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#226
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1) (About DAII) For some reasons, the Keep won't let me choose both "Merrill is dead" and "Merrill's clan was killed". But why? I can kill her clan, then choose the Templar's side and kill her when she opposes me - everything seems valid. Can someone elaborate?

 

1.1) Just noticed - it also forces me to choose "Merrill stayed with Hawke" if I want to choose "Merrill's clan was killed".

 

I'm pretty sure that's because you can only kill Merrill's clan if you do her final stage relationship quest, and if you complete it then she automatically stays with you at the end and can't leave the party and be killed while defending the Circle.

 

2) (About DAII) It seems to me that when choosing your romance you actually choose the person you were locked in with by the end of the game. Because my perfect plan for adding drama to the playthrough where my Hawke romanced Seb, sided with mages and didn't kill Anders just burnt in flames  :(

 

Yeah, mine too :( . In regards to DA2, it seems that the Keep will only let you set a character as romanced if the relationship was active at the very end of the game. You can't romance Isabela and hand her over to the Arishok, or romance Fenris and give him to Danarius, even though you can do both of those things in the game itself. (The only current exception is Anders - you can set the Keep to both 'romanced Anders' and 'executed Anders.')

 

My 'canon' Hawke romanced Sebastian, and what to do about Anders was the most agonising decision in the game for me. Now that it turns out the romance won't be acknowledged at all unless I retcon my in-game choice, I'm torn all over again. (I mean, I can see how it's easier to code 'Hawke is with Character A' vs. 'Hawke is not with Character A' and skip all instances of 'Hawke was romancing Character A right up until she broke up with them in the most spectacular way possible' but I'm still conflicted.)

 

3) (About DAO) Zerlinda's quest - it shows only two outcomes (and I'm mentioning this because my PC is acting a bit strange lately and it's possible that there are missing panels). And if not - am I the only one upset by the scarcity of outcomes for this particular quest?

 

I reported it, but I assume the other options just haven't been added yet for whatever reason. (Obviously there should be five, not two.)



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In order to kill Merrill and her clan, you need to: 100% rival Anders+complete act 3 questioning beliefs, and have the option to get him to side with the templars. PLUS have not completed Merrill Friend or Foe, her post-A New Path quest.



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Connor can only be possessed with a mage origin Warden right? Cause my Dalish elf handed him over to the demon. Is that a bug?

 

Also I'm trying to get Aveline to leave my party in both my 'evil templar' and 'evil mage' world states but she needs either Merrill or Fenris or both to be alive for that to happen? Just curious why is that? Aveline didn't have much of a friendship or dislike for either of them in my playthroughs so whats going on? 



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3) (About DAO) Zerlinda's quest - it shows only two outcomes (and I'm mentioning this because my PC is acting a bit strange lately and it's possible that there are missing panels). And if not - am I the only one upset by the scarcity of outcomes for this particular quest?

 

I've reported this two or three times.



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I'm trying to create a hellish dystopia for my inquisitors to try to fix. I want the warden to have the OGB and marry Anora also want Alistair to either be executed or become a drunk and for someone (I don't care who) to kill Loghain at the landsmeet. But, apparently, Loghain being killed by either me or Alistair is incompatible with Alistair being beheaded or becoming a drunk. I've never done either of those to Alistair in Origins. Is this a bug? It seems like it should be.

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I'm trying to create a hellish dystopia for my inquisitors to try to fix. I want the warden to have the OGB and marry Anora also want Alistair to either be executed or become a drunk and for someone (I don't care who) to kill Loghain at the landsmeet. But, apparently, Loghain being killed by either me or Alistair is incompatible with Alistair being beheaded or becoming a drunk. I've never done either of those to Alistair in Origins. Is this a bug? It seems like it should be.

No, it's not a bug.
You can't exile\kill Alistair if you kill Loghain and vice versa.
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#232
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You can't get rid of both Loghain and Alistair without letting one of them kill the Archdemon. One of them always comes with you into the endgame so there'll be somebody to perform the Dark Ritual if the Warden is female, and someone else to take the final blow if your character refuses it. So if you want Alistair drunk and Loghain dead, you can't also have an OGB.


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Connor can only be possessed with a mage origin Warden right? Cause my Dalish elf handed him over to the demon. Is that a bug?

