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#1676
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Interesting. I assumed it was a given after all the 'Keep is intended to resolve all previous import issues' and 'All DLC are assumed to have happened whether you played them or not' over on the main DAI forum.
 
Poor Ultimate Sacrifice...


Here is what David Gaider had to say about the US choice vis-a-vis DAA import and DA2. This was written during DA2 development. "Your Warden was not resurrected in-game. If you imported a DS Warden into Awakening, then you chose to un-do your earlier decision. As to whether you can un-un-do it again when importing into DA2, I really don't have an answer for that yet, sorry."

 

I don't know how DA2 handles an Orlesian Warden DAA import as I've never done it. Since the Warden is never mentioned by name, and the DAO codex entries are broken and incomplete, it shouldn't really matter. The choices are still represented via the quest results like Finding Nathaniel and that is essentially all that matters.

 

If in DAI there is reference to the Warden and the Ultimate Sacrifice, the game might assume that the Orlesian Warden completed the events of DAA. And because this Orlesian Warden isn't the "Hero of Ferelden" there might not be a reason to mention them at all. [Sorry to those who like their OWs.]



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Grieving Natashina

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That could be an interesting feature actually. Suggest it! :)

Done.  ;)



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This isn't really an issue, just a question regarding one of the options in Awakening. Can anyone tell me how in the world you can save both the Keep and Amaranthine? I have played it so many times and never been able to do it.



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This isn't really an issue, just a question regarding one of the options in Awakening. Can anyone tell me how in the world you can save both the Keep and Amaranthine? I have played it so many times and never been able to do it.

 

Check the wiki for the exact details, but if you fully upgrade the Keep and go out to save the city, then the Keep survives as does everyone in it (except for the seneschal, who dies in any situation). I think you also have to have done every companion's side-quest.


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Grieving Natashina

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Check the wiki for the exact details, but if you fully upgrade the Keep and go out to save the city, then the Keep survives as does everyone in it (except for the seneschal, who dies in any situation). I think you also have to have done every companion's side-quest.

Yep.  Sadly, some of those quests are bugged out though.  :(

 

@Didalynn If you play on PC, check out this thread of mods.  It contains the links to fix broken quests.

 

http://forum.bioware...r-pc-awakening/


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Thank you @Natashina and @crowskin for answering.  I do play on PC so that link will be a great help.



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Grieving Natashina

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Thank you @Natashina and @crowskin for answering.  I do play on PC so that link will be a great help.

Ah, awesome.  And no problem.  :D



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Yep.  Sadly, some of those quests are bugged out though.   :(

 

So it's not possible on the XBox version to save both the city and keep?

 

I love the fact that the Keep will allow us to overcome some of these bugs, like letting my male noble Warden marry Anora and let Alistair remain with the Wardens without the game thinking that Alistair's King.



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So it's not possible on the XBox version to save both the city and keep?

 

 

It's possible. I remember doing it before.



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Hi guys.  I was wondering if anyone had encountered any issues in reporting bugs either due to Firefox or using windows 8.  I'm trying to report a bug but when I try to report a bug, it 1) takes a fairly long time to bring up the inital bug reporting page, 2) the drop down to select what kind of issue I'm reporting doesn't really want to work.  I have to keep hitting b on my keyboard to get it to choose bug because all the drop down does is flicker when I try to click on it, 3) it won't actually let me type in the text box what the issue I'm having is.

This is my first day in the Keep, so I'm still trying to get this all figured out.  I was simply wondering if maybe it's something about my computer itself that's causing the issue or if anyone else has had a hard time reporting issues too.



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I exclusively use FF, never had to use Chrome to run the Keep, or any other website for that matter. What is your problem with FF and Keep?

 

The PS3 and 360s browsers do in fact have HTML5 capabilities, but not any of the capabilities that the Keep needs so that is kind of moot lol (Funny enough, my Vita can run the Keep)

 

It's the ISS mostly, it runs choppy (not horribad, but it's noticeable especially when I then open it up in Chrome and it's smooth as silk) and actually skips dialogue sections...  Like for example (and I am just making this up to give you an example)

 

Say the full dialouge is this...

