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#101
TheKomandorShepard

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Merril was an idiot that couldn't face demon without demon taking control over her she was danger to peoples around her so well...



#102
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Don't even try the moral stuff pls

no she can keep going with it, the irony is so delicious I can taste it

 

kinda metallic



#103
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well I'd say the one who walks around darktown at night isn't the brighter one

Extremely capable blood mage. I'd dare them to try her.



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I should've made my icon Monomi. I'm getting ignored so hard, it's maddening. 



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Very much so. I suspect that my foes tend to value the principles of loyalty, authority and sanctity rather more than I, with less emphasis on care and liberty.

I for one am big on liberty, mostly for myself though



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Very much so. I suspect that my foes tend to value the principles of loyalty, authority and sanctity rather more than I, with less emphasis on care and liberty.

 

Oh some of us value care and liberty, we also see reason behind the Templar Order



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Very much so. I suspect that my foes tend to value the principles of loyalty, authority and sanctity rather more than I, with less emphasis on care and liberty.

I think they just value living more than you do. They don't want to die, and you want to increase the chances of them dying. No they aren't going to support you. Most of the mages in Kirkwall actually supported a Circle that operated under the right system. The kind of thing you're proposing is the mindset of random cave boss mage 6.



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I should've made my icon Monomi. I'm getting ignored so hard, it's maddening. 

I apologize on my fan club's behalf. I have to go now in any case, so have at it.



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I would be in favor of mages going independent and still having the circle be a requirement for young mages, but with the templars under the command of the First Enchanter, not as the ones in charge.

 

Templars are still needed to protect mages from demons and to protect innocents from mages, but having absolute authority in the Circles is a bit too much power.



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Never used blood magic for anything in any malicious way, was an honest and straightforward blood mage, and was a loyal friend who could've literally destroyed people who looked down on her and never did anything but try to understand them,
 
Even more, she was ready to accept the consequences for her use of the magic, e.g. her life, and took Hawke and co. because she truly trusted the rich bastard to kill her had things gone sour.


Jowan never used it in a 'malicious' way save to escape, it's easier to be straightforward and honest about it when you're not living in a circle, it's still a crime either way, and a circle system that makes exceptions based on the mage having powerful allies seems rather corrupt.

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I would be in favor of mages going independent and still having the circle be a requirement for young mages, but with the templars under the command of the First Enchanter, not as the ones in charge.

"The First Enchanter said not to allow anyone go to the upper levels, and I don't question orders."-Templar in Magi Origin

 

The Circle of Magi also runs itself. Really. 



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Very much so. I suspect that my foes tend to value the principles of loyalty, authority and sanctity rather more than I, with less emphasis on care and liberty.

Yup, that's why I prevented the annulment in DAO and saved Irving. Seems legit.



#113
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Jowan was an idiot.

 

His whole reason for bloodmagic was "I thought it'd make me stronger" probably had a complex because the PC was better than him.

 

What. An. Idiot.

 

I'd stick to gutting him in the cell but I can't kill Isolde that way.


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"The First Enchanter said not to allow anyone go to the upper levels, and I don't question orders."-Templar in Magi Origin

 

The Circle of Magi also runs itself. Really. 

 

Yes, but if the Knight Commander and the First Enchanter give conflicting orders, who do you think the templars are going to listen to?



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All of us safe except the ones who are deliberately fed to demons by the templars... which is everyone who doesn't have their emotions ripped out, and that's before the possibility of being murdered simply for being in the tower at the wrong time. And those are only the official horrors that can be inflicted legally even while you obey all the rules.

demons are a constant threat better to test in youth than wait for it to randomly happen. Lore says abominations are rare but they can cause untold amounts of damage. Think of the non magi who cant defend themselves. I admit changes should be made but these things have kept the people safe. A common agruement which is true is the needs of the many v the few.

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If the book is true , and the Templar and Seeker don't answer anymore to the Chantry . Then they just become even more dangerous in my personal view . 

 

They are zealot , who because of the chantry become an army with too much 'freedom censorship' policy . Aka decide the fate of someone else , when themself aren't above sins . 

The fact they exist is an abomination in its self . Their whole system should be either put in shackles (oh the irony) or tore down and be done with it . 

 

I do not support the Templar . I did play a Warrior Hawk who sided with them . But again , that Hawk was someone who supported the circle not them as such . And supported them in the end out of necessity if anything...since you really couldn't tell them both to get lost (or just usurp the chantry in any way or force Elthina to make a final choice) . 

 

Even the good Templar , wouldn't get my support . For the simple reason they still have tie with the said organization . They probably wouldn't like me...if I tell them I wanna see the Templar in ruins . They'll switch their view in a heartbeat and that is to be exepcted . 

 

So yeah , never gonna support the Templar or their claim , or their belief , or their religions , or their stable safe peaceful view as an organization . EVER . 



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"The First Enchanter said not to allow anyone go to the upper levels, and I don't question orders."-Templar in Magi Origin

 

The Circle of Magi also runs itself. Really. 

Depends on the circle.  Ideally, it should be similar to Gregior and Irving who seemed to respect each other enough that they'd actually work together to catch corrupt mages and templars.  Of course, there was still mistrust there with Irving wanting the mage protagonist to go along with Jowan to get Lily in trouble as well since he felt Lily wouldn't get punished unless they went far enough.


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Yes, but if the Knight Commander and the First Enchanter give conflicting orders, who do you think the templars are going to listen to?

Do note that Gregor and Irving where very good friends, they argued, butt hey would normally make up later. This is hwy the Ferelden circle fort he most part was decent as far as circles go. A circle had two good leaders for both groups.



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Yup, that's why I prevented the annulment in DAO and saved Irving. Seems legit.

 

Don't lie :P



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Yes, but if the Knight Commander and the First Enchanter give conflicting orders, who do you think the templars are going to listen to?

Their superior? Shocker. Irving still controls the Circle. He and Greagoir are more like co-leaders. That's why if you help Jowan, you have to be conscripted, where as if you help Irving, Irving lets you go against Greagoir's wishes.   


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WoW when I started this topic, I was not planning on this to be so explosive, lol man I guess being in the hospital for a month, gave me a heated touch, :P

sorry to here that chief :) but yqy this topics explode i try to be calm. *Offers popcorn*

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For the Imperium!



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Don't lie :P

Huh? My Hawke helped the templars in DA2, but my warden? Never.