on a smaller scale and get even more Disciples at the expense of wiping out various population centers.

 

Or you could just wipe the Disciples out.

 

That's a good set of choices for various moral perspectives, or so I should think.


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Moral dilemma is this: The Disciples need Grey Warden blood to expand their numbers. That's all.

 

If you want to replenish their armies, you're going to have to get blood for them. One Grey Warden's life can quickly recruit many new Disciples, or you can convince the Grey Wardens to give up some blood willingly as part of a voluntary blood donation.

 

Disciples expand at a slower, but more sustainable, rate if you can get the Grey Wardens to agree to this scheme. Better hope you're a diplomancer.

 

Otherwise you could try to enact the Architect's "Kill 75% of the population" idea on a smaller scale and get even more Disciples at the expense of wiping out various population centers.

 

Or you could just wipe the Disciples out.

 

That's a good set of choices for various moral perspectives, or so I should think.

 

 

I would love to see a choice like that.

 

Personally, I would always choose the 'compromise' method of getting the two sides to work together.

 

Having two diverse groups of assets is always better than having one big singular group, and a whole lot less boring (IMO).



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I would love to see a choice like that.

 

Personally, I would always choose the 'compromise' method of getting the two sides to work together.

 

Having two diverse groups of assets is always better than having one big singular group, and a whole lot less boring (IMO).

Same here, but you have to let people make the evil choice if that's what they really want.