 

The Warden Killed the Archdemon and the darkspawn fled underground.   Ferelden was safe.

 

 

Well, for me on Firefox it goes The Warden killed the Arch-  Ferelden was safe.

 

I don't know what the problem is, but it only does these things on Firefox. :(



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So it's not possible on the XBox version to save both the city and keep?

 

Keep in mind that there are different bugs on different platforms. Check here for the bugs that may or may not apply to you.


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Hi guys.  I was wondering if anyone had encountered any issues in reporting bugs either due to Firefox or using windows 8.  I'm trying to report a bug but when I try to report a bug, it 1) takes a fairly long time to bring up the inital bug reporting page, 2) the drop down to select what kind of issue I'm reporting doesn't really want to work.  I have to keep hitting b on my keyboard to get it to choose bug because all the drop down does is flicker when I try to click on it, 3) it won't actually let me type in the text box what the issue I'm having is.

This is my first day in the Keep, so I'm still trying to get this all figured out.  I was simply wondering if maybe it's something about my computer itself that's causing the issue or if anyone else has had a hard time reporting issues too.

Do you have any adblocking software active? I recall hearing some other people mention that some ad blockers can stop the script for the feedback button.



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Yepper, agree completely. It has nothing to do with being lazy, someone might have no desire to play older games but still might want to see different paths in DAI. DG said that if you did the Dark Ritual that the choice "won't be ignored" and "have more than a passing reference in DAI." IMO that's pretty significant and a new player might want to tinker with the choices in the Keep to see the variable outcomes in DAI.

Part of the purpose of the Keep is so that people are not required to play previous games.

As far as a codex goes, I don't think it's necessary. The Keep has a description of the quest that's satisfactory for the most part. If a player wants to delve deeper into the implications of the quest or other lore aspects the DAwiki is always there for that purpose. I am a big advocate of accommodating new players to a franchise and doing things to reduce confusion -- it was part of my Keep Beta application --, but BioWare doesn't have to spoon feed everything to those players. There ARE other resources available and if they are really interested a minor  amount of effort (read: a simple Google search) is needed to find out some things.
 
 

 


Well I'm sorry this is the case for you where you live, but it doesn't apply to everyone. On Amazon you can buy ALL three types (PC disc, Xbox 360, PS3, as well as PC download) of DAO Ultimate Edition and DA2 (standard). I've been preordering games and expansions from them for many years and have never had a problem. Ever.

 

But the point is, some people still prefer physical copies.  Like for example, I have the Blu-Ray of Ginger Snaps.  I went nuts when it was announced, preordered it on Amazon, and paid it off with a gift card to just be 100% sure nothing stopped me from getting it release day (and in fact due to shipping times, I got it a day sooner... bad Amazon!).  I could have gotten it a lot cheaper from iTunes.  But, I wanted the blu-ray, the physical copy of one of my favorite movies.   As for the preorders thing, I will admit I've never preordered from Amazon, but release day shipping is hella expensive when I can just drive down to GameStop and pick it up. Costs me maybe $1 compared to $10-15 for release day shipping.  Glad you have $15 to throw away on shipping for a game you can just as easily drive 5 miles and pick up.

 

"Doesn't apply to everyone" really you had to tell me that? Thanks, I swear I didn't know that I wasn't living in a huge metropolitan area.

 

Looking at your links, yes it looks like for those games there are still reasonable prices, so it would be easy to order them from Amazon but that isn't the case with all games, or even in my experience most games.   It's especially not the case if one wants to digital download the Xbox 360 version.  There is no "Ultimate" or other package deal, so you are looking at a grand total of 73.91 (or 62.66 if you are Gold as the base game is currently on sale, and that's all before tax) to get the entire game, and I'm not even sure if that includes the Blood Dragon armor or not.



