I don't think it's wise that the Chantry or secular rulers lift the ban on blood magic based on the speculation that it might have medical benefits... Do people in Thedas even get cancer? They aren't like humans from Earth...
They don't need to lift the ban. All they need to do is find some way in which curing cancer by manipulating the bloodstream isn't blood magic. You know, sort of like how tracking things with blood isn't blood magic.
justice mentions the spawn as a cancer and varric jokes how the out doors is growing on him... like a tumor. So its reasonable to assume they doI don't think it's wise that the Chantry or secular rulers lift the ban on blood magic based on the speculation that it might have medical benefits... Do people in Thedas even get cancer? They aren't like humans from Earth...
I'm pretty sure you could use it to cure cancer. It's my understanding that it disrupts the growth of the bloodstream (which otherwise grows in a predictable fractal pattern) to feed itself. So, bring in a mage who can trace the bloodstream, and have him look for and utterly destroy anything that doesn't follow the pattern. Early detection and the cure, both taken care of.
In the WoT, there is a story of two lovers, Crescens and Serephina, Crescens being a blood mage. Seraphina had some kind of fatal wasting disease, and Crescens was able to heal her of it with blood magic, though the energy required cost him his life.
If blood magic was able to cure cancer, I think it would take an equal sacrifice in life to heal such a deadly affliction.
They don't need to lift the ban. All they need to do is find some way in which curing cancer by manipulating the bloodstream isn't blood magic. You know, sort of like how tracking things with blood isn't blood magic.
Most people don't even know phylacteries exist.
They don't need to lift the ban. All they need to do is find some way in which curing cancer by manipulating the bloodstream isn't blood magic. You know, sort of like how tracking things with blood isn't blood magic.
Well, normal healing magic can stop stop blood flow, no? And that is normal Creation magic manipulating the bloodstream. I think that to do what you are suggesting would probably require the precision and power of a Spirit Healer.
They don't need to lift the ban. All they need to do is find some way in which curing cancer by manipulating the bloodstream isn't blood magic. You know, sort of like how tracking things with blood isn't blood magic.
lol... yes, the Chantry is good at cherry picking and finding loopholes. xD Perhaps they could have a specific group within the Circles that is dedicated to the medical applications of blood magic then. Stranger things have happened.
In the WoT, there is a story of two lovers, Crescens and Serephina, Crescens being a blood mage. Seraphina had some kind of fatal wasting disease, and Crescens was able to heal her of it with blood magic, though the energy required cost him his life.
If blood magic was able to cure cancer, I think it would take an equal sacrifice in life to heal such a deadly affliction.
Good point... solutions involving blood magic are never simple and always seem to come at a price.
Jeez, you're just like the Pathfinder GM I had who wouldn't let me play a necromancer.
Was it just a Necromancer, or was it a Necromancer to "needed" fresh corpses and "acquired" them from the local villages?
GMing takes a lot of work. Most people don't want to go through all that just so their players can act out various Antisocial impulses.
i think thats grounds for annulment... people do stupid things.lol... yes, the Chantry is good at cherry picking and finding loopholes. xD Perhaps they could have a specific group within the Circles that is dedicated to the medical applications of blood magic then. Stranger things have happened.
Good point... solutions involving blood magic are never simple and always seem to come at a price.
Most definitely. The possibilities are practically limitless with blood magic. I have no doubt you can heal pretty much any disease or condition with blood magic, though the more fatal the disease is, the more of your own life force/blood is required.
In the WoT, there is a story of two lovers, Crescens and Serephina, Crescens being a blood mage. Seraphina had some kind of fatal wasting disease, and Crescens was able to heal her of it with blood magic, though the energy required cost him his life.
If blood magic was able to cure cancer, I think it would take an equal sacrifice in life to heal such a deadly affliction.
Does it specifically mention what he did? It sounds to me like he used raw power. What I'm picturing is a slower, less sure process, but one which requires precision rather than merely power.
i think thats grounds for annulment... people do stupid things.
If the mages tried it without permission yes, but the Chantry could grant them an exception if they felt like it (big "if").
Was it just a Necromancer, or was it a Necromancer to "needed" fresh corpses and "acquired" them from the local villages?
Just a necromancer. What kind of psycho do you think I am?
im pro mage and i think its a bad, really bad ideaIf the mages tried it without permission yes, but the Chantry could grant them an exception if they felt like it (big "if").
