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[Hydwn]

I don't think Hawke ever directly mentions The Warden, although I think Aveline and Anders both do (maybe Isabella too?), as does Alistair if you encounter him, so Hawke at least encounters other people's opinions about the Warden even if he/she never expresses one of his/her own. Perhaps the Inquisitor will be able to talk about Hawke with Varric, Leliana, and Cassandra; they will all have definite opinions about Hawke (what those opinions are may depend on your story choices from DA2). Of course, if Hawke does put in an appearance, as seems likely based on the trailer, the Inquisitor may get to talk to Hawke directly at some point.

 

I think Hawke mentions that the hero of Ferelden just to say that the hero defeated the Blight.  But you're right.

 

Only two I remember comment on the Hero's legacy.  Bodahn Feddic will always let you know the gender of the hero, and the ending they picked when you talk to him in the square in Act 1.  He will always be sympathetic, even if the hero was a bastard.  

 

Leandra will talk about the Warden if they were a human mage, because the human mage's last name is Amell and is retconned as Hawke's cousin.  Interesting, my human mage was a blood mage who always made the evil decisions, but Leandra still talked about him in glowing terms.

 

Oh, there's also Merrill, who has a lot of programmed dialogue to talk about "Mahariel" - the Dalish Warden's last name - if the warden was Dalish.  Her reports of Mahariel's life are nothing short of glowing, even if Mahariel was evil.

 

The Inquisitor is at the peace conference, and so is invested enough in the story to have an opinion.  The trailers seem to suggest that they don't know Cassandra when she confronts them, so they likely haven't heard the version she heard from Varric.

[Darkly Tranquil]

Because they thought that Hawke was the only one who could fix everything, since the Hero is AWOL.

Which always seemed like a fairly daft notion. Why would the Templars and/or Chantry listen to Hawke (who is in some circles held responsible for the whole mess) or the Warden (who is a member of a fairly distrusted Order that is, from what I can gather, not well liked by Templars for their use of apostates and blood mages)? By the time Cassandra and Leliana are looking for the Warden and Hawke, events seem to have spiralled way beyond the ability of any individual to resolve them.

The whole, "only Hawke can fix this mess" thing seems like it was meant to fit a narrative where Hawke becomes the Inquisitor (remember the whole "Hawke will become the most influential individual in Thedas" thing?). I got the distinct impression Hawke was meant to become the Commander Shepherd of future DA games, but the reaction to DA2 was so poor they had to scrap the idea and move on with a new protagonist to make as clean a break from DA2 as possible (and to have player race options again).

[Kenshen]

Which always seemed like a fairly daft notion. Why would the Templars and/or Chantry listen to Hawke (who is in some circles held responsible for the whole mess) or the Warden (who is a member of a fairly distrusted Order that is, from what I can gather, not well liked by Templars for their use of apostates and blood mages)? By the time Cassandra and Leliana are looking for the Warden and Hawke, events seem to have spiralled way beyond the ability of any individual to resolve them.

The whole, "only Hawke can fix this mess" thing seems like it was meant to fit a narrative where Hawke becomes the Inquisitor (remember the whole "Hawke will become the most influential individual in Thedas" thing?). I got the distinct impression Hawke was meant to become the Commander Shepherd of future DA games, but the reaction to DA2 was so poor they had to scrap the idea and move on with a new protagonist to make as clean a break from DA2 as possible (and to have player race options again).

 

They were hoping since Hawke was there from the begining and had a hand in how things end in Kirkwall that he/she can help stem the tide of war.  It is a fairy tale really since a mage/templar war was coming no matter what I don't see either side listening to Hawke or anyone else but it does show how desperate the chantry is.  They mention the warden only because they are missing as is Hawke and both disappearances could be connected. They are reaching for straws imo.

[Willowhugger]

I think it's interesting that Varric's novels aren't just a small time story arc either but are famous enough around Fereldan that they've got a dozen copies (possessed by the soldiers as well as the nobility and servants) around Duke Propser's chauteau.

They're not even Varric's works but unauthorized fanfic.

I wonder how far Hawke's story has spread.

