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[seacrest3000]

Sometimes I drop into a gold game in progress with no equips and I can still extract most of the time. Will platinum be a problem if I use the best equips available?

[Deerber]

Gold can be harder than platinum.

 

The biggest difference I find about platinum is that lag is gonna **** you up even more badly.

[Melee or Die]

No difficulty should be tough with one decent squadmate. 2 good squadmates and you got yourself a pair of crutches, 3 and you got yourself a full-on power chair (Professor X status)! So, Platinum shouldn't be rough if you can extract on Gold--especially wit' good equipment & a solid build/team. You'll be racing to spawns for glory on all difficulties, in no time!

[EnemySpinach]

In my opinion, once you have good guns and gear, and are used to it, Platinum is actually easier than gold.

I know this sounds completely and utterly bonkers, but hear me out.

Gold has more enemy synergy, IMO. Compare fighting 3 banshees at once to a bunch of husks and marauders. Banshees take longer to kill and are more intimidating, sure, but you really can't deny that the marauders are more likely to wreck your day and all it takes is for that one husk to get close to pin you while the Marauders open fire. The husks are super easy to kill, definitely, but it's about how the units work together.

Basically, Platinum often just comes down to being Boss Rush Deluxe, with later waves barely throwing any small fry at you and just bombarding you with Hunters/Pyros/Bombers/Primes/Engineers/Phantoms/Dragoons/Atlas/Brutes/Banshees (Yes, all at once; Platinum mashes up the enemy factions.) Sure, the banshees and phantoms will force you out of cover and into the line of fire for the turrets, ravagers, and primes, but once you know the maps and where the engineers drop their turrets (there's set areas they tend to focus them in, it is NOT haphazard) it's just a matter of having enough offensive heft to deal with these threats quickly and efficiently.

[TheNightSlasher]

Gold without equipment.

[SoundWraith]

You'll be fine. Don't even need your very best consumables, just make sure there's synergy btw your choice of picks. off the top of my head, going for extended mag instead of the piercing mod will serve you better on most ARs, since you can make up with AP ammo easily. Gear and armour will come down to your preferences and how you built your character. 

[Excella Gionne]

In Platinum, you have to deal with the annoyance of every faction. It's even harder for every other person besides the host, because of latency. Weapon and kit will determine if you can actually go into either Gold or Platinum without any equipment besides your Gear. If your kit can deal a lot of damage without consumables, then you'll be okay, but if your kit needs additional equipment to actually have a decent DPS, you're not going to do so well.

 

I, most of the time, extract when falling into ongoing lobbies on Gold, but that depends on the host's latency, faction, and map. Before I join a random match, I make sure I have a kit that can go without consumables equipped. Same goes for Platinum, and since I'm on lolpeasetree, I have to be careful with a match against Collectors. Most of the time I drop out of the match if I see that it's Collectors.

[Excella Gionne]

Easiest kit for me to go into a Platinum or Gold random lobby is Arc Pistol Drell Assassin, but sometimes Venom Drell Adept. 

[Fortack]

I've never understood the weird idea to not equip consumables. The only thing it accomplishes are longer, tedious, and boring games.

 

I always use consumables. I even use HP/SMG/AR/SR amps regularly. Not because they improve the Claymoar's awesomeness, but because I got an infinite supply of those useless items anyway.

 

Do yourself and your teammates a favor and gear up before searching for games. If you're really interested in philosophizing about the deeper meaning of consumable usage on the higher difficulty levels go solo.

[Loufi]

Gold without equipment.

[capn233]

I agree, use consumables.

[J. Peterman]

lolgold

[RopeDrink]

I've never understood the weird idea to not equip consumables. The only thing it accomplishes are longer, tedious, and boring games.

 

I always use consumables. I even use HP/SMG/AR/SR amps regularly. Not because they improve the Claymoar's awesomeness, but because I got an infinite supply of those useless items anyway.

