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[Uccio]

Kill him, the only good darkspawn is a dead darkspawn. No mercy for the monsters.

[AshesEleven]

Reasoning for letting him live: maybe the future blights will stop.

Reasoning for killing him: he's proven to be incompetent thus far, the awakening process making the mother go insane and kickstarting the fifth blight. We have no idea if he can be trusted, and if he can, he really doesn't seem capable of leading his awakened people. Also, what are the dark spawn gonna do if they're all awakened? Live peacefully in the deep roads, possibly giving some thaigs back to the dwarves? I doubt it.

It seems incredibly irresponsible to let him live

[Panda]

Why would you kill best anti-hero there is in the game?

Architect always lives in my playthrougs.

[Medhia_Nox]

Someone refresh my memory - is this the guy that started a Blight early to run a few experiments?

Yeah... thought so.

[Sir Froggie]

Why would you kill best anti-hero there is in the game?

Architect always lives in my playthrougs.

I don't kill Loghain, the parasite dies with the rest of it's filth.

[Snook]

Before I read The Calling - kill it with fire
After I read The Calling - kill it with even more fire

I don't need darkspawn synthesis in my life.

[TheJediSaint]

Stupid hat, had to die.

[Ieldra]

I have several Wardens who made different decisions, but my main Warden let him live because he thought the Architect deserves a chance if this could end the Blights. From my player's perspective, this is also the more interesting option. "Kill 'em all" has never appealed to me as a solution for anything. Not with the Reapers, not with the darkspawn.

[TheJediSaint]

Everyone has stupid hats in Thedas. 

Yes, but his was particularly bad.  If anything, I was doing him a favor so that he would no longer have to live with dunce-hat fused to his head.

[Gruntburner]

I always kill the Architect, as the Darkspawn are purely a pestilence on Thedas. Sure he MAY prevent future Blights, he MAY lead the Darkspawn away from surface races, and he himself MAY bear no ill will toward non-darkspawn, but as Kreia once said, "Plans are fragile things and life often dashes expectations to the ground." What has he done? His actions directly lead to the Fifth Blight, his awakened Darkspawn are still firmly in the realm of chaotic evil, he unleashed the Mother onto the world, and he has shown a willingness to deceive the Warden and his underlings, fearing they may object. Hell, just like how the Mother freaked out, there is no guarantee that the Darkspawn even want to be free.

 

And here is my biggest reason for disliking the Darkspawn. Even under the absolute best circumstances, where he is able to curb the Darkspawn's violent tendencies, stop any future blights from occurring, and even somehow get around the fact that Darkspawn poison the very earth, I ask you this: how will the Darkspawn reproduce in the future? I doubt current Broodmothers have indefinite lifespans, meaning that they will eventually need to be replaced. But with whom? Other races. And that is why the Darkspawn are fundamentally irredeemable: despite all the Architect's posturing that the Darkspawn just want peace with the other races, they need to turn other races into broodmothers just to reproduce. Even under the best circumstances, Darkspawn will eventually kidnap people for new broodmothers.

[Gorguz]

There's nothing that says Grey Wardens all think the same. Grey Wardens let him live before. And his main sidekick is a Grey Warden (Utha).

Eh... Wardens who wanted to walk the easy route (and helped starting the blight instead). And even they tried to kill it in the end.

[LadyDraven]

I always kill him.  I start a play-through with every intention of allowing him to live but i just cant do it.

[Icy Magebane]

Kill him.  Never trust a darkspawn.

[DKJaigen]

The reason i always spare him is that thedas is running out of options. the defeat of an archdemon is temporarily and  a minor setback. the question people need to ask themselves is what happens if the last old gods are gone. likely the darkspawn will swarm the surface since they have no reason going underground anymore.

And if the imperium and the dwarves could not defeat them when they where at their highest peak then the current nations of thedas have no chance in hell of defeating them militarily. 

[Sifr]

As you may have noticed, I have a problem with the idea of "starting a blight".

 

Blights already start, no matter what. There's no escaping it. In my opinion, you have nothing to lose by searching for different solutions. Even if they end up disastrous. Because the world is fucked either way.

 

The Grey Wardens are necessary, but their solution hasn't evolved in 2000 years. It's the same tireless oath of vigilance day-in day-out, waiting for another Blight, and then another, and then another, and then another. 

 

Exactly this.

 

While intelligent Darkspawn are a great risk and you're opening Pandora's box, the fact that some of them like the Messenger can be benevolent proves that they don't have to be monsters, nor do they have to be at war with the world and everything in it. Sure some like the Mother and her ilk go wrong, but some of them like the Architect and his forces want to find a better solution if at all possible?