[General TSAR]

Hawke will be forever known as the capital idiot of Thedas no matter his/her actions.

[KaiserShep]

Which always seemed like a fairly daft notion. Why would the Templars and/or Chantry listen to Hawke (who is in some circles held responsible for the whole mess) or the Warden (who is a member of a fairly distrusted Order that is, from what I can gather, not well liked by Templars for their use of apostates and blood mages)?

 

It's funny. I wonder how many Templars would consider my Warden-Commander to be justified in killing Templars instead of handing Anders over.

[whanzephruseke]

It's funny. I wonder how many Templars would consider my Warden-Commander to be justified in killing Templars instead of handing Anders over.

 

Most of them, I think.  Rylock was disobeying orders, and if there's one thing the templars hate more than mages, it's people who don't follow orders.

[Willowhugger]

They may reconsider after Anders blows up the Grand Cleric.

[whanzephruseke]

They may reconsider after Anders blows up the Grand Cleric.

 

True, but I doubt they blame the Warden for that.

[Willowhugger]

True, but I doubt they blame the Warden for that.

 

Well, they may blame the Warden for sheltering Anders, for teaching him Blood Magic (if he knows it), and getting him in contact with Justice.

[KaiserShep]

Anders can learn blood magic in Awakening? I have to say, I'm glad that Inquisition isn't playing around with that specialization.

[whanzephruseke]

Well, they may blame the Warden for sheltering Anders, for teaching him Blood Magic (if he knows it), and getting him in contact with Justice.

 

And yet, if the stories Cassandra has heard represent public opinion, Hawke is the one shouldering most of the blame.  She does seem to believe that Hawke was conspiring with the Wardens, although she doesn't mention the Hero (probably because you don't necessarily play as the Hero in Awakening).

[Willowhugger]

Anders can learn blood magic in Awakening? I have to say, I'm glad that Inquisition isn't playing around with that specialization.

 

Yeah, he even has special dialogue for it.

 

"They always accused me of being a Maelificar."

"You ARE a Maelficar."

"Well, sure, NOW."

[KaiserShep]

That's pretty hilarious.

[Sifr]

The whole, "only Hawke can fix this mess" thing seems like it was meant to fit a narrative where Hawke becomes the Inquisitor (remember the whole "Hawke will become the most influential individual in Thedas" thing?). I got the distinct impression Hawke was meant to become the Commander Shepherd of future DA games, but the reaction to DA2 was so poor they had to scrap the idea and move on with a new protagonist to make as clean a break from DA2 as possible (and to have player race options again).

 

While I think that Cassandra's reasons for wanting Hawke was to bring them into the Inquisition, I don't think Hawke was necessarily meant to have taken the role of the Inquisitor. The "most influential individual person in Thedas" may have been intended, but might have also just been hyperbole relating to Hawke having a significant role in the future of the Chantry that would have likely been the focus of the cancelled Exalted Marches DLC.

 

I actually kind of hope that both those things still happen actually. If Hawke's able to join the Inquisition as one of our agents and they're the one we send to deal with the Chantry conflict while we focus on the Fade Tears, then at least we can wrap up their story in a satisfying manner. Even if most of what we hear Hawke is doing happens offscreen, it'd be nice to see Hawke as the everyman manage to succeed in resolving something, rather than have every single problem set up in the last game get fixed by a walking messianic archetype in the form of the Inquisitor.

[Hydwn]

Which always seemed like a fairly daft notion. Why would the Templars and/or Chantry listen to Hawke (who is in some circles held responsible for the whole mess) or the Warden (who is a member of a fairly distrusted Order that is, from what I can gather, not well liked by Templars for their use of apostates and blood mages)? By the time Cassandra and Leliana are looking for the Warden and Hawke, events seem to have spiralled way beyond the ability of any individual to resolve them.

 

I got the impression they'd reached the "grasping desperately at straws" point by then.  No templars, no circles, and increasingly the only thing the chantry had to wield was the loyalty of its rank-and-file faithful.  They were likely running out of solutions by then.

