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#51
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I am also quite interested on how we will become a reaver in DAI as well since where are we going to get dragon blood?


As far as the blood goes, you can use blood from dragonlings. It may not make you as strong of a reaver who drank, say, high dragon blood, but it would do the job.

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I think the reason why there's no blood mage specialization is because of a story reason, we cannot be the blood mage for whatever reason due to what happens to the inquisitor. .

 

And that is where you find the answer, pc will be too tied to chantry and divine. Her henchmen make up most of the Inq teammates. The "choices" available are going to be tilted towards the chantry. Herald of Andraste can´t be about mage feedom.



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This actually grants power, rather than just powerfully punching the user in the organs.

I'm guessing you've never tried to fight someone on crack or LSD. Having seen this personally, I can tell you I wouldn't recommend it. 



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As far as the blood goes, you can use blood from dragonlings. It may not make you as strong of a reaver who drank, say, high dragon blood, but it would do the job.

I was actually thinking that its going to be high dragon blood that the reaver class will drink anyway we will see when the game comes out. 



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I'm guessing you've never tried to fight someone on crack or LSD. Having seen this personally, I can tell you I wouldn't recommend it. 

Fair point to some degree, but I didn't think LSD made people violent. Are you sure you're not thinking of PCP?



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Fair point to some degree, but I didn't think LSD made people violent. Are you sure you're not thinking of PCP?

Nah, though PCP has similar effects. Everyone reacts to everything differently. I'm sure there's some really chill PCP users out there too. 



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Nah, though PCP has similar effects. Everyone reacts to everything differently. I'm sure there's some really chill PCP users out there too. 

I thought the whole point of taking PCP was to get as hype and messed up as possible.
 



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I thought the whole point of taking PCP was to get as hype and messed up as possible.


Nah man nah.

It amps you up and it alters brain chemistry to a few degrees but it doesn't make a person violent by default...or so I've been told...

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You're being paranoid.  Bioware wouldn't tell us that we can choose to side with either group if siding with the mages resulted in a game over due to Cullen immediately putting his sword through the PC's chest.

Oh I would so like to see him try. For two games now there has been hints of going toe to toe with the smug b*$£ard and I for one would dearly love to find out who actually skewers who



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Oh I would so like to see him try. For two games now there has been hints of going toe to toe with the smug b*$£ard and I for one would dearly love to find out who actually skewers who

I don't think you're going to be allowed to kill him. That would leave you without a military adviser, and so you will at least not be able to do this before the endgame. (And since I remember reading that the game doesn't actually end at the endgame, you probably just can't do this.)


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And that is where you find the answer, pc will be too tied to chantry and divine. Her henchmen make up most of the Inq teammates. The "choices" available are going to be tilted towards the chantry. Herald of Andraste can´t be about mage feedom.

All I hear is crying over a fact that is unproven. 



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I don't think you're going to be allowed to kill him. That would leave you without a military adviser, and so you will at least not be able to do this before the endgame. (And since I remember reading that the game doesn't actually end at the endgame, you probably just can't do this.)

 

 

Cullen would be rather poor military advisor. He is a templar who knows only how to guard mages, not to fight conventional war with medieval armies. But then again, pc is divines puppet so the only military advisor available is a templar. Fitting.



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All I hear is crying over a fact that is unproven. 

 

Just wait and see.



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Cullen would be rather poor military advisor. He is a templar who knows only how to guard mages, not to fight conventional war with medieval armies. But then again, pc is divines puppet so the only military advisor available is a templar. Fitting.

The first two sentences are apparently provably untrue, since he apparently got into the Inquisition by stamping out the fighting in Kirkwall that Hawke couldn't take care of. And as everybody keeps telling you, the third sentence is unproven.



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Just wait and see.

 

I will smear this in your face if I'm right which I'm pretty certain I am.



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I don't think you're going to be allowed to kill him. That would leave you without a military adviser, and so you will at least not be able to do this before the endgame. (And since I remember reading that the game doesn't actually end at the endgame, you probably just can't do this.)

No I suspect you are spot on, but for a moment I was taken back to the scene in DA" where he's all ready to throw down over taking Bethany to the Circle and I'm thinking "bring it" and the game is going "now lets all hold hands and be friends"



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You're being paranoid. Bioware wouldn't tell us that we can choose to side with either group if siding with the mages resulted in a game over due to Cullen immediately putting his sword through the PC's chest.


