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[nightscrawl]

I put in a request to remove Fenris and Merrill's contingencies from Aveline leaving. I think it's silly for a contingency based on gameplay balancing to hold sway in the Keep. If you feel the same (and want more roleplaying options in terms of how Hawke dealt with companions) you should put in a request with the Feedback tool too.

 

Sorry, I can't agree. If you make one exception for something like this then you might as well make more; you've set a precedent. "Why can't I execute both Alistair and Loghain? I'm a male Warden who romanced Morrigan, Female Wardens' problems don't concern me." (Sorry to hijack your issue Captain Coffee, it seemed the most apt; I'm not saying you said this or think this way.)

 

Regarding Aveline specifically, it is notoriously difficult to make her abandon you during gameplay. Whether that is by design so you have a tank -- not like the game needs it, healers are far more valuable and it's quite easy  to end up with none of those -- or to go along with her loyal personality we can't really know. Unless you have a quote somewhere, you can't unequivocally state that it was because of gameplay balance.

[DameGrace]

EDIT: Also, as some people have posted a few days ago I have been able to let Bethany survive Lothering while choosing a mage Hawke. I myself like this option better, though I'm not sure wheter this is a bug or not.

 

Can you tell how do you achieve this? I've tried choosing Mage Hawke, then changing Bethany's fate, but the Keep doesn't let me. Or first setting her fate, then changing Hawke's class. Or changing Carver's fate - nothing works.

 

It's not that I really want this choice, but now that I'm in the Keep testing it is so fun. 

[Amy326]

So I need to know, I replayed DA2 just a few days ago to get my one and last Achievement(siding with Templars 5 times), and I was thinking, Bethany hates being a Grey Warden, I don't want her unhappy, but I want her to appear in Inquisition and I believe that if we have her as a Grey Warden that's more likely than if she was just a Circle Mage.

 

What do you all think?

[Amy326]

I've experienced something similar with the world states descriptions, sometimes they show, sometimes they don't.

 

EDIT: Also, as some people have posted a few days ago I have been able to let Bethany survive Lothering while choosing a mage Hawke. I myself like this option better, though I'm not sure wheter this is a bug or not.

 

This is totally a bug. The developers made 2 specifically so that you would always have the opposite of what you choose. Rogue and Sword user=Mage alive/Mage user=Sword alive. I would change this and/or report it because if you try and import this to Inquisition it might mess up your game.

[The Bear Muse]

My favourite so far is "King Cailen Undefined" instead of "King Cailen Aiduken" in the backstory blurb on the same page - methinks someone forgot to turn off autocorrect   (logged it already btw)

 

That should be Cailan Theirin, not Aeducan.

[bazzag]

So I need to know, I replayed DA2 just a few days ago to get my one and last Achievement(siding with Templars 5 times), and I was thinking, Bethany hates being a Grey Warden, I don't want her unhappy, but I want her to appear in Inquisition and I believe that if we have her as a Grey Warden that's more likely than if she was just a Circle Mage.

 

What do you all think?

 

I don't see why there isn't a strong possibility of her appearing if shes a circle mage. There is a mage/templar war on. We could (theoretically) see a lot of old mage chums.

[DameGrace]

So I need to know, I replayed DA2 just a few days ago to get my one and last Achievement(siding with Templars 5 times), and I was thinking, Bethany hates being a Grey Warden, I don't want her unhappy, but I want her to appear in Inquisition and I believe that if we have her as a Grey Warden that's more likely than if she was just a Circle Mage.

 

What do you all think?

 

I don't really like Bethany (and I have only played non-mage Hawke a couple of times), but I too think that her chances of appearing (if she appears at all) are higher if she is a Grey Warden. First, as a Grey Warden she has a sort of Get Out of Jail card despite being a mage and she is in less danger of becoming a causality of Mage-Templar War. Of course, being a Grey Warden she is in danger of many other things. And if she is a Circle Mage, she has more troubles - there's no Circle for her to return to, her sibling is gone, and I'm not sure she is capable of facing the world on her own so it's likely she had joined forces with other mages.