[Hydwn]

I think it's interesting that Varric's novels aren't just a small time story arc either but are famous enough around Fereldan that they've got a dozen copies (possessed by the soldiers as well as the nobility and servants) around Duke Propser's chauteau.

They're not even Varric's works but unauthorized fanfic.

I wonder how far Hawke's story has spread.

 

Although it sounded like it was more based on a romanticized version of the city guard, based on a conversation he had with Aveline about a fight breaking out in the barracks.

 

But you're right.  It's spread far and wide enough people are coming up with competing versions - I think we see that in all the wild tales Cassandra seems to have heard.  

[Darkly Tranquil]

I actually kind of hope that both those things still happen actually. If Hawke's able to join the Inquisition as one of our agents and they're the one we send to deal with the Chantry conflict while we focus on the Fade Tears, then at least we can wrap up their story in a satisfying manner. Even if most of what we hear Hawke is doing happens offscreen, it'd be nice to see Hawke as the everyman manage to succeed in resolving something, rather than have every single problem set up in the last game get fixed by a walking messianic archetype in the form of the Inquisitor.

I wouldn't hate that idea at all, actually. It would be a good way to round out Hawke's story without it distracting too much from the main storyline of DAI. There certainly seems to be a lot more scope for Hawke to have a meaningful cameo in DAI than many of the other characters that will get shoehorned in. The only issue I can see is that some people may not overly care for their former protagonist to reduced to the rank of mook for the new protagonist, so it would need to be handled carefully.

[Hydwn]

I actually kind of hope that both those things still happen actually. If Hawke's able to join the Inquisition as one of our agents and they're the one we send to deal with the Chantry conflict while we focus on the Fade Tears, then at least we can wrap up their story in a satisfying manner. Even if most of what we hear Hawke is doing happens offscreen, it'd be nice to see Hawke as the everyman manage to succeed in resolving something, rather than have every single problem set up in the last game get fixed by a walking messianic archetype in the form of the Inquisitor.

 

They mentioned that they're returning to some old storylines with the Skyhold judgements.  I wonder if Hawke will wind up before the Inquisitor - if I'm right that Hawke's been unfairly scapegoated between games?  Then you could absolve them, make them an agent, jail them... 

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Because they thought that Hawke was the only one who could fix everything, since the Hero is AWOL.

 

But if they thought Hawke was in league with Anders, why would they think he or she would help them?

[whanzephruseke]

But if they thought Hawke was in league with Anders, why would they think he or she would help them?

 

Because a giant rift in the sky would make anyone question their priorities?

[rapscallioness]

I think Hawke would have more of an infamous, or controversial rep. Some would love Hawke, some would hate Hawke. So many stories swirling about. So many rumors. Nobody really knows.

 

Even if you become Viscount--it could be seen as all a plot to take power in Kirkwall.

 

And now Hawke has disappeared.... There are prolly Hawke sightings coming in from ppl all over. "Hawke was at the 7-11 getting a big gulp"

 

Or selling bits of Hawke's finger bones..

 

edit: sigh. i miss hawke

[FlyingSquirrel]

Is Corypheus supposed to play a major role in DA:I? (I've been avoiding spoilers for the most part.) I tend to think he'll be at most a minor factor since he's a DLC character. As for Flemeth, she seems like the type to scheme and manipulate her way out of all kinds of situations. If she causes any trouble, Hawke is no more to blame than anyone else whom she's used to keep herself alive over the years.

[Willowhugger]

But if they thought Hawke was in league with Anders, why would they think he or she would help them?

 

Anders may end up a controversial figure.

Rather than Osama, some may see him as Guy Fawkes.

People burned him in effigy for centuries and now he's an anarchist celebrity.

[Willowhugger]

Is Corypheus supposed to play a major role in DA:I? (I've been avoiding spoilers for the most part.) I tend to think he'll be at most a minor factor since he's a DLC character. As for Flemeth, she seems like the type to scheme and manipulate her way out of all kinds of situations. If she causes any trouble, Hawke is no more to blame than anyone else whom she's used to keep herself alive over the years.

 

Spoiler

He's the Boss of the Grey Warden section of the game. You get an achievement for killing him.