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#26
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BPP has bad accuracy and kicks a lot. 

 

Understatement! But with the SMG Stability Mod it's actually quite manageable. The Vorcha Soldiertends to fire short bursts in between Flamer and Carnage so mild recoil movement is OK.

 

Also, didn't Megabeast (sorely missed as he is) make a thread recently(-ish) in which he talked about using the scope to make the BPP behave better?



#27
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TNS, the master of understatement. I remember someone here posting that after you've been hit by a seeker swarm the bullets basically come out the gun backwards :P

Ha ha an other proof of how awesome Collectors are :D  ! Thanks cato :) !



#28
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u wot m8

 

cmon triple t, with that dodge asari are never boring

 

nah man, AA is my favorite kit right after turians, it's the paladin that I find kinda boring



#29
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... is the turian soldier the only viable kit for the BPP? (Most boring kit in the game imo....)

Put it on a Vorcha! 



#30
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Also-

 

... the turian soldier ...(Most boring kit in the game imo....)
 

Crazy talk. Give him a Typhoon and just go to Dakka Dakka Town. 



#31
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TSol is by far the best character for the BPP since you get a ton of accuracy, rate of fire, and stability bonuses simultaneously.

The next best is probably Destroyer, although GI isn't bad.

 

The nice thing about the BPP is the ammo capacity is decent enough that you can get away with running the Stability Damper, which is +70% stability.  Alternatively, you can use some of those Stabilization 3's that you have laying around.



#32
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I like the BPP on Vorcha and Turian characters, mainly Vorcha Soldier, Cabal Vanguard and Turian Soldier.

 

The Paladin works well on characters focused on power damage. It is also good to have a power like stasis for easy headshots with this pistol.



#33
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BPP= Dumb weapon. Even with marksman it refuses to consistently land headshots at anything past point blank. And it looks stupid. Put it on quarksman once only to throw it out the airlock and go back to locust after 1 game.

Paladin= pistol that isn't god Arc Pistol= useless

#34
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The increased damage is just an AP shot. A powerful one though.

I also use it on the Quarksman, it's a bit more challenging than TSol.

 

The increased damage does 5x damage and 2.5x damage to armor. That means that every 8th shot should, in theory, give you a fire tick that's significantly more powerful than the ones preceeding it. In theory, that could result in continuous ticks with that damage even from the lower damage shots.



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The increased damage does 5x damage and 2.5x damage to armor. That means that every 8th shot should, in theory, give you a fire tick that's significantly more powerful than the ones preceeding it. In theory, that could result in continuous ticks with that damage even from the lower damage shots.

 

BPP with Marksman goes from

 

DAKKAdakkadakkadakkadakkadakkadakkadakkaDAKKAdakkadakkadakkadakkadakkadakkadakka

 

to

 

DAKKAdaDAKKAdaDAKKAdaDAKKAdaDAKKAdaDAKKAdaDAKKAdaDAKKA

 

don't forget to cease fire after you activate Marksman



#36
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Tried Tsol/BPP last night, not to bad I agree but at range I still can't hit anything other than Atlases or similar sized targets, mook head shots does require almost point blank range....

#37
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Tried Tsol/BPP last night, not to bad I agree but at range I still can't hit anything other than Atlases or similar sized targets, mook head shots does require almost point blank range....

 

Then you're doing something wrong. Marksman is enough to deal with the BPP's horrible accuracy, but it does nothing for stability (and you need a lot of that if you want to hit heads at long distances consistently). The TSol gets 55% stability from his passive, add Barrage Gear and a Stability Module (you should have plenty of those I suppose) and you've got yourself a quasi sniper rifle.

 

Beware that the Turian Passive is bugged. Off host it (sometimes) doesn't work and then the BPP will still kick like a mule. Everything should be fine on host.



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You should only need the Stabilization Module 3 (50%) if you have the 55% from Turian passive, on host of course.

 

If you go Barrage only then you have 85% which is also pretty good.

 

Also the TSol with BPP is obviously best against Reapers just because there is more armor.



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You should only need the Stabilization Module 3 (50%) if you have the 55% from Turian passive, on host of course.

 

If you go Barrage only then you have 85% which is also pretty good.

 

Also the TSol with BPP is obviously best against Reapers just because there is more armor.

 

Agreed. Although Collectors with their giant domes run them reasonably close.

 

What do Stabilization Mods 1 and 2 provide, capn? Cyonan's consumable spreadsheet seems to be wrong, it has them listed at 10% and 20% respectively.



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What do Stabilization Mods 1 and 2 provide, capn? Cyonan's consumable spreadsheet seems to be wrong, it has them listed at 10% and 20% respectively.

 

Yeah it seems like Targeting VI and Stability get a server override because they don't match the game files.

 

I don't know exactly what Stability I is because I couldn't get the right amount to determine if it was 15 or 20%, but I would bet on it being 20%.

 

Stability 2 is 35%.


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#41
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Thanks capn! I though Stability mods only added 10-20-30%. The Barrage Gear is enough for my taste, but it felt kinda cool to recommend those SM for a change.



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Heroic Mass discovered the discrepancy and d_nought also did testing on it.



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Prior to my discovery of the arc pistol, the Paladin was my choice with stasis kits

 

it's very good though, but the carnifex has more utility

 

I have stabilty mod II's sitting around so I've been doing the BPP and overload with the human engie



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Paladin is good on the vanilla Asari, Salarian Infiltrator, QFI, GI, DAI, etc. Paladin is a really good pistol it's just not the Arc Pistol or Talon. I personally like the SI with it the best and stack up all the headshot gear with the cranial ****** mod on it and go hunt mooks down. 

 

BPP IMHO is best on the Turian Soldier or the Destroyer. 



#45
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Tend to use solely on Turian Soldier due to bonuses of stability and RoF.   I've recently managed to max my Paladin to X and it is far better behaved than the previous VI level it was at.  But I do think there are better pistols out there (if you can headshot reliably that is!) such as the Carnifex, Talon and personal favourite - the Arc.

 

Currently just completing all the character challenges remaining so will probably try it on a Destroyer Nuclear.



#46
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BPP= Dumb weapon. Even with marksman it refuses to consistently land headshots at anything past point blank. And it looks stupid. Put it on quarksman once only to throw it out the airlock and go back to locust after 1 game


You should try it again on the superior marksman kit. A little extra stability makes all the difference.

As well as the tsol I've enjoyed it on a Krodept powers build and vorcha, and it isn't bad on the saboteur either

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I like running the Destroyer with the Paladin. Then again, I also like running him with he Canrifax. And when I'm in a really annoying mood, I like running him with the Predator.



#48
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superior marksman kit.

lolno. Tsol is a cool guy but nododge= no bang

Also, stability wasn't my issue with the gun. Sability 3 makes it rock steady. Its the bloom you get when not using hard cover that makes half the shots miss the head at range even of you're on target. It makes an okay boss killer but thats what my quarks carries a saber for.

Given I do have marksman speced for max fire rate instead of accuracy.

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lolno. Tsol is a cool guy but nododge= no bang

 

I have the best dodge

 

We'll bang, ok?



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I have the best dodge
 
We'll bang, ok?

I am an unapologetic scientific racist and only bang quarians while sober.

Besides, you collectors already all run around naked, and I am not impressed by your..... assets. Free will wasn't the only thing Reapers took from you