 

I'm also interested in meeting Carver. And I'd like to see Templar!Carver more than Warden!Carver. 

[rfL -]

Can you tell how do you achieve this? I've tried choosing Mage Hawke, then changing Bethany's fate, but the Keep doesn't let me. Or first setting her fate, then changing Hawke's class. Or changing Carver's fate - nothing works.

 

It's not that I really want this choice, but now that I'm in the Keep testing it is so fun. 

If I recall correctly I had first chosen a rogue Hawke and started doing the tapestry. I changed to mage Hawke and got no conflicts. When I went to the DA2 companions part the option already selected was "Bethany became a Circle mage". Now I can choose freely between Warden Bethany and Circle Bethany without getting any conflict, but only on this world state. I haven't been able to reproduce the issue on another world state.

 

 

This is totally a bug. The developers made 2 specifically so that you would always have the opposite of what you choose. Rogue and Sword user=Mage alive/Mage user=Sword alive. I would change this and/or report it because if you try and import this to Inquisition it might mess up your game.

That's what I thought, and I did report it.

[DameGrace]

If I recall correctly I had first chosen a rogue Hawke and started doing the tapestry. I changed to mage Hawke and got no conflicts. When I went to the DA2 companions part the option already selected was "Bethany became a Circle mage". Now I can choose freely between Warden Bethany and Circle Bethany without getting any conflict, but only on this world state.

 

Okay, it doesn't let me do this... oh, wait, it just did. But not completely:

1. I have chosen mage Hawke 
2. Went to companions screen, changed Carver's fate to 'Died in Lothering'
3. the Keep prompted me to change Bethany's fate, which I did (but didn't ask me to change Hawke's class)
4. Then I returned to DAII portion and I see that Hawke is still a mage.
5. BUT! If I change Bethany's fate to 'Became a Grey Warden' or go into Hero tile of DAII (to the character screen, not just the part where you also change your personality), the Keep automatically changes Hawke to warrior when I go back. 

I have also found another issue: when you make a choice which conflicts with some other choices, the Keep asks you if you want to change other things. You can click 'yes' and it will do so or 'no' and no changes will be made. However, when you change your character in DAII portion (and it conflicts with other choices, e.g. you go from rogue to mage and the Keep asks if I want to make changes to Bethany's and Carver's fates) I can't click 'no'. Actually, I can, but this pop-up won't close. Anybody else?

[Larx Shallow]

So I need to know, I replayed DA2 just a few days ago to get my one and last Achievement(siding with Templars 5 times), and I was thinking, Bethany hates being a Grey Warden, I don't want her unhappy, but I want her to appear in Inquisition and I believe that if we have her as a Grey Warden that's more likely than if she was just a Circle Mage.

 

What do you all think?

Well for mages you have the whole mage/templar conflict we might perhaps see her as a mage leader trying to help other mages or something. There are a lot of ways where if Bethany was in the circle that she could do in Inquisition. 

 

Even as a warden she was unhappy... but later on she approves of what they do and I think in a way perhaps gets happier with the wardens as time goes on. Either option could lead to interesting things for Bethany... and for Carver too.

[rfL -]

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I have also found another issue: when you make a choice which conflicts with some other choices, the Keep asks you if you want to change other things. You can click 'yes' and it will do so or 'no' and no changes will be made. However, when you change you character in DAII portion (and it conflicts with other choices, e.g. you go from rogue to mage and the Keep asks if I want to make changes to Bethany's and Carver's fates) I can't click 'no'. Actually, I can, but this pop-up won't close. Anybody else?

The same happened here.

[Evamitchelle]

Loghain is executed by the warden. The error that comes up specifically mentions the conflict is because the warden is not in a romance with Alistair. Yet this doesn't appear to be the case if she's with Zevran or Leliana (which I just tried now). 

 

Edit: Ok this is getting stranger. So fem Cousland warden is now with Leliana and is also Alistair's mistress...um what?   Confirmed that the same issue happens if Zev is the romance partner. At this point, at least something must be a bug right?