Does it specifically mention what he did? It sounds to me like he used raw power. What I'm picturing is a slower, less sure process, but one which requires precision rather than merely power.
I don't have WoT on hand, but I remember that it wasn't very specific about the method. It was under a heading in the blood magic section entitled "Responsible" Uses of Blood Magic. I am unsure if Crescens just shoved power into her and killed him as a result or if this was something he did over time and it drained away his life a bit at a time.
I don't have WoT on hand, but I remember that it wasn't very specific about the method. It was under a heading in the blood magic section entitled "Responsible" Uses of Blood Magic. I am unsure of Crescens just shoved power into her and killed him as a result or if this was something he did over time and it drained away his life a bit at a time.
It just doesn't seem to me that the process I'm thinking of would require someone to die. I view it as being as simple as finding the biggest tumor, shocking it to death with something like Blood Wound while being careful to avoid hitting anything else, and moving on to the next one. You'd probably need to take long breaks for the patient to recover, which can also work to the mage's advantage so he can try to regrow some blood cells. Blood Magic can kill you because it sacrifices your health for raw power; this just doesn't seem that demanding on that end.
I don't have WoT on hand, but I remember that it wasn't very specific about the method. It was under a heading in the blood magic section entitled "Responsible" Uses of Blood Magic. I am unsure if Crescens just shoved power into her and killed him as a result or if this was something he did over time and it drained away his life a bit at a time.
The problem with using Blood Magic, even resposibibly, is that the costs are not well understood. The Antivan Blood Mage in Last Flight essentially called it a blind bargain. Even if you use it for the most noble of purposes, it will cost you in ways you're not prepared for at a later point.
im pro mage and i think its a bad, really bad idea
Well, w/e. It's early and I was only joking around. I don't think blood magic should be tolerated for any reason except phylacteries and the Joining. I don't see the point in being completely serious when we're discussing the cure for a disease that we don't even know exists on Thedas...
Also, don't "lol" and "xD" still mean that a person is joking? Did I miss something?
It just doesn't seem to me that the process I'm thinking of would require someone to die. I view it as being as simple as finding a tumor, shocking it to death with something like Blood Wound, and moving on to the next one. Blood Magic can kill you because it requires raw power; this just doesn't seem that demanding on that end.
I am unsure. Thing is, I don't know how much precision such a healing would require, and it might require a lot of power just to be able to effectively locate the tumor first. On top of that, you'd need to send an extremely precise bit of magic at the tumor itself to kill it without damaging the rest of the body. I don't think many mages in Thedas have that level of control, short of the top tier mages on the continent.
The problem with using Blood Magic, even resposibibly, is that the costs are not well understood. The Antivan Blood Mage in Last Flight essentially called it a blind bargain. Even if you use it for the most noble of purposes, it will cost you in ways you're not prepared for at a later point.
Yeah, cause I don't think that Crescens wanted to leave his lover alone. Though, in this case, I can understand why it killed him. A life for a life, so to speak.
it does but i think i missed it *embarassed feeling) apologiesWell, w/e. It's early and I was only joking around. I don't think blood magic should be tolerated for any reason except phylacteries and the Joining. I don't see the point in being completely serious when we're discussing the cure for a disease that we don't even know exists on Thedas... Also, don't "lol" and "xD" still mean that a person is joking? Did I miss something?
Yeah, cause I don't think that Crescens wanted to leave his lover alone. Though, in this case, I can understand why it killed him. A life for a life, so to speak.
Crescen's isn't the first or last man to "Pull and Alistair" in Thedas.
It just doesn't seem to me that the process I'm thinking of would require someone to die. I view it as being as simple as finding the biggest tumor, shocking it to death with something like Blood Wound while being careful to avoid hitting anything else, and moving on to the next one. You'd probably need to take long breaks for the patient to recover, which can also work to the mage's advantage so he can try to regrow some blood cells. Blood Magic can kill you because it sacrifices your health for raw power; this just doesn't seem that demanding on that end.
If the mages tried it without permission yes, but the Chantry could grant them an exception if they felt like it (big "if").
Yeah, cause I don't think that Crescens wanted to leave his lover alone. Though, in this case, I can understand why it killed him. A life for a life, so to speak.
Which is weird, because you could also use it to take many lives at the same time while still retaining yours.
Just a necromancer. What kind of psycho do you think I am?
I've been playing D&D for 20 years. What I described is kittens and rainbows compared to what some people have wanted to play.
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