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[von uber]

Oh god no. Seriously, just let it die already.

[Gingin]

It's good to have Miranda back as a charismatic figure, but maybe not TIW.

[dreamgazer]

She can die. Twice.  She ain't coming back into a significant role.

[themikefest]

I was thinking about this and death counts as well:

 

Kasumi: (Death x1)

 

Zaeed: (Death x3)

 

Kelly: (Death x2)

 

Samantha: (Death x1)

 

Steve: (Death x2)

 

Joker: (Death x1)

 

Edit: Not counting refusal or deaths on cinder blocked earth (didn't see any bodies). Also, forgot to add...

Morinth: Dead.

Kasumi can be dead 3  times. On the suicide mission. Not doing the side mission in ME3 will lead to her death. If she's not loyal when doing the side mission, she will die.

 

Zaeed can die 4 times. On the suicide mission, his loyalty mission, not doing his side mission in ME3 and if not loyal, will die during the side mission in ME3.

 

Kelly can be dead 3 times. The suicide mission, not telling her to change her identity and being angry at her for spying on you where she ends up killing herself

 

Don't know how Steve can die 2  times. He only dies in London

 

If you not counting cinder block Earth with ems below 1750 with destroy the only ending available, then Samantha and Joker will always live.

[themikefest]

I was under the impression that Kasumi just disappears if not loyal in ME3, and is still trying to get the greybox if not recruited since she says she is still trying to figure out how to do so if not loyal in ME3.

 

I did not count Zaeed as dead if not recruited, but it'd make sense he'd still go after Vido and get himself killed, or just still be hanging around Omega, i don't know.

 

I did not know that about Kelly (suicide)...pisses me off a bit. Thanks for that info.

 

I counted everyone as having low EMS death for the beam run and Normandy crash (Liara, Tali, Ashley, Kaidan, Garrus, James, Joker, Steve, Samantha). Was it elaborated if everyone dies on earth? I assumed the cutscene with the earthside soldier meant some may have survived (gone underground).

Kasumi will show up in ME3 loyal or not and if you decide to do that side mission

 

I'm not counting if Zaeed wasn't recruited, I'm counting the times he can die if recruited

 

You mentoned not counting "cinder blocked" Earth that's why I posted what I did about some of those deaths not counting.

 

If ems is below 1750 and destroy is the only available ending, this is what happens. Its believed everyone on the Normandy is dead. Some people survive on Earth, not sure how, but some do and it will take a very, very long time to rebuild.  If ems is between 1750-1900, both squadmates on the beam run will be killed. The door to the Normandy will still open and there will still be a memorial scene. I have had a scene with only Traynor and Joker at the memorial wall

[President of Boom]

  Sorry, but hell to the no.

[SolNebula]

Nope i had enough of derperus and its failed experiments. New faces, new ideas, new enemies please.

[SNascimento]

I don't want any character from the trilogy back, not even mentioned. The next game should be a new thing and not be restrained by the original trilogy. It would be bad for both actually because they would probably need to canonize certain aspects of the ME games and with that take away something they gave in ME1 and kept untill the end: a story that was yours with no official cannon. 

[Degs29]

Someone has probably already said this, but it's highly doubtful they'll set the next game at a time when Miranda's still alive.  It's a pipe dream.  I think that would have been perfect though.

 

Isn't it funny when developers don't do what their fans want?  I think the vast majority of us would have loved to continue on with Shepard and his crew.  If there's one thing worse than extending a series past it's prime, it's cutting it short prematurely....

[YouKnowMyName]

I certainly don't want to continue with Shepard and crew.

 

As far as i'm concerned, his/her story was concluded in ME3.

 

Mass Effect was envisioned as a trilogy from the start, and i'm glad Bioware didn't extend the original plot (ME1-ME3) beyond those three games.

 

What I want is to get known with new interesting characters, instead of the same old.

 

Shepards story could certainly have ended better, but I still don't want them to have him/her return for the next game.

 

That is my opinion.

[ME_Fan]

If they are going to continue the universe then I absolutely bet that we haven't seen the last of Cerberus. It's likely though that after essentially being destroyed, they be relegated to a miniscule, insignificant background role, perhaps as one small sidequest in a future game. Closer to their part in ME1, but not even as large as that.

[Oni Changas]

Miranda is too much of an imbecile in ME3 to lead anything. Goes of to save sister alone without help, and will die without help. She turns into a one note bimbo.

[Son of Shepherd]

No. Cerberus are dead, and Miranda could be too. If you want a xenophobic pro human group, Terra Firma. 

But we've had enough of that.

[FlyingSquirrel]

Who are the people with Miranda in the ending slides if she lives? My impression was that they were trying to depict her as having "come in from the cold" and no longer doing any sort of covert work.

[ImaginaryMatter]

Miranda is too much of an imbecile in ME3 to lead anything. Goes of to save sister alone without help, and will die without help. She turns into a one note bimbo.

 

ME2 too. Then again almost everyone in Cerberus is a bumbling fool, yet the organization managed to continue flourishing.

[Iakus]

 

 

Allers: (Death x0)

 

Allers dies if you don't bring her aboard.  She embeds with the SSV Shasta instead, and it's destroyed by Reapers.

 

As to teh Cerberus/Miranda thing.  No, just...no.  Not only can Miranda be dead, but Cerberus has gone through so many permutations and is so throughly permeating every aspect of the ME universe that I'm pretty sick of them.

 

Seriously, I expect at some point we'll discover they built a flux capacitor (destroying an small planet and its colony in the process) went back in time, and started the Rchni Wars.

[rekn2]

im done with cerberus but i would like a lil more of miranda.

[whogotsalami]

I hope not. That would be a terrible idea.

[Guanxii]

A lot of people appear to have misintepreted this thread. I'm not suggesting Miranda become another supervilain like TIM part II. Quite the opposite in fact. Cerberus' time as perennial whipping boys come cartoon villains is done - Miranda's self appointment would see to that - that's what I'm trying to say.

I know Miranda would be horrified that an organisation she once gave her life for potentially would devolve into such a horror show. This can't be the end. There were a lot of good people doing vital work for every evil douchbag that now have absolutely no platform. Even if she started a brand new organisation to carry on that legacy it would be Cerberus how it should be in all but name. Not a prominent organisation but one that figure in the background in the shadows. Something you might hear unconfirmed rumors of in Alliance news sources.

I suggested Illusive Woman as an alliance nickname because she might be dead in some games leaving it open to interpretation - in which case it could be some other female ex Cerberus like Brynn or her Identical twin sister. Hearing the phrase "Illusive woman" most of us I'm guessing would immediately assume that would be her which would cool. I'm not suggesting we would ever see her again in the flesh as that would undermine the purpose of the nickname and ruin any fan speculation.

[BioWareM0d13]

A lot of people appear to have misintepreted this thread. I'm not suggesting Miranda become another supervilain like TIM part II. Quite the opposite in fact. Cerberus' time as perennial whipping boys come cartoon villains is done - Miranda's self appointment would see to that - that's what I'm trying to say.

 

 

Realistically the Cerberus 'brand' should be damaged beyond all repair. They played the role of galactic traitor and nearly handed victory to the Reapers. Even people who might share some of their political beliefs would probably not one to be connected to them, as most people who would have a kneejerk negative reaction to all things Cerberus.

 

Should there be people with a human supremacist agenda? Sure. But they shouldn't be Cerberus.