He's a known troll, just ignore him

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No I suspect you are spot on, but for a moment I was taken back to the scene in DA" where he's all ready to throw down over taking Bethany to the Circle and I'm thinking "bring it" and the game is going "now lets all hold hands and be friends"

And the player was going "choo choo choo."



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He's a known troll, just ignore him

I guess that would explain his persistence, but I'd like to think most forumites can be reasoned with...

 

I've been reading some of these comments and I'm at a loss for words.  If Ukki is serious, then apparently he won't be convinced until November 18th, no matter what we say.



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I guess that would explain his persistence, but I'd like to think most forumites can be reasoned with...

You can't reason with people possessed by demon's.



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You can't reason with people possessed by demon's.

:o   It was the blood magic!  I knew it!  You can only dabble for so long before the demons notice.  :alien:


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He's a known troll, just ignore him

 

So being pro-mage and not fawning all over the chantry is being a troll now? mmkay.



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So being pro-mage and not fawning all over the chantry is being a troll now? mmkay.

No, you are being purposefully obtuse and ignoring every developer comment or hypothetical that counters your objection.  Blood magic is gone specifically because it is illegal throughout Thedas and carries a death penalty.  There is no reason for us to believe that Gaider lied when he said that they could not do the spec justice in relation to the lore so they removed it.  We've been told time and time again that the Inquisition does not have to support the Chantry, yet you refuse to believe this... why?  I mean really, if the Inquisition can side with the mages, that should tell you right there that we are not puppets of the Chantry.  Why would Laidlaw or Cameron Lee (I don't remember which...) have lied during the Skyhold interview?  Why would Bioware lie at all about any of this when they know full well how irate the fans will get the second they realize they've been tricked?  Lying to the consumer isn't going to help them sell copies of the game when the whole world can know about it in a matter of minutes thanks to the internet...


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The first two sentences are apparently provably untrue, since he apparently got into the Inquisition by stamping out the fighting in Kirkwall that Hawke couldn't take care of. And as everybody keeps telling you, the third sentence is unproven.

 

And in which faction Cullen was again? Thats right, he was a templar stamping all over the remaining mages in the Kirkwall Circle.

And for the record, "everybody" have just opinions, not facts. That doesn´t make them more right wouldn´t you say? So lets just wait and see how it goes shall we.



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No, you are being purposefully obtuse and ignoring every developer comment or hypothetical that counters your objection.  Blood magic is gone specifically because it is illegal throughout Thedas and carries a death penalty.  There is no reason for us to believe that Gaider lied when he said that they could not do the spec justice in relation to the lore so they removed it.  We've been told time and time again that the Inquisition does not have to support the Chantry, yet you refuse to believe this... why?  I mean really, if the Inquisition can side with the mages, that should tell you right there that we are not puppets of the Chantry.  Why would Laidlaw or Cameron Lee (I don't remember which...) have lied during the Skyhold interview?  Why would Bioware lie at all about any of this?

 

No. What I am being is having a opinion and defending it. I´ve seen those comments from devs about the game/lore/story/gameplay, BUT, as a individual I make my own judgement from the bits of information available. Time will tell  who is right won´t it? It´s not like Bio doesn´t have a recond of stating something and doing something else so I wouldn´t take everything they say like a word of god. My main argument is that blood magic is not much more diffucult to implement than any other magic branch. Story and gameplay can be finetuned so that using blood magic is possible (I´ve explained it before) and it works well with the rpg spirit. You use something people don´t like? Tought luck, then work with the tools you have. People and factions may leave but why is it that you can´t replace them with someone more acceptable? It might be because if you have already railroaded storyline with a specific faction then it comes more clear why such thing like blood magic is banned. And what faction in the gameworld hates most blood magic, thats right, andrastian chantry. If I´m proven wrong then excellent, but I am skeptical.

 

Couple of things:

 

- blood magic might be illegal in Thedas but the continent is in turmoil and in civil war. Who has time to watch for blood mages?

- pc is the only one who can close veil tears, who would deny him from using blood magic?


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