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[Torgoe]

My apologies if this has already been discussed by veteran Keepers but I noticed that in my Tapestry a Warden who is dead is still able to go through the Eluvian with Morrigan, which seems to be bit of a plot discrepancy.

[Devil's Avocado]

Didn't we get friend codes to help bring in beta testers? If so where do I find them?

if you recently joined the keep (after the friend and family give away) then you don't get any codes to give away. If before the codes will be located in the feedback drop down menu.

[riverbanks]

Well that sucks....the implication being all the mages are dead anyway so there is no one to side with?

 

No, the mages you left in the room where you meet Wynne are still alive. It's simply that, when you start the quest, Greagoir tells you he will only believe the Circle can be saved if Irving himself is brought back alive to say the mages are safe and should be spared. That's his condition to let you into the tower. If you let Irving die, Greagoir will not accept any excuses and will go on with the annulment no matter what you say.

 

My apologies if this has already been discussed by veteran Keepers but I noticed that in my Tapestry a Warden who is dead is still able to go through the Eluvian with Morrigan, which seems to be bit of a plot discrepancy.

 

If your Warden is dead, the one who goes through the Eluvian with Morrigan (or stabs her, or lets her go) is your Orlesian Warden, the one you created for Awakening. It's a valid world state, just needs to be made clearer in the Keep.

 

This kind of confusing mismatch is just one of the many reasons why that Orlesian Warden tile really needs to exist.

[riverbanks]

As someone pointed out earlier in the thread, it is totally possible for a male Warden to talk Morrigan into doing the ritual with Alistair or Loghain (I actually did this on my first play-through with a Cousland who didn't want to cheat on Leliana). Not sure if it's still possible when you're in an active romance with Morrigan herself.

 

That's curious, I've never been able to pass the torch to Alistair or Loghain with a male Warden, Morrigan either demands the Warden himself does the ritual or just walks out. No options to think it over. Do you remember more or less the line of dialogue you followed to get this option? I thought I'd explored all the branches in that dialogue, but maybe there was something I missed there.

[Evamitchelle]

Well that sucks....the implication being all the mages are dead anyway so there is no one to side with? Now if I could just stop getting that stupid "your world state can't be saved because it's locked" (no, it isn't!  ) message, maybe I could make the change and have it stick.

 

It's because Greagoir says he will only believe that the Circle is safe if he hears it from Irving himself. If Irving dies, Greagoir just goes ahead with the Right of Annulment. 

 

No, the mages you left in the room where you meet Wynne are still alive. It's simply that, when you start the quest, Greagoir tells you he will only believe the Circle can be saved if Irving himself is brought back alive to say the mages are safe and should be spared. That's his condition to let you into the tower. If you let Irving die, Greagoir will not accept any excuses and will go on with the annulment no matter what you say.

 

 

If your Warden is dead, the one who goes through the Eluvian with Morrigan (or stabs her, or lets her go) is your Orlesian Warden, the one you created for Awakening. It's a valid world state, just needs to be made clearer in the Keep.

 

This kind of confusing mismatch is just one of the many reasons why that Orlesian Warden tile really needs to exist.

 

Except the Orlesian Warden still can't go through the eluvian with Morrigan because he couldn't have romanced her, so it isn't a valid worldstate.

[Torgoe]

Except the Orlesian Warden still can't go through the eluvian with Morrigan because he couldn't have romanced her, so it isn't a valid worldstate.

 

Percisly. It is a choice that is dependent on a Warden who romanced Morrigan, which the Orlesian Grey Warden cannot do. The only choices the Orleasian Grey Warden has is stab Morrigan or let her go through the eluvian, correct?

[Evamitchelle]

Percisly. It is a choice that is dependent on a Warden who romanced Morrigan, which the Orlesian Grey Warden cannot do. The only choices the Orleasian Grey Warden has is stab Morrigan or let her go through the eluvian, correct?

 

Yeah that's right, stab or let go.

 

Did your dead Warden romance Morrigan at least ? Maybe the Keep is resurrecting your Warden instead of using a default Orlesian Warden.

[Melbella]

No, the mages you left in the room where you meet Wynne are still alive. It's simply that, when you start the quest, Greagoir tells you he will only believe the Circle can be saved if Irving himself is brought back alive to say the mages are safe and should be spared. That's his condition to let you into the tower. If you let Irving die, Greagoir will not accept any excuses and will go on with the annulment no matter what you say.

It's because Greagoir says he will only believe that the Circle is safe if he hears it from Irving himself. If Irving dies, Greagoir just goes ahead with the Right of Annulment.

So like I said....all the mages are dead (or soon will be) so there's no one left to side with except the templars.   That's why I never side with the templars (except to get achievements).

[Torgoe]

Yeah that's right, stab or let go.

 

Did your dead Warden romance Morrigan at least ? Maybe the Keep is resurrecting your Warden instead of using a default Orlesian Warden.

 

I played around with the Tapestry and it seems going through the Eluvian with Morrigan is contingent on a Morrigan romance. So that aspect of the choice is correct.

[Torgoe]

Again, as someone new to the Keep, is there a plan to add an Orlesian Grey Warden choice to the tapestry?

[Evamitchelle]

I played around with the Tapestry and it seems going through the Eluvian with Morrigan is contingent on a Morrigan romance. So that aspect of the choice is correct.

 

So it looks like the Orlesian Warden doesn't exist in the Keep, it just does like Awakening and resurrects the dead Warden.

