Yeah that's one thing that always bothered me about Vigil's Keep, I put all the time/effort/money into upgrading it and it seemed what without my personal presence during it's defense it was guarenteed to fall. In that case why bother to upgrade it at all?
All companions left behind end up dead. If fully upgraded then some survive or their fate is left up in the air.
I know there seem to be some hiccups with all of Alistair's choices. I skimmed through and didn't see this mentioned (but I'm on my phone so...) during the Landsmeet choices I had Alistair set to remain a grey warden who defeated Loghain in a duel but that option doesn't play out during the ISS and isn't an option to switch to. It has him executing Loghain while wearing a crown. Same result arguably but it confused the heck out of me. Might confuse others as well?
I don't think it's a bug. Since there is no option to pick a duel and the ISS just covers basic choices, I would think a duel and a post duel execution count as the same. The biggest ISS oversight seems to be that there is no option to have Branka destroy the Anvil of the Void. It makes either option sound way inaccurate.
Then I suppose my warrior Hawke and Cullen weren't friends after all. That "mages aren't people like you and me" line rubbed my Hawke the wrong way. He's a very protective brother.
The problem I have with one of my Hawkes is that I genuinely don't remember having a strong opinion about him either way. She didn't hate him or even really dislike him, but he wasn't exactly a friend either.
Did these new tiles problem show up when they disable the syncing? I know that they probably aren't connected but it does seem weird. 
I only seem to be able to find Legacy DLC in the Keep for DA2. I can find things for other DLC in other areas, like Sebastian being recruited, or kissing Tallis. Should the other DLC have their own sections, or is everything else covered in other sections?
I only seem to be able to find Legacy DLC in the Keep for DA2. I can find things for other DLC in other areas, like Sebastian being recruited, or kissing Tallis. Should the other DLC have their own sections, or is everything else covered in other sections?
Sebastian and Tallis are in the Companions section.
The broken Circle choices (Siding with mages all the way) and Hawke liking Cullen or not will probably relate to Cullen quest line with a good outcome for Cullen.
In DA1 If Irving didn't die, you didn't kill the mages on Cullens behalf, supported mages vs templars and made friends with Cullen in DA2 as Hawke. Cullen probably goes against the templars like DA2 (if hawke was pro mage) like the DA2 ending where he decides Meredith has gone too far and lets Hawke leave and doesn't arrest him.
Vigils Keep has been fixed anyway since it can survive by itself now along with Amarathine which means the Grey Wardens will show up (Blackwalls Quest). This is all speculation of course but saving stuff = probably an ally in the future like ME3 or it could bite you.
I only seem to be able to find Legacy DLC in the Keep for DA2. I can find things for other DLC in other areas, like Sebastian being recruited, or kissing Tallis. Should the other DLC have their own sections, or is everything else covered in other sections?
It's already covered by the Companions tab. The only choices you get in Exiled Prince are to recruit Sebastian or not, and to romance him or not. The only choices you get in MotA are to flirt with Tallis or annoy her, everything else in the plot is decided for you.
The broken Circle choices (Siding with mages all the way) and Hawke liking Cullen or not will probably relate to Cullen quest line with a good outcome for Cullen.
In DA1 If Irving didn't die, you didn't kill the mages on Cullens behalf, supported mages vs templars and made friends with Cullen in DA2 as Hawke. Cullen probably goes against the templars like DA2 (if hawke was pro mage) like the DA2 ending where he decides Meredith has gone too far and lets Hawke leave and doesn't arrest him.
Doubtful. These Cullen tiles have been added very, very recently, way after the game was considered content complete, much too late to tie back into the game in any meaningful way. They're probably more there for flavor, to let you express the personality of you Warden/Hawke in your Tapestry, than to determine Cullen's personality in DAI.
But there is an option to pick a duel in the keep just not when it gets to that part in the ISS and Alistair shouldn't be wearing a crown if I don't make him king. It's not a big deal to me but if it's something that was simply overlooked or the choice isn't popping up like it should (because there seems to be space for it) then that's a boo boo.I don't think it's a bug. Since there is no option to pick a duel and the ISS just covers basic choices, I would think a duel and a post duel execution count as the same. The biggest ISS oversight seems to be that there is no option to have Branka destroy the Anvil of the Void. It makes either option sound way inaccurate.
4 piles of Lyrium Dust to the Bomb-maker, guards if asked
4-ish different Metals to Wade, and guards as well
Give 80 gold to the dwarf builder, as well as the Granite sample and guards
Defend All three when asked during the Oath swearing (city, farms, trade)
Choose to save Amaranthine.
This will Save both city and keep. I take Nathaniel, Justice and Velanna. Sigrun dies, but Anders and Oghren (if quests done) survive.
Also, did anyone besides myself actually get Sebastian (Exiled Prince DLC for DA 2) forced join by Elthina? You can not "recruit" Sebastian during the first two acts, then get the quest to see Sister Nightingale from Elthina, thus gaining Sebastian anyways?