 

I've encountered the same bug and reported it. Basically it looks like all the options in "Did the Warden remain Alistair's mistress ?" are bugged: you can romance Zevran/Leliana while staying Alistair's mistress, or staying in the Wardens with him, which shouldn't be possible, and you can't marry Alistair if you didn't romance him, which is possible in-game. 

[Ranadiel Marius]

 

My world states Personal and Shared are both still there.

 

Still no 360 Wardens, less than half my achievements, and barely any rewards and/or dlc for origins and no dlc/rewards for da2 and one missing achievement

 

I know that this is a known issue though

 

I just wanted to make a note of it.

 

 

Out of curiosity are the achievements that are showing up ones that you have gotten more recently? Because I noticed that my only Warden that has uploaded was also the only one who wasn't uploaded years ago (and none of my achievements are uploading period and they are all years old at this point).

So I need to know, I replayed DA2 just a few days ago to get my one and last Achievement(siding with Templars 5 times), and I was thinking, Bethany hates being a Grey Warden, I don't want her unhappy, but I want her to appear in Inquisition and I believe that if we have her as a Grey Warden that's more likely than if she was just a Circle Mage.

 

What do you all think?

I don't think there is a chance she'll be happy regardless of what you do for her. If you make her a circle mage, then she'll be quite distraught at the Mage/Templar war taking away the one place where she felt normal. If you make her a Grey Warden then she'll just be grumpy period. So I guess go with the Circle, that way she at least had a few years of happiness. >.>

[Amy326]

Out of curiosity are the achievements that are showing up ones that you have gotten more recently? Because I noticed that my only Warden that has uploaded was also the only one who wasn't uploaded years ago (and none of my achievements are uploading period and they are all years old at this point).
I don't think there is a chance she'll be happy regardless of what you do for her. If you make her a circle mage, then she'll be quite distraught at the Mage/Templar war taking away the one place where she felt normal. If you make her a Grey Warden then she'll just be grumpy period. So I guess go with the Circle, that way she at least had a few years of happiness. >.>

I haven't gotten a new achievement in DA2 in almost 2 months excluding the one since this morning. The siding with the Templars achievement is the only one from DA2 not showing up in BSN or the Keep even though I got it 2 days ago.

As for DAO almost none of my newer achievements are registering, it's saying 72 but it should be closer to 135 registering.

[CENIC]

Sorry, I can't agree. If you make one exception for something like this then you might as well make more; you've set a precedent. "Why can't I execute both Alistair and Loghain? I'm a male Warden who romanced Morrigan, Female Wardens' problems don't concern me." (Sorry to hijack your issue Captain Coffee, it seemed the most apt; I'm not saying you said this or think this way.)

 

Regarding Aveline specifically, it is notoriously difficult to make her abandon you during gameplay. Whether that is by design so you have a tank -- not like the game needs it, healers are far more valuable and it's quite easy  to end up with none of those -- or to go along with her loyal personality we can't really know. Unless you have a quote somewhere, you can't unequivocally state that it was because of gameplay balance.

 

If it's for an as-of-yet-unrevealed plot reason (like, for instance, Bethany/Carver - one of the surviving siblings has to be a mage for the player to feel compelled to push forward with the Deep Roads expedition) then I can accept it. But I don't believe that is the case.

 

EDIT: To clarify, your example of executing Loghain and Alistair would affect the plot. How is Aveline leaving because she disagrees with you going to affect anything other than how she feels about Hawke? Especially when you consider that Varric says all of the companions went their separate ways eventually?

[Lumix19]

Shouldn't the romanced Anders option be disallowed if Feynriel was possessed? Or does it count the fact that you initiated a romance?

[CENIC]

Shouldn't the romanced Anders option be disallowed if Feynriel was possessed? Or does it count the fact that you initiated a romance?

 

Couldn't you bypass that by not bringing Anders with you during Night Terrors?

[Lumix19]

Couldn't you bypass that by not bringing Anders with you during Night Terrors?

