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Well, I thought Origins/DA2 spoilers. Nothing to spoil there for me, I thought.

 

Then, suddenly a DA:I leak.

 

F. My. Life.

Seriously.

 

Sorry you got spoiled, by you were warned. I think I will capitalize the spoilers in the thread title, just to make it clear.

 

As far as I'm concerned, any and all leaks are free game in this thread. The Corypheus one especially.



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Sorry you got spoiled, by you were warned. I think I will capitalize the spoilers in the thread title, just to make it clear.

 

As far as I'm concerned, any and all leaks are free game in this thread. The Corypheus one especially.

Did they confirmed leak?

Because as far i remember there were multiplayer achievements and bio said there won't be multi achievements.



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Did they confirmed leak?

Because as far i remember there were multiplayer achievements and bio said there won't be multi achievements.

 

They have not confirmed it, no. I doubt we'll know until we play the game in November. I consider the leak authentic, for the most part. Still acceptable discussion bait in a spoiler thread, though. Afterall, we're all just bidding our time until November. Makes a person want to pull an Eric Cartman and get frozen in an avalanche until the United Atheist Alliance and the Allied Atheist League have embroiled themselves in a war against the Otters.

 

Not sure about them saying there would not be multiplayer achievements, though. Doubtless, even if the leak is authentic it wasn't final.



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According to the leaked Acheivment list, corypheus is a boss that the player has to defeat.

 

I think that corypheus might  posses the HOF or OW body.  It would be a way out of explaining why the warden does not look the same.

 

This wouldn't surprise me if this happens.  Might be the reason Wardens are disappearing in the South like "Last Flight"
mentioned. With Cory's taint and a warden's I don't think a body possessed by Cory would last very long, thus the warden body hopping by Cory. 

 

After seeing that one video with the Inquisitor and his/her twin in fade sequence where it talks about the Elder One coming I thought this might be our Warden also (the one where it shows the two Inquisitors) and that dragon looked like an Arch Demon to me.  

 

Also I've had the idea after ME came out for Wardens who went through the Eluvians with Morrigan - if he is stuck in the chambers underground and she left the Warden there even though Alistair says the male wardens who romanced Morrigan was back in Denerim or should be by Act 3 in DA2.  

 

Ops, forgot anybody have a link to the achievement list?  I haven't seen that yet or pm it to me please.

 

@ OP awesome thread title!  



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I remember seeing someone speculate that if Corypheus is controlling the Wardens, maybe he's using a similar "song" technique like the one that draws the darkspawn to seek out the Old Gods. With that said, Avernus managed to live for several centuries without succumbing to the Calling, so it's possible that whoever drank the results of his research *raises hand* might be immune to that sort of mind control.


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Well, I guess it sucks to be me!

 

Ah, whatever. I should've seen the Cory thing coming, anyhow.



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So DAI is taking place in 9:42 Dragon? So the Mage-Templar war has been going on for 5 years?? Damn. Anyway, I love the Grey a Wardens and can't wait to see what their role is in DAI. I hope we get to see the Hero of Ferelden and I am interested in who the blonde Warden is next to Hawke, he's in Warden scout armoryet he has a sword.

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This wouldn't surprise me if this happens.  Might be the reason Wardens are disappearing in the South like "Last Flight"
mentioned. With Cory's taint and a warden's I don't think a body possessed by Cory would last very long, thus the warden body hopping by Cory. 
 
After seeing that one video with the Inquisitor and his/her twin in fade sequence where it talks about the Elder One coming I thought this might be our Warden also (the one where it shows the two Inquisitors) and that dragon looked like an Arch Demon to me.  
 
Also I've had the idea after ME came out for Wardens who went through the Eluvians with Morrigan - if he is stuck in the chambers underground and she left the Warden there even though Alistair says the male wardens who romanced Morrigan was back in Denerim or should be by Act 3 in DA2.  
 
Ops, forgot anybody have a link to the achievement list?  I haven't seen that yet or pm it to me please.
 
@ OP awesome thread title!

That dragon was the Elder One. Is he an old God? Who knows but it is doubtful. I think we will see our Warden in DAI but it has yet to be announced.

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I think one of the biggest indicators of what is happening with the Wardens is this concept art of Blackwall.

 

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Here's Blackwall, who seems to be taking off his Warden's Oath, symbolically severing himself from the Wardens. In the background, several men are dead and another man seems to have been spared execution only by his hangman's rope being severed. Possibly by the 2-handed blade embedded in the gallows.

 

Who were the men to be executed, and why? Was Blackwall among them? What have the Wardens done to make him leave? It's raining, so you know it's supposed to be sad. Have the Wardens betrayed their oaths, or have they decided to remain neutral, even as the Breach poses a threat as great as the Darkspawn? Whatever has occurred, why is Blackwall not a part of it?

 

So many questions upon questions, I fee like it's an episode of Lost. The question is, where is Matthew Fox?


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Oooo, I hadn't thought of that. I don't think they'd do it, but it would be pretty cool.

 Yeah, if that did do it, it would be interesting to see if they could pull it off. 

If Corypheus did possess the Hero of Ferelden, I wonder how Alistair/Morrigan/Leliana would react if they found out? Megaton punch to the feels if they had to put down their beloved.

I think that the LI killing them could happen, and fans would get their reunited with their li moment.