4 piles of Lyrium Dust to the Bomb-maker, guards if asked
4-ish different Metals to Wade, and guards as well
Give 80 gold to the dwarf builder, as well as the Granite sample and guards
Defend All three when asked during the Oath swearing (city, farms, trade)
Choose to save Amaranthine.
This will Save both city and keep. I take Nathaniel, Justice and Velanna. Sigrun dies, but Anders and Oghren (if quests done) survive.
Also, did anyone besides myself actually get Sebastian (Exiled Prince DLC for DA 2) forced join by Elthina? You can not "recruit" Sebastian during the first two acts, then get the quest to see Sister Nightingale from Elthina, thus gaining Sebastian anyways?
I always recruited Sebastian myself, but I have heard of that happening. I think it is because of the DLC he is standing there at the podium in the Chantry.
It's already covered by the Companions tab. The only choices you get in Exiled Prince are to recruit Sebastian or not, and to romance him or not. The only choices you get in MotA are to flirt with Tallis or annoy her, everything else in the plot is decided for you.
Doubtful. These Cullen tiles have been added very, very recently, way after the game was considered content complete, much too late to tie back into the game in any meaningful way. They're probably more there for flavor, to let you express the personality of you Warden/Hawke in your Tapestry, than to determine Cullen's personality in DAI.
Or they already had the coding for the Cullen tiles in the Keep or had the flags in DAI along before we realize and only now revealing them. The only reason why I suspect this is both tiles weren't exactly in high demand, especially the Hawke/cullen one. This makes me think they intended to add them from the start but wanted to get more key tiles in the Keep first.
You can save up to 9 different world states with the latest update.
Thank you so much! Now off to make more world states.
But there is an option to pick a duel in the keep just not when it gets to that part in the ISS and Alistair shouldn't be wearing a crown if I don't make him king. It's not a big deal to me but if it's something that was simply overlooked or the choice isn't popping up like it should (because there seems to be space for it) then that's a boo boo.
Edit: I just pointed it in terms of confusion. If it ends in the same result maybe the duel should be removed. Or vise versa.
Honestly, I think it's just a minor art shortcut to make the ISS more convenient.
Or they already had the coding for the Cullen tiles in the Keep or had the flags in DAI along before we realize and only now revealing them. The only reason why I suspect this is both tiles weren't exactly in high demand, especially the Hawke/cullen one. This makes me think they intended to add them from the start but wanted to get more key tiles in the Keep first.
The Hawke tile I do agree, seems pretty blatant a check to see if Cullen will react well or poorly to Hawke reappearing. I very much support this tile existing if that's the reason, because my main Hawke and Cullen were very friendly and I'd be mortified if he trash-talked her or treated her badly in Inquisition as a lot of people like to picture in fanart. But they did come in awful late in the beta, only a couple weeks ago, so we'll have to wait and see.
The Hawke tile I do agree, seems pretty blatant a check to see if Cullen will react well or poorly to Hawke reappearing. I very much support this tile existing if that's the reason, because my main Hawke and Cullen were very friendly and I'd be mortified if he trash-talked her or treated her badly in Inquisition as a lot of people like to picture in fanart. But they did come in awful late in the beta, only a couple weeks ago, so we'll have to wait and see.
I also like the friends with Cullen tile. If we only had tiles for the choices that would impact Inquisition we would figure out the story ahead of time. We need a few red herring and personal decisions in the tapestry without bogging down the system.
Hey guys, is anyone else having a problem submitting feedback with specific web browsers? I'm currently using Mozilla Firefox (version 32.0.3) and both sections on the Keep that allow feedback submissions aren't working at all for me. I can submit feedback using IE9, though, as already noted by the Keep staff none of the images display properly and I can't scroll through the tapestry. I know that Chrome is the 'ideal' browser for using the Keep, but I just wanted to know if any Mozilla users were experiencing the same issue.
Also, I've read through a number of the posts regarding the "saving Vigil's Keep and Amaranthine" choice, but I'm still a bit confused. Do we have 'official' confirmation from anyone at Bioware if this option is supposed to pertain to those who fully upgraded Vigil's Keep but chose to leave it to defend Amaranthine, or is this a completely new option they have added in that wasn't available in game?
And that Cullen friendship tile is somewhat perplexing as well because at no point do I recall there being an option for Hawke to become overtly friendly or unfriendly with him. There were options where you could agree or disagree with his views, but that was about it. Is that what is being used as the basis for their friendship? I doubt it because that probably would (or should) have raised a conflict flag for anyone that wanted to be friendly with him but sided with the Mages overall.
Anyway, thanks for your help in advance!
Hey guys, is anyone else having a problem submitting feedback with specific web browsers? I'm currently using Mozilla Firefox (version 32.0.3) and both sections on the Keep that allow feedback submissions aren't working at all for me. I can submit feedback using IE9, though, as already noted by the Keep staff none of the images display properly and I can't scroll through the tapestry. I know that Chrome is the 'ideal' browser for using the Keep, but I just wanted to know if any Mozilla users were experiencing the same issue.
Also, I've read through a number of the posts regarding the "saving Vigil's Keep and Amaranthine" choice, but I'm still a bit confused. Do we have 'official' confirmation from anyone at Bioware if this option is supposed to pertain to those who fully upgraded Vigil's Keep but chose to leave it to defend Amaranthine, or is this a completely new option they have added in that wasn't available in game?