 

Do yourself and your teammates a favor and gear up before searching for games. If you're really interested in philosophizing about the deeper meaning of consumable usage on the higher difficulty levels go solo.

 

While the above is true, it tends to blur the line when 90% of games you enter throw you into a match that has already begun on-top of lagging out or being repeatedly put out of sync. If I join a match and my character decides to keep skipping 1meter to the left/right repeatedly, I know straight away that I'm not only going to be useless in the game anyway, but my consumes have been used for nothing.

 

There have been SO many times I've cracked out my best consumes [ they are NOT in as ready supply for me as they are for others as I am still trying to upgrade my kit(s) ], so there is NOTHING more annoying than gearing up just for those items to go to waste within 15seconds of joining thanks to the game being unplayable. This hasn't happened to me much, if at all, when I am present in the lobby for the start of the game, yet it seems to happen repeatedly (9/10 times) if I'm thrown into a started match.

 

Despite this, I still use my consumables, even if they're level II or III, just for the sake of having SOMETHING, but again - Losing items to this issue is not fun for anyone, no matter what rank you're playing at.

 

I can totally understand people leaving their consumes off until the lobby is full and people are waiting to roll, saving them against sync issues or lagging out - And if that person happens to have joined a started game and put some actual thought into being able to play effectively WITHOUT consumes to help, then I'd call that 'considerate' rather than complain about it.

[cato potato]

In my opinion, once you have good guns and gear, and are used to it, Platinum is actually easier than gold.

I know this sounds completely and utterly bonkers, but hear me out.

Gold has more enemy synergy, IMO. Compare fighting 3 banshees at once to a bunch of husks and marauders. Banshees take longer to kill and are more intimidating, sure, but you really can't deny that the marauders are more likely to wreck your day and all it takes is for that one husk to get close to pin you while the Marauders open fire. The husks are super easy to kill, definitely, but it's about how the units work together.

Basically, Platinum often just comes down to being Boss Rush Deluxe, with later waves barely throwing any small fry at you and just bombarding you with Hunters/Pyros/Bombers/Primes/Engineers/Phantoms/Dragoons/Atlas/Brutes/Banshees (Yes, all at once; Platinum mashes up the enemy factions.) Sure, the banshees and phantoms will force you out of cover and into the line of fire for the turrets, ravagers, and primes, but once you know the maps and where the engineers drop their turrets (there's set areas they tend to focus them in, it is NOT haphazard) it's just a matter of having enough offensive heft to deal with these threats quickly and efficiently.

 

It's really, really not, at least in my experience. I prefer Gold and that's what I play most often but I don't try to pretend that it's more difficult than Platinum.

I can solo or duo Gold with any setup with very little chance of failure and Gold pugs very rarely don't reach extraction. I can solo or duo Platinum with a much more limited number of setups with a decent chance of failure and Platinum pugs fail to reach extraction much more often than Gold.

 

Also, I'm not sure if your comparison of 'fighting 3 banshees at once to a bunch of husks and marauders' is only to illustrate your point or not, but 3 banshees are never on the field at the same time on Platinum (or any difficulty). Given that choice though, I'd much rather face the marauders and husks. Banshees push you around the map but against mooks it's the players who push them around.

[Catastrophy]

Platinum is harder because the game clock ticks faster.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

*some snippage*

 

I can totally understand people leaving their consumes off until the lobby is full and people are waiting to roll, saving them against sync issues or lagging out - And if that person happens to have joined a started game and put some actual thought into being able to play effectively WITHOUT consumes to help, then I'd call that 'considerate' rather than complain about it.

 

There's a compromise tactic some of us use, depending on available consumables.

 

I usually equip level 1 or 2 gear (whatever I have an overabundance of) before I quick search. If I'm thrown into a game in progress, I'll decide on the fly whether to stick it out (Wave 3 half-way through the objective? That's good timing, I might stay. Collectors? So long, good luck!) If I quit the game, I only lose low-level gear that I have a lot of. If I stick around, at least I have some low-level gear to fill in gaps, if I needed AP ammo for the gun, or something.

