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[KoorahUK]

Sometimes I feel like the only person who has ever fallen for someone they didn't fancy or even like much when the first met them. Personality can be a game changer. Literally in this case.

[Mihura]

It probably just me, I really wanted to romance a female qunari. But the romance options for the men are just so uninteresting.

 

[Joseph Warrick]

Josephine has an italian accent? Will she end every word in a vowel?

[Meraxes]

I don't think we know the characters well enough to call them 'disappointing'.

[BraveVesperia]

Meh, sorry O.P it must be so hard for you being a male. I mean having one game where the majority of romance content is not catered to you, must really be devastating. Heh, welcome to the life of females(for the past 30 something years in gaming).

Yep, and gay guys too.

[Black Jimmy]

While I disagree that the Romances for men are disappointing . I do think it's a shame that heterodudes only have human options. A lady Qunari or Lady Dwarf would have been nice.

Still I've wanted to see Cassandra's muscles since DA2 and Josephine isn't to hard on the eyes either. I can live with that.

[Helios969]

Ah, I miss the good ol' days when we were pleasantly surprised to have a single romance option.  Every third thread started is romance related and another third gets turned into a discussion about romances.  You get what you get.  Deal with it and make the best of what you do have.  I seriously do not understand how for a fantasy action/strategy RPG game that nearly the entire focus is on who can and cannot be romanced.  I am starting to think there are a great many posters that have never actually experienced a RL relationship or the ones they have had are so bad they need to experience a fantasy one to find satisfaction.

[Ianamus]

The options for everyone are fine, but I don't like the fact that it always seems to be the female options that are allowed to be less human. Thane, Garrus, Iron Bull... It's only ever the male LI's that are allowed to deviate from generic, conventionally attractive and incredibly human.

 

As a fan of atypical characters and romances, prticuarly non-human ones, I think it's a shame. Iron bull is also availible to guys, thankfully, and I really like Cassandra as well, but I would love to see more atypical female LI's in the future.

[RedWulfi]

Again with the judging before the game has even come out or have any idea what the companions are really like.

[Ina]

Again with the judging before the game has even come out or have any idea what the companions are really like.

 

Your avatar is so apt for your post.

[daveliam]

While I disagree that the Romances for men are disappointing . I do think it's a shame that heterodudes only have human options. A lady Qunari or Lady Dwarf would have been nice.

Still I've wanted to see Cassandra's muscles since DA2 and Josephine isn't to hard on the eyes either. I can live with that.

The options for everyone are fine, but I don't like the fact that it always seems to be the female options that are allowed to be less human. Thane, Garrus, Iron Bull... It's only ever the male LI's that are allowed to deviate from generic, conventionally attractive and incredibly human.

 

As a fan of atypical characters and romances, prticuarly non-human ones, I think it's a shame. Iron bull is also availible to guys, thankfully, and I really like Cassandra as well, but I would love to see more atypical female LI's in the future.

 

In 100% agreement with the sentiments of these posts.  While I don't see a problem with straight guys getting two options (like almost everyone else), I do think that a greater variety would be nice.  Of course, that's not really been a strong point in the past for Bioware games.  It seems like males always get humans and (in the past) elves; while females get a wide variety of options.  It might be nice to have some non-human options for straight guys to mix things up a bit.

 

I think the only exception to this, really, was SWTOR where straight guys have a twi'lek, a zabrak, a togruta, a few near humans, and a bunch of humans; where straight gals have (I think), just one cathar and the rest are humans.

[Ianamus]

In 100% agreement with the sentiments of these posts.  While I don't see a problem with straight guys getting two options (like almost everyone else), I do think that a greater variety would be nice.  Of course, that's not really been a strong point in the past for Bioware games.  It seems like males always get humans and (in the past) elves; while females get a wide variety of options.  It might be nice to have some non-human options for straight guys to mix things up a bit.

 

I think the only exception to this, really, was SWTOR where straight guys have a twi'lek, a zabrak, a togruta, a few near humans, and a bunch of humans; where straight gals have (I think), just one cathar and the rest are humans.

 

I forgot about SWTOR, straight males did indeed get a wider variety of choices there.

 

I think that gay/bisexual male players should also get a wider variety of options as well. Iron Bull is a great start, but what I really want to see are some non-human m/m options in the next Mass Effect game, as it's one of the few things that could get me excited about Mass Effect again after 3. A non-Asari or human f/f option would be fantastic as well, though less likely, unfortunately.

 

A female Turian and male Quarian are both high on my wish list for future party members and potential LI's, but I'm not convinced that either will actually happen. Particuarly the former.

[daveliam]

I forgot about SWTOR, straight males did indeed get a wider variety of choices there.