Oh yeah Sorry nevermind

[jenncircus]

Has anyone been able to romance Alister as a male human mage and than also been able to become his Queen? I just had this happen while making a new world state. I've always been prompted before to change the gender/class of my warden but not not this time And than when choosing a mage Hawke I was able to have Bethany live. I've reported them as bugs but just wondering if anyone else has had this happen with Alister as I have seen posts about Hawke mage and Bethany alive. 

[CENIC]

Oh yeah Sorry nevermind

 

Don't apologize! Even if you didn't bring Leliana with you to the Sacred Ashes, she would confront you in camp and if you defiled them you'd have to pass a persuasion check to keep her around... definitely don't blame you for suspecting something similar with Anders. 

[DameGrace]

Has anyone been able to romance Alister as a male human mage and than also been able to become his Queen? I just had this happen while making a new world state. I've always been prompted before to change the gender/class of my warden but not not this time

 

If you can tell what steps you took, then I might be able to try it in my world state. As of now, I have tried several variations, but this bug doesn't appear. 

 

(I understand that we, as beta testers, should try different variations and essentially try to 'break' the Keep, but every time somebody reports an issue in this thread and I try to recreate it, I feel like I'm ravaging the Keep)

[Lumix19]

Don't apologize! Even if you didn't bring Leliana with you to the Sacred Ashes, she would confront you in camp and if you defiled them you'd have to pass a persuasion check to keep her around... definitely don't blame you for suspecting something similar with Anders.

  

Thanks, yeah I was thinking along those lines.

Has anyone been able to romance Alister as a male human mage and than also been able to become his Queen? I just had this happen while making a new world state. I've always been prompted before to change the gender/class of my warden but not not this time And than when choosing a mage Hawke I was able to have Bethany live. I've reported them as bugs but just wondering if anyone else has had this happen with Alister as I have seen posts about Hawke mage and Bethany alive.

I didn't experience the Alistair bug when I created a new world state but I did have the Bethany one. I also notice I cant delete world states

[jenncircus]

If you can tell what steps you took, then I might be able to try it in my world state. As of now, I have tried several variations, but this bug doesn't appear. 

 

(I understand that we, as beta testers, should try different variations and essentially try to 'break' the Keep, but every time somebody reports an issue in this thread and I try to recreate it, I feel like I'm ravaging the Keep)

No Problem.

1st I chose one of my male mage wardens.

2 chose warden lived

3 went to choose companions and I chose Leliana

4 did nature of the beast and paragon of her kind

5 went to chose companions and for fun decided to try Alister and I was able to.

6 in companions I could not chose Alister as King so I went to did warden remain Alisters mistress and chose warden as Alister's Queen and was able to and the tile for who is King said Alister.

Hope that help you ravage!

[jenncircus]

If you can tell what steps you took, then I might be able to try it in my world state. As of now, I have tried several variations, but this bug doesn't appear. 

 

(I understand that we, as beta testers, should try different variations and essentially try to 'break' the Keep, but every time somebody reports an issue in this thread and I try to recreate it, I feel like I'm ravaging the Keep)

Hi I have another for you to check out.

Chose female human mage warden

warden lives

romance Leliana 

go to Urn of Sacred Ashes and defile it (I hate doing that)

Go to Warden Remains mistress and chose Wardens is Alister's Queen.

Leliana tile shows her alive too.

I also locked all those choices and the World state.

Thanks for checking it out.

[DameGrace]

No Problem.
1st I chose one of my male mage wardens.
2 chose warden lived
3 went to choose companions and I chose Leliana
4 did nature of the beast a[/size]nd paragon of her kind
5 went to chose companions and for fun decided to try Alister and I was able to.
6 in companions I could not chose Alister as King so I went to did warden remain Alisters mistress and chose warden as Alister's Queen and was able to and the tile for who is King said Alister.
Hope that help you ravage!

 
Okay, I have tried both ways but so far I've been unsuccessful and it seems the Keep had had enough of my ravaging  :