 

If I end up in a lobby, I can scan the lobby, and upgrade my gear to higher levels, now that I've seen who's in the game, and what the lobby settings are.

[EnemySpinach]

It's really, really not, at least in my experience. I prefer Gold and that's what I play most often but I don't try to pretend that it's more difficult than Platinum.

I can solo or duo Gold with any setup with very little chance of failure and Gold pugs very rarely don't reach extraction. I can solo or duo Platinum with a much more limited number of setups with a decent chance of failure and Platinum pugs fail to reach extraction much more often than Gold.

 

Also, I'm not sure if your comparison of 'fighting 3 banshees at once to a bunch of husks and marauders' is only to illustrate your point or not, but 3 banshees are never on the field at the same time on Platinum (or any difficulty). Given that choice though, I'd much rather face the marauders and husks. Banshees push you around the map but against mooks it's the players who push them around.

I used banshees as an oversimplified example; a better comparison would be multiples of all the top tier units. I merely used "Banshees" as a representative.

 

As for Gold actually being easier than Platinum, I speak from personal experience when I say this:

I used to play exclusively Platinum once upon a time. The credits were better, so why not, am I right? I had it down to "perfect" (no consumables used) matches, unless maybe I was using a missile to save an ally. I was rarely without ONE good ally, sure, but the vast majority of the time it was just us duoing + two completely inept idiots spamming me with messages like "help im lv1 wat do." At first, Platinum had me struggling just a little but, but I adapted quickly.

I then went back to gold because of some less experienced friends, and...

I

 

GOT

 

WRECKED.

 

However, after re-acclimating myself to gold and then doing a little Platinum later, I found it was easier to adapt to. I'd use 4 of my gels in a match, sure, but not all 6 like going from Platinum to Gold. Maybe it's because Gold has more enemies that actively seek to stomp you and thus you have less time to get revived, but I don't remember going down more than a few times per Platinum match back in my old Platinum days.

 

I could just be a complete and utter freak of nature who finds Platinum easier for some bonkers reason, sure. But the thing is, I don't consider myself a good player by any stretch! And here's why: I actually have a mental condition that greatly affects my physical skills with reasonably minor impacts on my mental state, and as such, I've fully plateau'd off; I will never be in the top percentage of players or anything. And if someone with my limits actually finds Platinum easier, it really makes me wonder about it, you know?

And no. I don't want to go into details about my condition. I'm sick of explaining myself to people who think "Oh, your parents just didn't beat you enough as a kid" and other such wtf misconceptions about mental health.

[cato potato]

I used banshees as an oversimplified example; a better comparison would be multiples of all the top tier units. I merely used "Banshees" as a representative.

 

As for Gold actually being easier than Platinum, I speak from personal experience when I say this:

I used to play exclusively Platinum once upon a time. The credits were better, so why not, am I right? I had it down to "perfect" (no consumables used) matches, unless maybe I was using a missile to save an ally. I was rarely without ONE good ally, sure, but the vast majority of the time it was just us duoing + two completely inept idiots spamming me with messages like "help im lv1 wat do." At first, Platinum had me struggling just a little but, but I adapted quickly.

I then went back to gold because of some less experienced friends, and...

I

 

GOT

 

WRECKED.

 

However, after re-acclimating myself to gold and then doing a little Platinum later, I found it was easier to adapt to. I'd use 4 of my gels in a match, sure, but not all 6 like going from Platinum to Gold. Maybe it's because Gold has more enemies that actively seek to stomp you and thus you have less time to get revived, but I don't remember going down more than a few times per Platinum match back in my old Platinum days.

