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[Kantr]

Once you change something, the autosolver will kick in (I think).

 

I suppose someone could ask on twitter if they want people to report invalid worldstates from the yolo button.

[JumpTheGoombas]

The yolo button is known not to be perfect and more times that not will end up with an invalid world state/situation. I'm unsure how they can fix this so best to say use the yolo button with caution.

Fair enough.  I can imagine it'd certainly be difficult/near impossible to try and prevent every possible situation.

 

With syncing down, are there certain aspects of the keep we ought to be testing for?  Or just keep fiddling and see if something goes wrong?

[Devil's Avocado]

Fair enough.  I can imagine it'd certainly be difficult/near impossible to try and prevent every possible situation.

 

With syncing down, are there certain aspects of the keep we ought to be testing for?  Or just keep fiddling and see if something goes wrong?

Given that the syncing is quite optional, there are more important things to test for such as bugs related to the coding of the Keep like errors or trying to force plot points you know don't work and see if the keep doesn't stop it, espcially ones people havn't found/reported enough. One such bug I've seen and never saw anyone comment on here (and hasn't been fixed) is danzig being alive, that's only possible if Fenris is in the party and you can select that you never recruited him yet danzig lives.

[JumpTheGoombas]

Given that the syncing is quite optional, there are more important things to test for such as bugs related to the coding of the Keep like errors or trying to force plot points you know don't work and see if the keep doesn't stop it, espcially ones people havn't found/reported enough. One such bug I've seen and never saw anyone comment on here (and hasn't been fixed) is danzig being alive, that's only possible if Fenris is in the party and you can select that you never recruited him yet danzig lives.

Ah, got it.  

 

I shall continue on the mission of breaking things!

 

Thanks!

[EdwinLi]

So will they add in the choice to determing Jowan's fate?

 

I was expecting the ability to determine Jowen's fate between killing Jowen, Sending Jowen back to the Circle, and letting Jowen free considering how he affects DAO story.

[Devil's Avocado]

So will they add in the choice to determing Jowan's fate?

 

I was expecting the ability to determine Jowen's fate between killing Jowen, Sending Jowen back to the Circle, and letting Jowen free considering how he affects DAO story.

It all depends if there's a high enough demand for it, that goes for all choices missing from the Keep.

[rprm1987]

So will they add in the choice to determing Jowan's fate?

 

I was expecting the ability to determine Jowen's fate between killing Jowen, Sending Jowen back to the Circle, and letting Jowen free considering how he affects DAO story.

 

Along with that Owen's fate -: I mean killing Owen is the only way the second merchant pops up at redcliffe and he has arguably the most powerful bow in main game.

[Alvarado]

I could have sworn that you, as the Warden can live while killing the archdemon and still have Alistair as king. Can't seem to do that in the keep.

[DinX64]

I could have sworn that you, as the Warden can live while killing the archdemon and still have Alistair as king. Can't seem to do that in the keep.

You need to complete Morrigan's dark ritual for that to happen, and Loghain needs to be apart of grey wardens.

 

 

In the keep, it would be either Warden or Loghain had old god baby with Morrigan.

[MatroxYang]

Hey so how come I can't have Aveline leaving Hawke and Hawke siding with the templars? My hawke sided with the templars but she had a rivalry with Aveline, they were not 'true friends to the end' as the panel says. Later on in the game Aveline told my hawke she planned on leaving kirkwall for ferelden. So why does the keep not reflect this? Thanx!

[Alvarado]

You need to complete Morrigan's dark ritual for that to happen, and Loghain need to be apart of grey wardens. In the keep, it would be either Warden or Loghain had old god baby with Morrigan.

 

Ah cool, thanks.

[Natureguy85]

Is anyone else unable to load saved world states right now? I want to play around with the keep but don't want to change the current world state.

[Ranadiel Marius]

Hey so how come I can't have Aveline leaving Hawke and Hawke siding with the templars? My hawke sided with the templars but she had a rivalry with Aveline, they were not 'true friends to the end' as the panel says. Later on in the game Aveline told my hawke she planned on leaving kirkwall for ferelden. So why does the keep not reflect this? Thanx!

Leaving Hawke for Aveline is a reference to the final battle where under very specific conditions she will leave your party if you side with the mages. Her decision to eventually return home is currently not represented in the Keep.

[MatroxYang]

Leaving Hawke for Aveline is a reference to the final battle where under very specific conditions she will leave your party if you side with the mages. Her decision to eventually return home is currently not represented in the Keep.

Okay, it's just bugging me a little that the panel refers to them as 'true friends to the end' when at one point Aveline straight-up assaulted Hawke!