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Ok so I'm having an interesting problem.

When I load up the Keep, under Awakening, the choice for Oghren shows "did not help."  Upon clicking on it, it shows the option as "locked," but it still allows me to change it.

No matter what I do; unlocking, locking, changing world states, locking the world, etc... Upon closing the tab and reopening the Keep the choice has reverted to "Did not help."

Anyone else having this issue or something similiar?



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Grieving Natashina

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Ok so I'm having an interesting problem.

When I load up the Keep, under Awakening, the choice for Oghren shows "did not help."  Upon clicking on it, it shows the option as "locked," but it still allows me to change it.

No matter what I do; unlocking, locking, changing world states, locking the world, etc... Upon closing the tab and reopening the Keep the choice has reverted to "Did not help."

Anyone else having this issue or something similiar?

Yep.  That's actually on a small list of choices that aren't saving at all.  From what I've gathered, we should see another update in the next day or so. 



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It's the ISS mostly, it runs choppy (not horribad, but it's noticeable especially when I then open it up in Chrome and it's smooth as silk) and actually skips dialogue sections...  Like for example (and I am just making this up to give you an example)

 

Say the full dialouge is this...

 

The Warden Killed the Archdemon and the darkspawn fled underground.   Ferelden was safe.

 

 

Well, for me on Firefox it goes The Warden killed the Arch-  Ferelden was safe.

 

I don't know what the problem is, but it only does these things on Firefox. :(

Good thing you posted it, i don´t have my speakers at the moment and i thought it was a problem with my headphones (since they´re old), but if you´re having similar problems with firefox i need to report it then lml



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I've been having a problem with some choices in the keep that keep resetting themselves, and I I was correcting one of them again, I was thinking: Is there actually a way to recruit Shale without encountering Kitty and Amalia?



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Nope, it's part of the stone prisoner quest. Don't worry about the resetting tabs they will be fixed soon enough



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I've been having a problem with some choices in the keep that keep resetting themselves, and I I was correcting one of them again, I was thinking: Is there actually a way to recruit Shale without encountering Kitty and Amalia?

 

No. You have to deal with Kitty and Amalia in some fashion. There are many variants, but you have to try.

 

Yeah, some of the choices are resetting. Hopefully, they'll get fixed in the next update.



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Nope, it's part of the stone prisoner quest. Don't worry about the resetting tabs they will be fixed soon enough

 

No. You have to deal with Kitty and Amalia in some fashion. There are many variants, but you have to try.

 

Yeah, some of the choices are resetting. Hopefully, they'll get fixed in the next update.

 

That's what I thought, yet the Keep permits it.



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That's what I thought, yet the Keep permits it.

 

Report it, then. That's the whole point of having a beta-period. To find mistakes, report them, and have them get fixed.



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I did. I just wanted to make sure first I wasn't mistaken about it. No point sending false reports.



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I did. I just wanted to make sure first I wasn't mistaken about it. No point sending false reports.

You could also check the wiki for plot things you're not sure about.

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I don't know how DA2 handles an Orlesian Warden DAA import as I've never done it. Since the Warden is never mentioned by name, and the DAO codex entries are broken and incomplete, it shouldn't really matter. The choices are still represented via the quest results like Finding Nathaniel and that is essentially all that matters.

 

If in DAI there is reference to the Warden and the Ultimate Sacrifice, the game might assume that the Orlesian Warden completed the events of DAA. And because this Orlesian Warden isn't the "Hero of Ferelden" there might not be a reason to mention them at all. [Sorry to those who like their OWs.]

 

I'm doing such playthrough right now.

My warden did US, than I imported ... err his dead body to Awakening and used the trick to change warden background to orlesian. So I play with orlesian warden (with all appropriate choices and consequences) with my origin warden choices from main campaign. Then I imported this resulting save into DA2. All plot flags were recognized correctly (Warden choices, US and orlesian warden choices).

I would like both my wardens mentioned, if they are mentioned at all.


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