 

I think that gay/bisexual male players should also get a wider variety of options as well. Iron Bull is a great start, but what I really want to see are some non-human m/m options in the next Mass Effect game, as it's one of the few things that could get me excited about Mass Effect again after 3. A non-Asari or human f/f option would be fantastic as well, though less likely, unfortunately.

 

A female Turian and male Quarian are both high on my wish list for future party members and potential LI's, but I'm not at all convinced that either will actually happen.

 

Yeah, I could get behind some non-human m/m options in the ME series as well.  I'd be down for Turian, Quarian, Salarian, OR Krogan, to be honest.  In general, m/m options have a nice variety.  It's partially because the N is so small (there's only been 8 options EVER - less than straight male options in SWTOR alone), but 3 out of 8 have been non-human (Zevran, Fenris, and IB v. Sky, Anders, Kaidan, Steve, and Dorian), so it's not been too bad.

 

I'd also like a non-asari alien option for a f/f character in ME.  I'm less likely to play a female in that series now that they have added in m/m options, but if I ever decide to roll a lady, she'll likely be lesbian and asari are a little too "pubescent boy fantasy" for my liking.

[jtav]

And I'm a straight female who'd love it if all her options were human. Go figure.

Bigger problem for me is that they often don't give a lot of variety in terms of personality. What if you're a gay man who's more serious and mission focused. In DA2, I felt like my choices were between two flavors of Twilight.

[Eri]

Ah, I miss the good ol' days when we were pleasantly surprised to have a single romance option.  Every third thread started is romance related and another third gets turned into a discussion about romances.  You get what you get.  Deal with it and make the best of what you do have.  I seriously do not understand how for a fantasy action/strategy RPG game that nearly the entire focus is on who can and cannot be romanced.  I am starting to think there are a great many posters that have never actually experienced a RL relationship or the ones they have had are so bad they need to experience a fantasy one to find satisfaction.

Or, you know, it could be that people have a taste of just how much romances in a game can add to the epic, immersive feel of it. I'm not saying a game needs to have romances to be amazing, but anyone who has played one they actually enjoyed will usually have the opinion that their experience was made that much better for it (if their character was so inclined).

 

Really this should be a testament to how much a well-written character romance can draw us in and make us look forward to more of it in successive works - a kudos to the writers for making us care so much.

 

And I doubt it is ever the case of caring about romance to the detriment of the actual storyline/premise. We already trust the storyline/premise to be amazing, it's the relationships the player forms that are more of a conversation point, due to taste and what they can potentially mean to us (and how that differs from person to person).

[Ianamus]

Yeah, I could get behind some non-human m/m options in the ME series as well.  I'd be down for Turian, Quarian, Salarian, OR Krogan, to be honest.  In general, m/m options have a nice variety.  It's partially because the N is so small (there's only been 8 options EVER - less than straight male options in SWTOR alone), but 3 out of 8 have been non-human (Zevran, Fenris, and IB v. Sky, Anders, Kaidan, Steve, and Dorian), so it's not been too bad.

 

I'd also like a non-asari alien option for a f/f character in ME.  I'm less likely to play a female in that series now that they have added in m/m options, but if I ever decide to roll a lady, she'll likely be lesbian and asari are a little too "pubescent boy fantasy" for my liking.

 

It would be great to see any of those races as an m/m option. It opens up so many possibilities.

 

I don't think the variety of m/m LI's has been particuarly amazing though, but that's because elves are so similar to humans visually that I practically count them as the same 'race'. It's true that there are cultural differences, but then we've had no male Dalish LI's. Both Fenris and Zevran had backgrounds that were not unique to elves.

 

I think that the problem with regards to the Asari is that they are all essentially pansexual by default, so any Asari companion is practically confirmed to be either availible to the female protagonist or not a romance option at all. This means that we are probably never going to see a f/f option who isn't Asari or human, unfortunately.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Actually I agree with the OP to an extent. 

 

I agree with the OP in the sense that straight males have a very limited romance option. Limited in a racial sense.

 

What do I mean by this ? Well let us look at the love interests available for straight males in Dragon Age games so far.

 

In DAO, we had Morrigan and Leliana, both of whom are human females. 

 

In DA2, we had Isabela and Merill, one is a human female and the other is a elven female.

 

In DAI, we will have Cassandra and Josephine, both of whom are human females. 

 

This adds up to 5/6 of them being human females and 1/6 of them being a female of another race, in this case, an elven female. 

 

By contrast for straight females...

 

In DAO they had Alistair and Zevran, one human male and one elven male.

 

In DA2, they had Sebastian, Anders and Fenris, two human males and one elven male.