[dgcatanisiri]

Hey so how come I can't have Aveline leaving Hawke and Hawke siding with the templars? My hawke sided with the templars but she had a rivalry with Aveline, they were not 'true friends to the end' as the panel says. Later on in the game Aveline told my hawke she planned on leaving kirkwall for ferelden. So why does the keep not reflect this? Thanx!

 

What's Fenris's fate in this world state? It may have something to do with how DA2 essentially had it that mages sided with mages and warriors sided with templars at the end (unless your friendship was high enough), and you had to have at least one of both classes stay with you.

[DinX64]

Hey so how come I can't have Aveline leaving Hawke and Hawke siding with the templars? My hawke sided with the templars but she had a rivalry with Aveline, they were not 'true friends to the end' as the panel says. Later on in the game Aveline told my hawke she planned on leaving kirkwall for ferelden. So why does the keep not reflect this? Thanx!

Because in the game, Aveline doesn't have a problem siding with templars, but does have a problem siding with mages if you don't 100% friendship or rival. There are other different requirements in the game, but don't remember them.

 

Also Fenris and Aveline are tied together in that only one of them can leave the group.

[Natureguy85]

I could have sworn that you, as the Warden can live while killing the archdemon and still have Alistair as king. Can't seem to do that in the keep.

 

You don't need Logain. You just need to do Morrigan's dark ritual and make Alistair king.

[DinX64]

Is anyone else unable to load saved world states right now? I want to play around with the keep but don't want to change the current world state.

What do you mean by load saved world states? If you mean by  creating new worlds states, the limit is nine right now. If there is no ' +' sign next to the Saved world states then you have reached the limit of world states you can create.

Modifié par DinX64, 21 octobre 2014 - 07:15 .

[Gwyvian]

You don't need Logain. You just need to do Morrigan's dark ritual and make Alistair king.

Yes, I've never been able to keep Alistair around once I chose to initiate Loghain, I thought that was impossible. Though, I have read of a version where you can somehow force Alistair to marry Anora and keep Loghain alive (the only way Anora agrees to marrying Alistair in the first place), I haven't been able to recreate that, though. My default playthrough involves living through killing the archdeamon and Alistair being king every time.

[Devil's Avocado]

Yes, I've never been able to keep Alistair around once I chose to initiate Loghain, I thought that was impossible. Though, I have read of a version where you can somehow force Alistair to marry Anora and keep Loghain alive (the only way Anora agrees to marrying Alistair in the first place), I haven't been able to recreate that, though. My default playthrough involves living through killing the archdeamon and Alistair being king every time.

It's actually not forced, Alistair must be hardened and you had to have talked to Alistair and Anora before the landsmeet so they both agree to marry each other. This is the only 'positive' out come for Alistair if Loghain becomes a warden.

[Gwyvian]

It's actually not forced, Alistair must be hardened and you had to have talked to Alistair and Anora before the landsmeet so they both agree to marry each other. This is the only 'positive' out come for Alistair if Loghain becomes a warden.

Well, I meant forced as in neither of them would have chosen that without my friendly convincing, haha. But as to this, I'm curious how this can be pulled off - in my last playthrough, I went to Anora and Alistair (who was hardened) and told them to marry each other, then I fought Loghain myself and I chose to initiate him. I was expecting to have some influence on the matter and convince Alistair that he should be king, but I'm not budging on my decision about Loghain, and he ended up running off..... well, the first time I went with the dialogue that made him king, which ended with Loghain being executed anyway, then I reloaded and this happened. I must have missed which choices to make in order to get this result, though I admit it's not my favorite playthrough, so I haven't tried everything possible under the Sun.

[Eralrik]

In Dragon Age Awakening The Darkspawn Messenger that brings news of The Mother attacking the Wardens Keep needs to be added I feel as if you chose to save the city you either kept him prisoner or you had him help you in the fight to save the city.

 

I had him help me in my game's and set him free afterwards. In the after game report it mentions a hooded stranger helping people along the way though darkspawn taint was also in the area but no one put two an two together.

 

Hearing of a Darkspawn who was so changed by the Warden Commander out trying to change and do good would be interesting to hear about maybe in some future game.

[Tenz83]

Are people still having plot tiles reset after the maintenance?

[Eralrik]

I remember having Loghain initiated and Alistair marry Anora and becoming King but Alistair abandoned the Wardens and pretty much hated the Hero, barely spoke at the inauguration.

[Gwyvian]

I remember having Loghain initiated and Alistair marry Anora and becoming King but Alistair abandoned the Wardens and pretty much hated the Hero, barely spoke at the inauguration.

But how did you do it? I wanted to try this, my Alistair just decided to up and leave entirely, he gave me an ultimatum that it was either him or Loghain, end of story.