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What If.......Humanity didn't find the Mass Relays till after the harvest.


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Jukaga

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This is like killing someone who failed to score a perfect game at bowling. I mean, the person is still alive, so the possibility is always there. Is there like a time limit? Do the reapers have a quota? That's probably it. It's the same reason the cops sometimes give tickets for crap. Gorram reapers.


As to their parameters for instigating a harvest anything is just pure Speculation ;) , maybe a reasonable guess is when they are satisfied that certain technological developments have occurred and and not the requisite post-organic social ideals they say to themselves 'Well we've seen this before' and our pattern-happy friends get to work.

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Well if everything went to plan, we would have still been swinging slabs of iron at each other when the Citadel races were being harvested.

 

 

That's the fundamental point of the debate, the end of the cycle came later than it should by hundreds of years. Humans were not supposed to have become a spacefaring civilization when the other races were harvested. The problem was the VI that would have been known by high ranking members of the Asari government, the beacon they kept hidden would have become known to the reapers and destroyed. No beacon, no Citadel known as the Catalyst.

 

Our cycle's anomalies were the one shot to actually stop the reapers as all the right factors aligned. The reapers were an obscure theory behind the extinction cycles in the first game clearly ignored- human beings are very good at sticking their heads in the sand.



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The funniest thing about Synthesis for me, is that the Catalyst admits to annihilating a past cycle where something like Synthesis had been attempted. That cycle failed to live up to the mass-murdering A.I.'s expectations, and so it was back to the drawing board. And yet Shepard is supposed to trust that this time everything is going to be perfectly fine, for all time, and that the mass murdering A.I. overlord can be trusted to play nice with its fully intact and operational Reaper Fleet, and not use it to cause any more mass extinctions.

 

Don't mind me. I'll just be over here. Shooting this tube.

 

Imagine all those newcomer species that aren't synthesized coming up with their own synthetics somewhere off in the galaxy.

 

Catalyst: Ah sh*t, it begins! [sets reapers to kill]


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In the wiki it also says that, at the time of first contact, the yahg society was thought to be equivalent to 20th century earth... If I may make a technological comparison, this would suggest that sometime in the next century from that time, they are gonna send a manned spaceflight to their nearest moon. They are also gonna witness the rise and fall of rock 'n roll.  :D

 

Yahg Death Metal should rule.


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Yahg Death Metal should rule.

 

[100 years later, at Ereba's Music Emporium]

 

Turian teen: Dad, this music sounds like krogan are being ground alive! Dad?...are you...crying?

 

Turian father: It's just so beautiful.


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Then we were not advanced enough, and the reapers would have left us to die :P



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I don't think the 50,000 years thing is literally some sort of stopwatch, but rather a rough average of how long it takes for interstellar civilizations capable of creating advanced AIs to develop. So the Reapers probably would have left Earth alone if our spacefaring technology wasn't that much better than it is now, but if that resulted in humanity getting to a relatively advanced stage in less than 50,000 years, they would just start the harvest earlier. I tend to think that Sovereign's mission is both to do reconnaissance and lay the groundwork for the harvest *and* to decide when it's time to start it.



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I don't think so. Remember, the Reaper's don't wipe out civilizations for the laughs, it's because they've 'failed' to resolve the organic-synthetic conflict. Why wipe out something that hasn't even had the chance? The galaxy is the Catalyst's laboratory, not slaughterhouse.

 

What I meant by "ripeness" was that they'd wait until humanity and the next civilisation reached the point of creating synthetics, then attack. But from what the Catalyst said, I feel like slaughterhouse almost is more accurate. They don't have any solutions to the creation of Synthetics, so they basically just wait for it to happen since it's apparently inevitable, and then kill kill kill. Catalyst gave up on the idea of a solution before harvesting the Leviathans, all it does now is apply some organisation to the self-repeating problem.



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"Your world's will be our laboratories."

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I wonder if any species would have left any information that would help us fight the reapers?



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"Your world's will be our laboratories."

 

Yeah he says that, form what we see "barren wastelands" would be more accurate. In any case, I'm sure the Reapers might do some experimenting here and there to learn whatever it is they might want to, but the result's the same, a load of empty planets and people processed into milkshakes to feed baby Reaper larvae.



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I wonder if any species would have left any information that would help us fight the reapers?

 

Javik might still be in stasis on Eden Prime, given that it was apparently uninhabited aside from human colonists.



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Javik might still be in stasis on Eden Prime, given that it was apparently uninhabited aside from human colonists.

Depends on when and if he is found.  I am doubting his stasis pod could last much longer.  As for any of the species leaving behind something.  I am sure the Asari and the Salarians would do so, I know for a fact that Liara would.  As for my original question, I am going to stick with.............Once humanity reached a certain point of technology, I am sure the Reapers would return.  And unlike this cycle, I am betting that the Reapers would have taken back full control of the citadel and made sure it stayed that way.

 

What made the current cycle unique was all the little details.  Protheans uploading a virus to the Keepers and creating the conduit, humanity joining the galactic community ahead of schedule, Shepard and his/her crew.  It was these little differences that made it posible for us to fight the Reapers in the first place.  SO I am betting that even if we where not culled with this cycle, it would have made little difference and the cycle would continue with our eradication, with the newest Reaper being the Asari.