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Briala/Sera The Masked Wild Card?


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#26
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How certain can we be concerning a game that hasn’t even released?

Well, this thread is speculation, no? As are the majority of comments in response; there's no certainty involved. But, for what it's worth, I will say your previous post does make a couple sound arguments. I'm just not convinced that Briala has anything to do with Sera, having read TME and being a Sera fan myself.



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I'm pretty sure that if someone in Orlais had Sera's hairstyle(?) they'd kill them on the spot, so...



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I agree there is no way Sera and Briala are the same person , but I am interested to see if the Friends of the Red Jenny organization is connected to Briala's resistance...which is not certain but way more plausible.
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This is like saying Isabela was Leliana in disguise because they're both bisexual human female rogues.


I remember a thread where someone was super pissed because he was so sure that Leliana had cheated on his warden with Hawke in DA2...
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But where was Briala at the end of TME? She had just lost the love of her life, her mentor, her hopes, and in large part the framework in which she viewed her entire world. The Dalish elves were not who she thought they were, her love was not what she had hoped for, and her pivotal moment in her life had ended up being a lie, simply part of the game. She finds herself with access to the Eluvians and a new goal of uniting her people through a purposely drug out chaos. Events like these change a person. No mentor to guide her, no love to devote herself to. What does one become when she suddenly must find her way on her own. Perhaps a different person? Perhaps on purpose?


Those who are stuck in the middle? A group who has been for centuries are the elves, and I think it's a false notion to think that she only cares about the city elves and the dalish. Her new found access allows her to be a robin hood of sorts, everywhere at once, but never found. To help not just her people but all those that will suffer due to those in power using them as pawns seems like a natural progression in her end goal. After all it wasn't as black and white as the Dalish (let the humans kill each other off and we'll just wait), she wasn't racist or blind to injustice, she's seen enough racism in her life. What better way to free the elves than to get the people on your side?

 

At the end of TME, Briala comes to the realization that she alone can be relied on to do something for the elves in Orlais.  Better yet, she finally has the means to do it.

 

I think she's the opposite of a 'lost soul' at this time...you could say she found herself in her new and clear purpose in life.  

 

Why would she become a completely different person and leave behind her life goal to join the Inquisition?


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It's possible that Sera is one of the agents Briala intended to recruit at the end of TME but I really very much doubt that she's Briala using a different name.  



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this is as far fetched as the whole Sera is Velanna's sister theory, why are so many people thinking Sera is someone else instead of what she really is, a whole new character <.< 


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Isn't Briala described with a darker skin tone and with brown hair? i don't remember i haven't read the book in a few months.

 

But i do see the comparison with two. incredibly skilled archers. both rogues. both described wearing very light armor.



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It's possible that Sera is one of the agents Briala intended to recruit at the end of TME but I really very much doubt that she's Briala using a different name.


This.

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Hm, you've got me thinking - what if Alistair is Loghain in disguise? They're both straight human sword-and-board warriors. I mean, they look and sound a bit different but maybe Loghain disguised himself to infiltrate the surviving Grey Wardens.

And they can never be in the party at the same time. All that conflict between them must be a representation of Loghain's inner conflict about the Wardens!

Yep, seems legit.
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I doubt this, Briala seems to be someone who would fit more of an antagonistic role when we hopefully address the Orlesian Civil War, a plot character we face. That's not to say that I don't see any connection between her and Sera, I expect Sera to quite vocal on the matter of city elf treatment when we face the matter, especially to my Trevelyan, as they're about as downtrodden as they get. Also, given Sera's link to the Friends of Red Jenny I'm certain something like this would have come up in the book. Its unlikely she just "decided to join" one day as our past encounters with the Friends has been through a close door (DA:O) or through a liaison we didn't even was a Friend (DA:2); so I doubt the group is that easy to join in short time period.

 

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I hope not, we need as many strong female elven characters as we can get.  Making them the same person just cuts down on that


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No



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Hm, you've got me thinking - what if Alistair is Loghain in disguise? They're both straight human sword-and-board warriors. I mean, they look and sound a bit different but maybe Loghain disguised himself to infiltrate the surviving Grey Wardens.

And they can never be in the party at the same time. All that conflict between them must be a representation of Loghain's inner conflict about the Wardens!

Yep, seems legit.

 

Your comparison of Loghain and Alistair is a very poor one given that we know both their ages, their backstories, their graphically represented appearances, and the full extent of their personalities, but I understand your "look how ridiculous this notion is" use of the notion. The difference being that we know literally nothing about Sera save for a short description, pictures, and a few short snippets of spoken dialogue in a couple of the gameplay trailers. Not even her age has been officially released. If further official information exists let me know.

 

Clearly the large majority of those responding to this are convinced that the comparison with Sera doesn't fall in line with how Briala came off in TME, but I am not. As I said before, there's not enough to convince me yet. As more official information is released my views regarding this will surely shift one way or the other. I will say that as I've already admitted the likelyhood of them being the same person is low. However, I don't think it's at the level of scoffing and out right refusal that seems to be the fan consensus :P. But to each their own.



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This is like saying Isabela was Leliana in disguise because they're both bisexual human female rogues.

Which would make that threesome in Origins very interesting indeed...



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She's just that good at disguises.



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their ages, their backstories, their graphically represented appearances, and the full extent of their personalities


1. Age is more easily disguised than skin color.
2. We have a long backstory on Briala. In particular, she was raised in Orlais and almost certainly has an Orlesian accent, and she's all about sacrificing the few for the good of many. We know Sera's accent, and we know she would be violently opposed to everything Briala did and what she stood for.
3. Briala is described as having tan to dark skin. Sera has very pale skin. Consider for a moment the (justified) uproar that would result if Bioware said "lol nope, we decided to give Briala light skin in-game."
4. Briala is about the long game, the big picture. Sera is about "what's right now." Like many of the city elves Briala came in contact with, Sera thinks those in power are pitifully out of touch. That's not the opinion of someone who holds the key to the entire network of Eluvians.

In short, Alistair is more alike to Loghain than Sera is to Briala, even based on our limited knowledge of Sera.
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As I said before, there's not enough to convince me yet.

 

The game will prove you wrong, just so you wait.



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The game will prove you wrong, just so you wait.

 

I'm ok with that :). Such is the nature of conjecture.



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I'm ok with that :). Such is the nature of conjecture.

 

It's not conjecture, it's twisting what we know about characters to fuel a far-fetched theory that, when you get to the bottom of it, is just based on the fact that they're both lesbian elf rogues.



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It's not conjecture, it's twisting what we know about characters to fuel a far-fetched theory that, when you get to the bottom of it, is just based on the fact that they're both lesbian elf rogues.

 

If that's what you're taking from what I've said then there's clearly no point and me continuing talking with you about this. I've made my arguments concerning this idea and the basis does not lie within sex, sexuality, or character class. We don't know much at all about Sera and saying anything more about Briala is repeating what I've already said in previous posts. Thank you for your input though.



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We don't know much at all about Sera

 
"Strap together years of capricious whims and brash decisions and you have Sera"

"Sera’s only concern is having fun, and should something get in the way of that pursuit, she’s quick to put an arrow in it"
 
In what reality does this apply to Briala ?


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#48
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You're right, it doesn't.



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I'm reading so many damn spoilers right now. XD