 

Again, as someone new to the Keep, is there a plan to add an Orlesian Grey Warden choice to the tapestry?

 

The devs said in the last twitch stream that they'd try to get the OW in the Keep, but that it's not a certainty.

[Ajadea]

Goddamm this is so frustrating. My six choices (grimoire, goldanna, marjolaine etc) seemed to no longer reset (checked like 15 minutes after correcting them). Now I just logged in the Keep, hours later, and there you go: all have reset again.

I've been having the same problem too. The resetting choices I have found are Flemeth's Grimoire, Marjolaine, and Goldanna in Origins, plus Oghren/Felsi in Awakening. There might be others but I can't remember them off the top of my head.

[Torgoe]

That's curious, I've never been able to pass the torch to Alistair or Loghain with a male Warden, Morrigan either demands the Warden himself does the ritual or just walks out. No options to think it over. Do you remember more or less the line of dialogue you followed to get this option? I thought I'd explored all the branches in that dialogue, but maybe there was something I missed there.

 

If memory serves you can see this if your Warden is male and he turns down the ritual. Morrigan should suggest using Alistair or Loghain instead.

[Torgoe]

The devs said in the last twitch stream that they'd try to get the OW in the Keep, but that it's not a certainty.

 

Ah, many thanks.

 

The OW would solve many issues going forward. Here's hoping, if not at launch then sometime down the road.

[TheLastSuperSaiyan87]

I've been having the same problem too. The resetting choices I have found are Flemeth's Grimoire, Marjolaine, and Goldanna in Origins, plus Oghren/Felsi in Awakening. There might be others but I can't remember them off the top of my head.

the resetting tiles are a known bug that everyone has been having, its being worked on 

[Socks92]

is anyone having issues about bringing your origins character over? it shows up in my registered games but i don't see a player profile for it? 

[Dust Mephit]

Syncing is down.

 

Now, is there a problem with the following world state? I'm sure I've got it but my savegames are currently unavailable to check.

 

Female Cousland

Romances Alistair

Gives the throne to Anora

Persuades Alistair to perform the ritual with Morrigan

Skips off into the sunset with Alistair to be a warden for the rest of her life

 

Maybe I'm missing/forgetting something but the tapestry insists that Morrigan/Alistair shenanigans only occur when Alistair is king. Is that right?

[Tenz83]

What if you went through your playthrough like

Origins -> Witch Hunt -> awakening -> GOA

wouldn't be possible to have your main Warden live and go through awakening and GOA and have the Orlesian Warden go through the Witch Hunt expansion?

[The Bear Muse]

Didn't we get friend codes to help bring in beta testers? If so where do I find them?

 

Everyone left on the beta list should get in tomorrow. Then the beta gets opened to everyone on October 29th (if all goes as scheduled).

[The Dwarven Smithy]

What if you went through your playthrough like

Origins -> Witch Hunt -> awakening -> GOA

wouldn't be possible to have your main Warden live and go through awakening and GOA and have the Orlesian Warden go through the Witch Hunt expansion?

 

There's a specific order you have to play the DLC's in order to have the continuity/carry on from previous installments:

DAO > Awakening > GoA > WH (You can play Leliana's Song at any time)

[FreedomFighterD]

I've noticed that three tiles seem to reset my choices everytime I log back in. The Goldanna, Flemeth Grimiore and Marjoine tiles  will not keep the choices I pick one I leave the Keep for a few hours. Anyone getting that Bug? 

I've reported it so hopeful it will be fixed on release.

[HereticDante]

Lots of people are getting that bug with the decisions added in the 2nd last update. If you create a new world state rather than just changing your current one, they should stop resetting.

[Evamitchelle]

Syncing is down.

 

Now, is there a problem with the following world state? I'm sure I've got it but my savegames are currently unavailable to check.

 

Female Cousland

Romances Alistair

Gives the throne to Anora

Persuades Alistair to perform the ritual with Morrigan

Skips off into the sunset with Alistair to be a warden for the rest of her life

 

Maybe I'm missing/forgetting something but the tapestry insists that Morrigan/Alistair shenanigans only occur when Alistair is king. Is that right?

 

This is a perfectly valid world state. The problem is that the Morrigan OGB tile prompts a lot of unnecessary changes. The best way to deal with it is to set "Morrigan had an old god baby with Alistair" first, agree to any changes it proposes, and then just reset the other tiles. There won't be any conflict that way. 

[boogieN7]

Lots of people are getting that bug with the decisions added in the 2nd last update. If you create a new world state rather than just changing your current one, they should stop resetting.

I tried, they don't 

[AbsolutGrndZer0]

Not sure if this is a bug or not but I submitted it anyway. I'm trying to create a world state with all possible dead so under Broken Circle I picked "Irving died in the battle". Then the autosolver wanted me to change from supporting the mages to supporting the templars. What if the intention was to save Irving but the Warden wasn't able to? I know that actually happened to me the first couple of times I played the game since I didn't understand the mechanic of how the litany worked.

 

 

According to the wiki, if Irving died then you can't side with the mages.

 

Correct, I've done this in fact, in order to recruit Wynne, yet still side with the Templars.  So, you tell her you will help her, and you "try" but don't use the Litany of Adralla so that Irving is turned into an abomination and you are forced to kill him.  So then, when you leave Gregaoir has no choice but to purge the circle.  He lets Wynne live only, because he knows that she helped you, and that she will be needed to start the new circle.