 

In DAI, they will have Blackwall, Iron Bull, Solas, Cullen, two human males, one elven male and one qunari male. 

 

This adds up to 5/9 of them being human males, 3/9 being elven males and 1/9 being a qunari male.

 

So yes, the OP does have a valid point to make.

 

A company like Bioware, which supposedly says and prides itself on diversity and representation does not seem to be very representative or very diverse in the straight male love interest race department. 

 

Additionally, the responses from most of the posters on this thread which mostly were shaming, dismissal and mockery is rather telling and descriptive of their true nature and stance. Most of them would happily say that they are for diversity and representation yet their words seem to be in contradiction.

 

As for the OP, I hope we get female Qunaris and female Dwarves as love interests as well. Hopefully in the next game.

 

Cheers. 

[pengwin21]

In 100% agreement with the sentiments of these posts.  While I don't see a problem with straight guys getting two options (like almost everyone else), I do think that a greater variety would be nice.  Of course, that's not really been a strong point in the past for Bioware games.  It seems like males always get humans and (in the past) elves; while females get a wide variety of options.  It might be nice to have some non-human options for straight guys to mix things up a bit.

 

I think the only exception to this, really, was SWTOR where straight guys have a twi'lek, a zabrak, a togruta, a few near humans, and a bunch of humans; where straight gals have (I think), just one cathar and the rest are humans.

 

Vector is kinda not human, but yes straight men had more racial options because straight men had more options than anyone else (again) in TOR (0 for lesbians and gay men). You will have to excuse me if I don't sing a lament for them for not having the most options in DA:I as well.

[SardaukarElite]

Additionally, the responses from most of the posters on this thread which mostly were shaming, dismissal and mockery is rather telling and descriptive of their true nature and stance. Most of them would happily say that they are for diversity and representation yet their words seem to be in contradiction.

 

Their true nature is tired.

 

Most groups get the same number of options, whether you like those options is either blind luck or a reflection of your own elitism. The straight male romance camp throwing up these threads twice a week is kind of... dull.

 

To be fair, this thread is asking for something specific, which is better.

[AstraDrakkar]

While there do seem to be more choices for straight female romances in DAI, If I were to base my choice on appearances alone my only choice would be Cullen and I'm not so keen on his DAI look. Based I what I know about them now, I'm not really stoked for romance in DAI. I need more info to decide whether to even bother with a romance at this point.

[Vapaa]

 

A company like Bioware, which supposedly says and prides itself on diversity and representation does not seem to be very representative or very diverse in the straight male love interest race department.

 

You are confusing yourself, representation is the act of representing something from the real world into a media to acknowledge its existence....elf LIs are in no way representation of IRL elf people

[Helios969]

Eri: I didn't mean to imply that I don't appreciate the romances in Dragon Age, but it is the constant complaining on which gender / sexual orientation group got shafted that annoys me. I mean I like Asian women so should I pitch a fit because there are no Asian looking characters in the DA universe?

[Vita Brevis]

It probably just me, I really wanted to romance a female qunari. But the romance options for the men are just so uninteresting.

Yes, it's just you. You want too much.

[daveliam]

Vector is kinda not human, but yes straight men had more racial options because straight men had more options than anyone else (again) in TOR (0 for lesbians and gay men). You will have to excuse me if I don't sing a lament for them for not having the most options in DA:I as well.

 

Yeah, let me be really clear:  I do not agree with the straight males who are claiming that they are somehow being "underrepresented" or "lacking options" or "losing options" or other such (imo) nonsense.  Straight males are getting two options, same as everyone else who is not a straight female (and if I want to split hairs, straight elven and human females, specifically) and same as in the other two DA games prior. 

 

However, that being said, there is legitimacy to a straight guy who wants to see a wider variety within their options.  I support that because, as has been pointed out, 5 out of 6 of their options in DA have been human women.  It would be nice for them to get a wider variety of racial options.

 

You are confusing yourself, representation is the act of representing something from the real world into a media to acknowledge its existence....elf LIs are in no way representation of IRL elf people

 

Exactly.  It is not the same thing to ask "elf" or "qunari" or "dwarf" representation because they are fictional races (using 'dwarf' to specifically refer to the fantasy race and not humans with dwarfism, which is a different thing).  That is totally different than asking for representation for existing groups of people in the real world.

 

Eri: I didn't mean to imply that I don't appreciate the romances in Dragon Age, but it is the constant complaining on which gender / sexual orientation group got shafted that annoys me. I mean I like Asian women so should I pitch a fit because there are no Asian looking characters in the DA universe?

 

This is a false comparison for several reasons.  I'll let you figure out why.