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[Lulupab]

What kind of terrorism are you thinking about in this revolution ? Did they use terror for political purposes against civilians ? Murdering Hundred or thousand of them to upset or break any compromise ? Did they target willingly a lot of innocent folks or maybe rather soldiers like in a war ? Didn't you mean guerilla ? Military tactics used by the Patriots to adapt to their enemy, because they were weaker militarily, fighting and flexible units engaged in a war of harassment, ambush, raids conducted by regular units or forces without frontline ? It seemed to me that they wanted to create a climate of insecurity for the military forces. This is still war between soldiers there to me. Unless, there are some things I should learn about this revolution and I'm ready to listen. 
 
Did you see something close to what Anders did ?

No need to go into details of real life. The important part was those acts happened to challenge a greater morally questionable ones.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

So that was mere idealism of a fairy tale world.

 

Can I just point out the hilarity that comes from someone with a Dany Sue avatar posting this?

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

She is 17 and insecure, are you? Stop with your trolling already, you always choose a sentence out of context and add salty humor to it and throw it as an argument. Can I just point out the hilarity that comes from someone who claims to be an adult and posts in this way?

(Go read the last book, she is not a sue, martin was saving her for future events. Like the psycho he is)

 

Whoa now Lulu calm your jets, it IS funny to see someone with a Dany Sue avatar condemn idealism if only because so many of her actions REEK of it.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

It's not an oversimplification at all. You merely lack context. Mages, for one, are not a slim minority of the populace. Take the Tevinter Imperium, for instance. It is a country ran by mages, and given their heightened status, there is a large concentration of mages there. They embrace magic rather than fearing it like the rest of Thedas.

 

You also have to consider there are quite a few circles, all of the apostates that are in hiding, the list goes on and on. There are a lot more mages than you think. Many are just concealing their identities or avoid being placed in situations where their talents could be revealed.

 

With that taken into consideration, Anders isn't just doing it for a "minority." He is doing this for a large part of the world and really the future of it. This doesn't just affect mages, but the entirety of Thedas as a whole. It needs to be addressed, as mages actually are only a small part of the actual problem.

Everything you have cited as evidence of mages not being a minority is true to the best of my knowledge. None of it is evidence that mages are not a minority, to the best of my knowledge.

[Lulupab]

Whoa now Lulu calm your jets, it IS funny to see someone with a Dany Sue avatar condemn idealism if only because so many of her actions REEK of it.

But its getting tiring to be honest. I have seen you nitpicking like that a lot. If we are having laughs then OK but I thought it was serious.

Regardless you shouldn't think I like Dany because of her idealism. I like her because she is the only one that can continue the Targaryen legacy (for now) and I want it to continue. I support the Targaryen family and for the moment it has one living member. Idealism has no place in song of ice and fire series. In the last book which is ahead of series Dany is 17, so she is 16 in last season. What do expect from a 16 years old girl? She still has hormone overdose.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

But its getting tiring to be honest. I have seen you nitpicking like that a lot. If we are having laughs then OK but I thought it was serious.
 

 

K, but in all honesty Lulu I rarely mean ANYTHING I say on this forum. Aside from disliking the Dalish and having a degree of support for the Templars it is ALL about some good old fashioned satire and ribbing.

[SmilesJA]

Everything you have cited as evidence of mages not being a minority is true to the best of my knowledge. None of it is evidence that mages are not a minority, to the best of my knowledge.

 

They may not be a minority, but many of the mages of Thedas are oppressed.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

They may not be a minority, but many of the mages of Thedas are oppressed.

I do not see how this works as a reply to what I said.

[Augustei]

Idealism has no place in song of ice and fire series? Then why is Danny still alive? lol. If any of the other characters attempted any of the stuff she's done they'd be dead in a ditch by now but Danny gets away with it because she is A Mary Sue.

The only reason her plans keep working out is because all her enemies are a pack of morons so the plot can keep being driven foward. Astapor was the peak of it but it was evident ALOT throughout her journeys.

[Ryzaki]

They may not be a minority, but many of the mages of Thedas are oppressed.

 

Many of the people in general in Thedas are oppressed. The mages aren't special in this.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Idealism has no place in song of ice and fire series? Then why is Danny still alive? lol. If any of the other characters attempted any of the stuff she's done they'd be dead in a ditch by now but Danny gets away with it because she is A Mary Sue.

The only reason her plans keep working out is because all her enemies are a pack of morons so the plot can keep being driven foward. Astapor was the peak of it but it was evident ALOT throughout her journeys.

 

Sparing that Witch was pretty dumb, expecting her to be grateful for the mercy was even worse.

 

But you know what? I'm willing to give everyone 1 **** up. Everyone CAN make mistakes. It's when they keep repeating the SAME kind of mistake that I take exception.