And that Cullen friendship tile is somewhat perplexing as well because at no point do I recall there being an option for Hawke to become overtly friendly or unfriendly with him. There were options where you could agree or disagree with his views, but that was about it. Is that what is being used as the basis for their friendship? I doubt it because that probably would (or should) have raised a conflict flag for anyone that wanted to be friendly with him but sided with the Mages overall.
Anyway, thanks for your help in advance!
I think the devs mentioned in one of the Twitch streams that they added the "Keep and Amaranthine protected" option it because of popular request, so it stands to reason that it refers to people who fully upgraded the Keep and then chose to protect Amaranthine and not a completely new option they made up for the Keep (especially since that's kind of the opposite of the Keep's function).
As for the Cullen friendship I think it's mostly meant to be a character-building tile, like the recently added one in the Broken Circle section in Origins on whether the Warden agreed to Cullen's request. Cullen is going to be a major character in DAI and Hawke is going to show up so this tile might change the way Cullen talks/reacts about Hawke.
The Goldanna choices (Denerim section), Marjorlaine choices(Denerim section), Grimoire (Companion section), and Kitty/Amalia Fate (Stone Prisoner DLC section) still reset to not getting involved bug. The Cullen relation choice (DA2 Companion section) still reset to "Cullen was not friend".
It fix for short term save but it will reset every day back to "Did not do this Quest" every day.
The Goldanna choices (Denerim section), Marjorlaine choices(Denerim section), Grimoire (Companion section), and Kitty/Amalia Fate (Stone Prisoner DLC section) still reset to not getting involved bug. The Cullen relation choice (DA2 Companion section) still reset to "Cullen was not friend".
These are resetting for me as well. A work-around to this bug was mentioned in the last Twitch stream I believe, which was to delete the world state(s) that were resetting and start over. All my world states had this problem so I deleted all of them and started one over for now, the only change was that now these choices took a little longer to reset.
Did these new tiles problem show up when they disable the syncing? I know that they probably aren't connected but it does seem weird.
I sort of feel like that was when it started too, but I thought it was just a weird idea I had. 
And that Cullen friendship tile is somewhat perplexing as well because at no point do I recall there being an option for Hawke to become overtly friendly or unfriendly with him. There were options where you could agree or disagree with his views, but that was about it. Is that what is being used as the basis for their friendship? I doubt it because that probably would (or should) have raised a conflict flag for anyone that wanted to be friendly with him but sided with the Mages overall.
This is pretty arcane and few people seem to have noticed it, but Cullen does change his disposition towards Hawke in Act 3 depending on how you've spoken to him and/or how you've been handling the mage/templar-related quests. If you're very pro-mage, to the point of openly arguing with him about it (with such dialogue options as "It's the Templars' fault" / "mages must be free!"), in Act 3 Cullen will greet Hawke with "you've been less of a friend to the Templars." If you've been neutral/agreeable/not argumentative in dialogue with him, he will greet you as "good to see an old friend."
It does take you at least two radically different playthroughs paying special attention to a rather minor character to notice that this is even there at all, but it is. Generally, the more neutral/pro-Templar you are, the more friendly he becomes, and the more abrasive/pro-mage you are, the less friendly he gets. It is possible to play pro-mage and still be friendly with Cullen, though - you just can't be excessively contrarian when talking to him. If you go for neutral dialogue choices (say, rather than "all mages must be free" or "all Templars are evil," you answer "both sides have their flaws" or something), he'll still regard you as a friend.
For Keep purposes, because this would take an unwieldy amount of work to go back through your saves to check (if you even have them), this choice can be made based on your Hawke's personality/beliefs. You can guess whether your Hawke is the type to make friends with Templars or not from their general disposition. And ultimately, it can be treated as more of "how do you want Cullen to remember Hawke in DAI" question. Even if this flag turns out to not do anything after all, it's a good way to guess what you should choose for each of your Hawkes.
Hey guys, is anyone else having a problem submitting feedback with specific web browsers? I'm currently using Mozilla Firefox (version 32.0.3) and both sections on the Keep that allow feedback submissions aren't working at all for me. I can submit feedback using IE9, though, as already noted by the Keep staff none of the images display properly and I can't scroll through the tapestry. I know that Chrome is the 'ideal' browser for using the Keep, but I just wanted to know if any Mozilla users were experiencing the same issue.
I've not had any trouble submitting feedback on Firefox; what device are you using? Any other factors you can think of that might affect it? I have, however had the reverting tiles problem return (even on a deleted/rebuilt world state).
have still isue with
Flemeth's grimoire
Goldanna
Marjolaine
Ogren & Felsi
Amelia & Kitty
have tryied the fix that was in the stream and that did not work.
hope they fix the problems with
Flemeth's grimoire
Goldanna
Marjolaine
Ogren & Felsi
Amelia & Kitty
You forgot cullen and hawke being friends.
Those six tiles seem to be affecting most so it's a well known issue.
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