Also I'm trying to get Aveline to leave my party in both my 'evil templar' and 'evil mage' world states but she needs either Merrill or Fenris or both to be alive for that to happen? Just curious why is that? Aveline didn't have much of a friendship or dislike for either of them in my playthroughs so whats going on?

I think any mage can hand him over to the demon. If your Dalish is a fighter or rogue then that is certainly a bug.

Aveline leaving can only happen if you don't have a strong relationship, and if her leaving would not leave you screwed in terms of party. So you have to have a fighter available. I'm not sure why Merril would be an issue, perhaps you don't have the minimum number of companions and booting Aveline brings you under?

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They're doing a stability upgrade this morning, so if it keeps happening after that, you might want to send email to onlinecommunity@bioware.com and let them know that way.

 

Ah, OK.  Thanks a lot. :)



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Connor can only be possessed with a mage origin Warden right? Cause my Dalish elf handed him over to the demon. Is that a bug?

 

Also I'm trying to get Aveline to leave my party in both my 'evil templar' and 'evil mage' world states but she needs either Merrill or Fenris or both to be alive for that to happen? Just curious why is that? Aveline didn't have much of a friendship or dislike for either of them in my playthroughs so whats going on? 

 

I think any mage can hand him over to the demon. If your Dalish is a fighter or rogue then that is certainly a bug.

Aveline leaving can only happen if you don't have a strong relationship, and if her leaving would not leave you screwed in terms of party. So you have to have a fighter available. I'm not sure why Merril would be an issue, perhaps you don't have the minimum number of companions and booting Aveline brings you under?

If your elf is Dalish, he/she shouldn't have even been able to enter the Fade; that task requires a mage (either a mage Warden, or else Morrigan, Wynne, or Irving if you can persuade him).

 

Aveline will only leave the party under one very specific combination of circumstances. It's likely that this is to ensure Hawke has a warrior in his/her party no matter what, but it's also (I think) indicative of Aveline's almost permanent loyalty to Hawke even when she gets pissed off.


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#236
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Okay, Keep's back up after maintenance, but all my world states are gone. Anybody else having this problem?


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Same thing happened to mine. 



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Okay, Keep's back up after maintenance, but all my world states are gone. Anybody else having this problem?

I think all of us



#239
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At least all my Wardens and Hawkes still there



#240
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Well, guess my role in this beta is to report problems that BioWare already know about :D . I just filed this as a bug, but I guess it's not!



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Well they said before they were gonna do a wipe before it releases to the public anyway. They probably wiped the world States to see if it fixes some of the bugs or something. Nothing to people rage about really (not that anyone is raging, just saying) :)

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I have all of my stuff. Shared and Personal World States.



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Well they said before they were gonna do a wipe before it releases to the public anyway. They probably wiped the world States to see if it fixes some of the bugs or something. Nothing to people rage about really (not that anyone is raging, just saying) :)

 

Possibly. Although, I must say the update appears to be rather buggy itself (e.g., the Warden's survival is dependent on 19 other factors, I can't romance Morrigan unless I switch to being a male Dalish elf). Odd.  

 

Edit: Logged out and back in  a few times and I appear to be able to select all options now. World states still missing, however. Never mind. 



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I have all of my stuff. Shared and Personal World States.


Ah well then there you go. Guess it is a bug lol
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#245
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Maybe the server is still in the middle of booting back up which is why some of us have no States?

#246
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Hi all, yes this is our bad! Some of you may find your world states missing, but we're working on getting them back. We'll update you again when we know more! 


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#247
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Hi all, yes this is our bad! Some of you may find your world states missing, but we're working on getting them back. We'll update you again when we know more! 

 

Thanks Renata!


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Hi all, yes this is our bad! Some of you may find your world states missing, but we're working on getting them back. We'll update you again when we know more! 

 

If it's a bug then it should get fixed. Otherwise I don't mind going through it again. I mean that's what we're in the beta for right?


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Hi all, yes this is our bad! Some of you may find your world states missing, but we're working on getting them back. We'll update you again when we know more! 

I'm redoing my states, so there will be any conflict?



#250
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Hi all, yes this is our bad! Some of you may find your world states missing, but we're working on getting them back. We'll update you again when we know more! 

 

Hey, no worries. This is why I have my spreadsheet :lol: . And why we're having a beta.

 

(Although my situation is stranger than I thought - the first world state I made is sort of still there, with the name and a bunch of the choices reset apparently at random. It still has the description I gave it, though, and my Warden and Hawke loaded. Weird.)