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I really thought people were just throwing out wild rumors with corypheus being a major player, as he was a dlc villain, but after reading last flight (and the lack of present day info), it seems more and more likely they are going to make him into a major villain.... 

 

I was really hoping LF would give us some insight to what the wardens are up to....  the only thing we found out is that 2 strongholds worth of wardens have deserted their posts....  that is all we found out....  now this leads me to think it is corypheus at this point.... however it could be something along the lines as what is happening with the red templars (IE the wardens went nuts after finding some red lyrium), but that is a long shot.... (why would they do that with 2 groups, redundancy gets you nowhere).

 

And if they make my warden possessed, i will get mad.  I would rather them write him off as him going on his calling the end, then make him possessed by corypheus....



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I think that the LI killing them could happen, and fans would get their reunited with their li moment.

 

Oh....if that happens.....

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I think one of the biggest indicators of what is happening with the Wardens is this concept art of Blackwall.
 
FVx6K55.jpg
 
Here's Blackwall, who seems to be taking off his Warden's Oath, symbolically severing himself from the Wardens. In the background, several men are dead and another man seems to have been spared execution only by his hangman's rope being severed. Possibly by the 2-handed blade embedded in the gallows.
 
Who were the men to be executed, any why? Was Blackwall among them? What have the Wardens done to make him leave? It's raining, so you know it's supposed to be sad. Have the Wardens betrayed their oaths, or have they decided to remain neutral, even as the Breach poses a threat as great as the Darkspawn? Whatever has occurred, why is Blackwall not a part of it?
 
So many questions upon questions, I fee like it's an episode of Lost. The question is, where is Matthew Fox?

I think it means the Wardens have changed (corruption among their ranks) so many Wardens are leaving.

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I wasn't worried about the Hero of Ferelden until reading this thread. Hopefully, the Maker's gaze is still on him. Wherever he is. 

 

I remember seeing someone speculate that if Corypheus is controlling the Wardens, maybe he's using a similar "song" technique like the one that draws the darkspawn to seek out the Old Gods. With that said, Avernus managed to live for several centuries without succumbing to the Calling, so it's possible that whoever drank the results of his research *raises hand* might be immune to that sort of mind control.

 

I hope you're right. If the Ferelden Wardens somehow have an immunity to Corypheus' Calling due to their dealings with the Architect and Avernus I'll do a back flip, record it, and post it here.

 

This is what my world state's Warden roster looks like, by order of recruitment:

 

  • Commander Cousland
  • Alistair Theirin (king of Ferelden)
  • Loghain Mac Tir
  • Anders (deserted)
  • Oghren Kondrat
  • Nathaniel Howe
  • Sigrun
  • Velanna
  • Bethany Hawke

 

I'd like to see all them (except for King Alistair) gathered up for an epic battle.


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*Snip*
  • Bethany Hawke

 

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It always feels so sad making her a Warden. She loses that innocent part of her character by joining them. Carver just becomes less of a jacka**.



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 Yeah, if that did do it, it would be interesting to see if they could pull it off.  I think that the LI killing them could happen, and fans would get their reunited with their li moment.

Considering the devs said Zevran isn't returning, they are definitely getting left out. Lol at Zevran romancers getting the shaft yet again.



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So question:  Is Avernus actually a gray warden?  I was under the impression he wasn't actually a warden, but just sided with them because King D-hole was an ass?

 

I haven't played Wardens Peak in a while though, so I might be misremembering some of the convos the HoF and Avernus have.  Or, I just rejected reality completely... that happens often.



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Spoiler

 

It always feels so sad making her a Warden. She loses that innocent part of her character by joining them. Carver just becomes less of a jacka**.

 

Both her father and brother died to the Blight. Her whining means nothing to me. Also I'd like for a reason to allow Anders to live. Owing him Bethany's life is a convenient way to do that.



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Both her father and brother died to the Blight. Her whining means nothing to me. Also I'd like for a reason to allow Anders to live. Owing him Bethany's life is a convenient way to do that.

On the flip side, if Bethany's in the Circle, you have a good reason to kill him.



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On the flip side, if Bethany's in the Circle, you have a good reason to kill him.

 

Less interesting Thedas. I'd rather have someone for Sebastian to scapegoat and hunt down. Knifing him in Kirkwall kills my chances of seeing that happen.


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I wonder if the reason why Hawke is seen with a warden is because s/he searching for the Warden as well of the Warden did the US then she could still be searching for answers regarding Corypheus and intelligent darkspawn.

Corypheus is mentioned in the time line afterall.

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If given the chance, I will take those baby griffons for the Inquisition.



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On the flip side, if Bethany's in the Circle, you have a good reason to kill him.

There are couple more good reasons to kill Anders even if Bethany is not in the Circle.



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Both her father and brother died to the Blight. Her whining means nothing to me. Also I'd like for a reason to allow Anders to live. Owing him Bethany's life is a convenient way to do that.

 

Considering I have had her killed in the Deep Roads just so that I have no reasons not to side with the Templars at the Finale, I can hardly judge this reasoning.



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*How Could You? Kitty*

 

It always feels so sad making her a Warden. She loses that innocent part of her character by joining them. Carver just becomes less of a jacka**.

 

Hey, Warden Bethany ends up being pretty bad*ss. Much stronger, bit of spunk. She is a bit sad, but still at peace with her life. One of my favorite fanarts has a Warden Bethany(I based a Hawke entirely on this art)

 

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