 

Avernus already had great success halting the Taint for over 200 years and researching the Taint on the Grey Wardens side of the fence, while the Architect conversely figured out how to use Warden Blood to sever the connection to the Old Gods on the Darkspawn's side. The Architect has also apparently found a means to allow Ghouls to retain their sanity, as implied by both Seranni and Utha being lucid and self-aware despite undergoing ghoulification (for decades in the case of the latter), which could prove to be a great boon for the Wardens.

 

If those two put their heads together, their research might prove incredibly useful along the road.

[Brodoteau]

I have always killed him.  But I have a hard time with the choice.  My reasoning is always based on four things: 

1.  How do Darkspawn reproduce?  They need humans, dwarfs, elves etc. to breed.  How can I condemn women to being transformed into broodmothers.  Even if they are intelligent ones (like the mother).  

2.  He attacked Vigil's Keep and killed the Wardens.  This was a misunderstanding.  He captured the Warden when he went into the Silverite minds. Is this also a misunderstanding?  He didn't have time to talk to me?  For a guy that wants to talk, he sure doesn't, you know, talk.  In comparison I never kill Swiftrunner because Swiftrunner, you know, actually talks to me.    

3.  He experiments on people.  Ethically, no matter what happens as an end result, you can't always justify how he gets there.  He's a mad scientist.    

4.  Why will his plan work?  Have the intelligent darkspawn been less aggressive or hostile?  The Awakening started a Civil War amongst the Darkspawn that destroyed thousands.  

I agree it is not an easy decision, but organized Darkspawn still cause all kinds of geopolitical problems and my job is to end this Civil War.  

[Gorguz]

As you may have noticed, I have a problem with the idea of "starting a blight".

 

Blights already start, no matter what. There's no escaping it. In my opinion, you have nothing to lose by searching for different solutions. Even if they end up disastrous. Because the world is fucked either way.

 

The Grey Wardens are necessary, but their solution hasn't evolved in 2000 years. It's the same tireless oath of vigilance day-in day-out, waiting for another Blight, and then another, and then another, and then another. 

I know but giving the locations of the last gods to the darkspawn? Really? That brilliant move could have given the chance to the darkspawn to awaken ALL the gods at once. And the danger is still there. What if a mother like disciple decides to take that map and go looking for the last two gods? All because a bunch of lazy wardens hoped that a darkspawn could kill a god (and that's just ridicolous), so they didn't have to fight an other blight.

[Yinello]

I went with my gut instinct and killed him in my canon run. It was the hardest decision I had to make.

 

In the end I felt the Architect made and might still make too many mistakes that will cost too many lives. It was too much chance, too much unknown risk. Considering that the Warden Commander stayed alive and well, she would put more focus on building a proper Warden army and making sure the information of why Wardens are needed stays around through any possible medium. Basically more faith in the Grey Wardens, less in a Darkspawn with vague intentions.

[TheKomandorShepard]

The 5th Blight was coming to the world sooner or later anyways. 

 

Who knows, maybe his premature awakening was what made the 5th Blight relatively simple to begin with. It took Garahel to muster the entire world last time. And every Blight before laid waste to the planet and took literally hundreds of years to stop. The 5th Blight was just one year and didn't even cover Ferelden. What if Archdemons are meant to gather their strength for longer?

Yes but he awakened archdemon as result of his experiments and who know how if he won't do that again.

 

That wasn't thanks to him only thakns to the warden that he killed archdemon in 1 year.

 

Yes but as i said blights will end we have only 2 to go architect want to create intelligent that are way more dangerous as i even said in game pretty much we can see result of intelligent darkspawn in daa pretty much you will have never ending blight with better darkspawn.Don't count that they will sit politely on the deep roads when you give them intelligence not mention many such darkspawn were crazy and aggressive.So you destroy their only weakness disorganization and lack of motivation to start conquests without archdemon.  

[Serza]

He's been trying to stop the Blights for well over 20 years (The Calling takes place in 9:10 Dragon).

The information he got from Bregan in The Calling merely sped up the Fifth Blight's occurence.

He's a major bosh'tet in The Calling's final phase, pretty much tricking Genevieve, then ******* her when she disagrees with... methods.

 

Before, I may have trusted him. Now that I know what Maric, Duncan and Fiona know, that thing HAS to die. IF, by some small chance, he actually wants to help Thedas somewhere along the path, OTHER than turn everyone into monsters, half-Darkspawn, I do not see him TRY.

That said, I'm now angry I didn't kill him in my headcanon worldstate.

[themikefest]

Kill the Architect. I've never let him live

[Mr.House]

After what he did in The Calling, his creation of the mother which led to her creating her own faction of smart darkspawn that where attacking non-darkspawn, starting the filth blight, experimenting on wardens and draining their blood at his base and  his true motivations(as reveled in the calling)

 

Kill the dam thing and be done with it.