 

I could just be a complete and utter freak of nature who finds Platinum easier for some bonkers reason, sure. But the thing is, I don't consider myself a good player by any stretch! And here's why: I actually have a mental condition that greatly affects my physical skills with reasonably minor impacts on my mental state, and as such, I've fully plateau'd off; I will never be in the top percentage of players or anything. And if someone with my limits actually finds Platinum easier, it really makes me wonder about it, you know?

And no. I don't want to go into details about my condition. I'm sick of explaining myself to people who think "Oh, your parents just didn't beat you enough as a kid" and other such wtf misconceptions about mental health.

 

Well, I didn't make any assumptions about you regarding your mental health. But you should feel free to keep making assumptions about me and my imagined reaction to reading about your mental health.

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

There's a compromise tactic some of us use, depending on available consumables.

 

I usually equip level 1 or 2 gear (whatever I have an overabundance of) before I quick search. If I'm thrown into a game in progress, I'll decide on the fly whether to stick it out (Wave 3 half-way through the objective? That's good timing, I might stay. Collectors? So long, good luck!) If I quit the game, I only lose low-level gear that I have a lot of. If I stick around, at least I have some low-level gear to fill in gaps, if I needed AP ammo for the gun, or something.

 

If I end up in a lobby, I can scan the lobby, and upgrade my gear to higher levels, now that I've seen who's in the game, and what the lobby settings are.

 

This.

 

Apart from that, once you do have a good supply of consumables, you might as well use them, since there's onyl one thing that you can do with them, ever: USE THEM TO INCREASE YOUR OWN ENJOYMENT OF THE GAME.

 

Sorry for shouting, but it needed to be said.

[EnemySpinach]

Well, I didn't make any assumptions about you regarding your mental health. But you should feel free to keep making assumptions about me and my imagined reaction to reading about your mental health.

I didn't mean that specifically for you. I merely wanted to place that comment at the bottom as a disuader to anyone who might want more information. Sorry for not specifying I meant that in general.

[DemiserofD]

I find platinum harder. I often run gold games without any equipment and still manage to topscore, albeit probably by not as much. If I've got a bit of lag, I can survive, generally.

 

The other day though, I was playing plat with just a tiiiiiny bit of lag, and every time I got BRUSHED I went down. No chance to recover, just instant death. All from just a tiny bit of lag, maybe 80 ms. Of course, it would have been easier if I'd been playing a class with more than 500 shields, but I think that's beside the point.

[Dalakaar]

Depends on the kit I s'pose. Some are more reliant on equipment than others.

[PHOEN1XK1NG]

Plat is all about DPS vs. Armor. Plat with consumables is easier than Gold naked.

High DPS weapons/powers make everything easy though, so maybe my thought isn't valid.

Meh...

[DaemionMoadrin]

I don't think I played more than 10 Plat games. They feel wrong to me. Mixing up all the factions pretty much destroys the last remnants of my suspension of disbelief. I don't think they are particularly difficult if you have a good team and play a kit that can take out bosses quickly.

 

I played 2000+ Gold games and depending on circumstances those can be much harder because (and that's just my opinion) they are less predictable. Plus, only the mooks like Assault Troopers and Cannibals throw grenades that kill most classes instantly. You have less husks and (possessed) abominations in Plat games.

 

Best example, I just had a Ghost Hazard/Reaper game and trying to revive people was hell. Out in the rain, close to Banshees and Brutes, with Marauders waiting to snipe you... fun times.

 

Btw... I -always- use consumables. If I don't have the proper weapon mods or ammo, then I switch to another kit that can survive with lvl1 consumables or uses different ones like Strength Enhancer or Targeting VI.

I hate nothing more than a host leaving and losing my consumables after the wave restarts. Especially when it was something I relied on like ammo detonations or an Adrenaline Module.

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

 

I hate nothing more than a host leaving and losing my consumables after the wave restarts.

 

 

It's normally the case that if the host leaves, and you stay in the game, you still keep your consumables after the end of the game.