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[AresKeith]

hmm?

Anyways, Ocelot's new design has grown on me. I still miss the stache though.

 

He didn't grow it yet

[Mr.House]

Eh, Fortune w/ less clothes on isn't all that ridiculous to me. I'm not making the comparison because they're both women, but more so because Fortune was wearing a swimsuit on an oil tanker.

Diffrence between them is Fortune had a purpose and personality. She was not there for the annual ****** show.

[Mr.House]

I missed the part where Quiet didn't have some kind of personality and was there for a whatever-you're-saying-right-there show.

What's her personality then, hmm?  The fact that all we know about the character is she likes to run around half naked is just sad.

[AresKeith]

What's her personality then, hmm?  The fact that all we know about the character is she likes to run around half naked is just sad.

 

I think we should wait till the game comes out before making that judgement tbh

[Ryzaki]

I think we should wait till the game comes out before making that judgement tbh

 

I have to say this.

 

But the fact that she's mute (by choice true but still...) isn't boding well to me *shrug*

[AresKeith]

I have to say this.

 

But the fact that she's mute (by choice true but still...) isn't boding well to me *shrug*

 

That's understandable, I'm skeptical towards her myself

 

I did hear a theory that she might have some connection to The End 

[Ryzaki]

Yeah, being mute could pose a problem. She shot a grenade towards a helicopter though, so I'm willing to wait and see.

 

That's understandable, I'm skeptical towards her myself

 

I did hear a theory that she might have some connection to The End 

 

Yeah well pardon me but I shall be over here sideyeing the game.

 

She might pleasantly surprise me. I have severe doubts though.

 

What like an follow up version?
 

[Mr.House]

I think we should wait till the game comes out before making that judgement tbh

It's a Kojima game post MGS4. Making judgment on this crappy game is fine.

[The Hierophant]

@AresKeith It would be amusing if she's related to The End.

[The Love Runner]

Remember to keep Quiet in the library.

HARDY HAR HAR!!

[AresKeith]

@AresKeith It would be amusing if she's related to The End.

 

Well they're the only two snipers we know with that mark ability 

[The Hierophant]

Being the troll that he is Kojima could throw a curveball at us and just make her an unrelated character.

Also, hopefully Kojima learned his lesson with the BB unit and created interesting boss characters. BB were 1D turrible.

[TheChris92]

The B&B unit were uninspired cardboard cut-outs of Foxhound with none of the interesting backstories or characterization. This can of course be said of MGS4 in general -- It's a game that is so racked up in its nostalgia, self-congratulating itself, so that you may not notice the countless leaking plot holes slowly making the entire thing sink. The Cobra Unit would have been more interesting if they'd actually been provided more depth beyond being a boss battle for Snake -- Generally, The End had the best boss battle but even he didn't serve much purpose beyond being an obstacle. Foxhound and even a few members of Dead Cell, were provided with plenty screen time, character depth and a purpose beyond simply being obstacles, though in retrospect, once you figure out the concept being the Big Shell and everything their purpose makes sense and they become all the better for it.

 

Kojima tends to always write his female characters as shrieking mimsys in a relationship with a bellend, with the larger exceptions like The Boss, and they are all tragic characters who usually need a male to save them. I'm of course thinking of Akiba in MGS4, which was about the most retarded thing ever was to make a joke character into an all bad-ass action here, whom Meryl (an experienced soldier) need to heavily rely on as opposed to him relying on her. And then you have Strangelove in Peace Walker, who for some reason has a crazy infatuation with a woman she hardly knows and that's about all there is to her. Blergh

 

It's by the time of MGS4 where I just had enough of Kojima's dumb writing, stupid villains like the B&B and Hot Coldman. The man needs an editor, then he needs to move on to something else, most likely Hollywood, because the production of his game sometimes feel more or less like shameless pandering to his good friend Avi Arad or whomever.

 

I'll always love MGS1-3 though. Awesome games, no sequels would make them any less so.

[Blooddrunk1004]

People will always make judgement even before characters will get introduced.

I find it hillarious that Bioware forums are complaining about female characters lacking clothes. Yeah, let's forget about Miranda in high heels and latex suit or Jack who goes into fights topless.

 

All the gameplays that were shown so far are top notch and i can't wait for it regardless if i see a half naked woman in the game.

[TheChris92]

And people also tend to make presumptuous statements when they quite clearly haven't read what has been said, trying to derail the discussion away from the subject matter, when it involves negative criticism of their favorite thing.

I get that though -- It's clear the subject doesn't matter to you, or a lot of people, but it doesn't really make it irrelevant for discussion when it's a valid thing to talk about.

Anyway..

We are not talking about whatever BioWare does here -- We're talking about what Kojima is doing, not just with female characters, but with this franchise. To me the gameplay feels more or less like something out of Splinter Cell, where the action and ridiculous additions like vehicles, take precedence over opportunity for stealth, which is essentially what Ground Zeroes encouraged a lot in its gameplay.

 

But I think the biggest beef is the insistence on Kojima panding this franchise out with so much hamhandedness that its barely recognizable anymore, terrible handling of tying plot threads resulting in awful writing, and he certainly doesn't seem to have a problem with shooting more plot holes into the mess that is Metal Gear.

 

But, whatever, he can do whatever he wants so that one day, maybe Hollywood-senpai will finally notice him, if this is what it takes.

 

Don't really care for discussing it anymore. I've had my share of futile discussions around Metal Gear to last a life time.

[SmilesJA]

Wasn't that theory debunked a while back?

[General TSAR]

In regards to Quiet's outfit, here's my in-universe take on it.  

 

Quiet needs direct sunlight to activate her abilities, much like the End. This explains why when she was captured by the Soviets, they covered her up and she couldn't escape using her powers. 

 

Regardless, Quiet's outfit shouldn't make or break the game. 

..........

Anyway when Quiet shot that grenade in mid-air and took out that Havoc.....oh.....oh...I needed napkins.  

 

Also I did not expect Africa to be as big as Afghanistan and perhaps even bigger, can't wait to get lost there.

 

Still hoping you could play as Diamond Dog soldiers.

 

@AresKeith It would be amusing if she's related to The End.

 

Yep and/or to "Those who don't exist" 

[Mr.House]

People will always make judgement even before characters will get introduced.

I find it hillarious that Bioware forums are complaining about female characters lacking clothes. Yeah, let's forget about Miranda in high heels and latex suit or Jack who goes into fights topless.

 

All the gameplays that were shown so far are top notch and i can't wait for it regardless if i see a half naked woman in the game.

Seeign as I criticized Miranda and Jacks outfit, I don't see your point and the gameplay looks like a crappy TPS with slapped on stealth.

[Vroom Vroom]

I used the search option, couldn't find a Metal Gear Solid topic.

 

Anyway...

 

I'm in love with Quiet right now.

 

More Quiet

I saw a theory a while back that stated Quiet was a male character who is already known to the series that had gender reassignment surgery, I'll laugh that ends up being the case

 

Edit: I posted before looking on page two, it's posted right above me, oops.