[Xilizhra]

No Elthina could not have made Meredith back down sooner. Meredith mostly does what she pleases and listens to Elthina selectively. Elthina had only limited control over the templars. And declaring her and other priests guilty by association is wrong. Yeah I know it wasn't a random bombing, it was a ruthlessly calculated bombing, designed to cause as many people to die as possible. That's way worse. And he does more than tacitly approve the death of countless innocents, he's directly responsible.

Elthina is guilty of gross criminal negligence, and by extension, is guilty in part of everything Meredith did from the end of Act 2 onward. Unless literally no mechanism exists within Chantry laws for dealing with a renegade knight-commander, and I find that exceedingly unlikely.

 

Of course. Terrorism should not be tolerated EVEN if you support the cause it claims to work for.

It's not an action I would have taken in his position, but I'm not going to kill one of my best people right before a major battle.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

 

 

It's not an action I would have taken in his position, but I'm not going to kill one of my best people right before a major battle.

 

Best people? That's rich. Then again knowing your.. inclinations I shouldn't be surprised that we have drastically different ideas of who our best people are.

[Xilizhra]

Best people? That's rich. Then again knowing your.. inclinations I shouldn't be surprised that we have drastically different definitions of who our best people are.

Hey, Merrill's locked out of casting healing spells, and mages are worth more, pound for pound, than mundanes provided you have enough of a melee screen to keep them from getting immediately charged. When built properly, Anders can be anyone's MVP.

[Ryzaki]

Hey, Merrill's locked out of casting healing spells, and mages are worth more, pound for pound, than mundanes provided you have enough of a melee screen to keep them from getting immediately charged. When built properly, Anders can be anyone's MVP.

 

 

You're kidding right?

 

MVP in DA2 is rogue dual wielding Hawke easily. EASILY.

 

Haste is nice (as is healing) but you can get perfectly fine without them.

 

My party was Fenris, Hawke, Varric and...the last person alternated between Merrill, Anders and Seb depending on my mood.

[Althix]

 Anders can be anyone's MVP.

no. just no.

 

first of all ability to heal or haste is not making him mvp.

second - he is dead.

 

because he was causing too much problems.

[SmilesJA]

no. just no.

 

first of all ability to heal or haste is not making him mvp.

second - he is dead.

 

because he was causing too much problems.

 

He is to me especially when going against boss battles.

[Andreas Amell]

I'd like to say that if the Warden Commander where there, that would never have happened.

[TheChosenOne]

I'd like to say that if the Warden Commander where there, that would never have happened.

 

My Warden and my Hawke have a lot to talk about when they meet.......

 

" So.. How's my friend Anders doing? I heard he was in krikwall with you" - Warden

 

" He's dead..." - Hawke

 

" By the Maker! How did he die!? " - Warden

 

" I killed him........ " - Hawke

 

" ........ YOU WHAT!!!?! - Warden

[Andreas Amell]

I think the Warden would be more disturbed learning that Anders merged with Justice, whatever the end of Awakenings is for players. But if the Hero of Ferelden were around, I bet he'd never have allowed Anders to go ahead with his plans. He might have brought Ser Pounce-a-lot with him.

[Lulupab]

He is to me especially when going against boss battles.

People who claim Anders is not mvp have never played nightmare difficulty.

[themikefest]

People who claim Anders is not mvp have never played nightmare difficulty.

I have and never used him at all on my nightmare playthrough.

[Lulupab]

I have and never used him at all on my nightmare playthrough.

But you do know that if you are not a mage yourself he turns nightmare into easy mode which was the point. Also ever tried killing Malvernis without Anders (Legacy DLC secret boss) Yeah I have done it, would rather NEVER do it again. Actually if you are not a mage and you play on nightmare, not bringing Anders to legacy dlc is kinda foolish.

[themikefest]

But you do know that if you are not a mage yourself he turns nightmare into easy mode which was the point. Also ever tried killing Malvernis without Anders (Legacy DLC secret boss) Yeah I have done it, would rather NEVER do it again. Actually if you are not a mage and you play on nightmare, not bringing Anders to legacy dlc is kinda foolish.

How do you know what I know? Can you backup that statement?

 

I went through nightmare mode without having Anders at all except when helping him at the beginning. And yes I fought the secret boos in legacy without having him. It was tough, but I beat it. Its not foolish not to bring Anders.  Your point about people not claiming Anders as the most valuable person haven't played nightmare mode is invalid.

[Lulupab]

How do you know what I know? Can you backup that statement?
 
I went through nightmare mode without having Anders at all except when helping him at the beginning. And yes I fought the secret boos in legacy without having him. It was tough, but I beat it. Its not foolish not to bring Anders.  Your point about people not claiming Anders as the most valuable person haven't played nightmare mode is invalid.

He is the mvp because nightmare is a joke with him in the party. He is the only mage who has cooldown reduction in the game, which means he can heal more in any given time and PERMANENTLY haste the party (refresh it before it ends), that's 450% permanent damage increase for the party. Why go through all that toughness when you can easily relax. The fact that not bringing Anders with you makes the game more challenging speaks volumes about why he is the most valuable.