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[JAZZ_LEG3ND]

then after killing cassandra i bring her back with necromancy and a mage body to boot and have her kill her seekers friends and eat there bodies i will super glue her  arms on her head as ears lol.

Are you seeing someone about this?

[lordsaren101]

I hope it's not Josephine. She's far and away the most attractive female LI, or at least she's the one I find far-and-away the most attractive.

She reminds me of Eva Mendes

[TheKomandorShepard]

I don't think Bioware writes non-villain characters simply to ****** off players.  Even Anders was clearly written as a tragic figure, not as someone for players to direct their scorn at.

As far i remember anders had plot armor even pro-templars couldn't sell him or kill despite guy was an abomnation at best you could remove him if you did his pro-mage mission what still dumb move as your character admit that he is an abomnation and still let him go not to mention his whines that even companions were constantly pointing.

[TheJediSaint]

As far i remember anders had plot armor even pro-templars couldn't sell him or kill despite guy was an abomnation at best you could remove him if you did his pro-mage mission what still dumb move as your character admit that he is an abomnation and still let him go not to mention his whines that even companions were constantly pointing.

Actually, if you refused to help him in Act 3, you would go to the Grand Cleric and warn her about him.  It doesn't change anything, but you're not forced to support his actions.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Actually, if you refused to help him in Act 3, you would go to the Grand Cleric and warn her about him.  It doesn't change anything, but you're not forced to support his actions.

And that was something about 6-7 years dealing with him little late to do something with abomnation and guy that want to bring down system you support don't you think?

 

Not mention that that pretty much you can tell it cullen as well and he does nothing about it anders had colosal plot armor just to end blowing up chantry.

[veeia]

Well, that's a flaw with the game...not with Anders. I think they should have added more about his peaceful efforts (and not in the codex) to flesh him out more, but as he stands, he's a complex, interesting character to me.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Well, that's a flaw with the game...not with Anders. I think they should have added more about his peaceful efforts (and not in the codex) to flesh him out more, but as he stands, he's a complex, interesting character to me.

Both problem is with anders and with game as he is in game and in fact he annoyed somewhat about majority of players even some peoples among pro-mages had enough of him and none of this peoples could do something about him save for peoples who did his pro-mage quest and kicked him out and still it was stupid decision.  

[coldflame]

... who would tick off players/fans.

 

This is BSN/internet everybody is always ticked off at something.

[TheJediSaint]

I think Solas will ruffle feathers.

 

he can ruffle my feathers. hehehe

It's not like he has any feathers of his own.

[SamanthaJ]

It's not like he has any feathers of his own.

He's a bald eagle, of course he has feathers.

[Shadow Fox]

Hopefully there won't be one. All these sorts of characters end up doing is dividing the community into factions who then bicker with each other endlessly. BSN has a horrible reputation, and it's in no small part due to these daft character fan base trench wars. The fewer Anders and Loghain type threads we have, the better off the whole community will be.

I blame the creepy threads*hello Tali sweat and every sex thread ever* for that myself.

[Aimi]

Well, that's a flaw with the game...not with Anders. I think they should have added more about his peaceful efforts (and not in the codex) to flesh him out more, but as he stands, he's a complex, interesting character to me.

I don't think those are necessarily contradictory. Intellectually, as a "character", I thought Anders in DA2 was quite good; he still drove me up the wall because his actions were often viscerally annoying (if that particular adverb makes any sense there).

[Shadow Fox]

Seras is for females only.

You aren't pissed off?

Nah

 

*Snuggles Cass*

[Han Shot First]

I hope it's not Josephine. She's far and away the most attractive female LI, or at least she's the one I find far-and-away the most attractive.

 

I wouldn't mind Josephine turning out to be a turncoat, if it is well-written. And I say that as someone who would most likely have the Inquisitor romance that character.

 

Dat drama. 

[Steelcan]

Sera's accent may pop a blood vessel, or Leliana based on the demo we saw with her, if Iron Bull gets too Qunari'y on me, Vivienne being herself might do it

[RobRam10]

The very existance of Briala is making my blood boil.

[Arvaarad]

As far i remember anders had plot armor even pro-templars couldn't sell him or kill despite guy was an abomnation at best you could remove him if you did his pro-mage mission what still dumb move as your character admit that he is an abomnation and still let him go not to mention his whines that even companions were constantly pointing.

...actually, you can tell him to leave Kirkwall in Act II, immediately after the Ser Alrik encounter. He'll leave Kirkwall and be unavailable to your party.

Obviously Justice compels him to come back in the end of Act III. You can see him sulking around the Hanged Man shortly before, though he's still unavailable to your party and therefore none of his bomb-assembly quests appear. It adds a really, really different tone to Hawke's involvement in the ending. You even get some exclusive dialogue options.

Overall, I enjoyed taking that path. It gave a very different flavor to the second and third acts, and it was fun to play a Hawke with a spine (instead of "must keep all companions at all costs").

[veeia]

I don't think those are necessarily contradictory. Intellectually, as a "character", I thought Anders in DA2 was quite good; he still drove me up the wall because his actions were often viscerally annoying (if that particular adverb makes any sense there).

That makes sense. I don't think that's a flaw though. Anders is a polarizing character...as he should be, given what his arc is meant to accomplish. I don't think that makes him a bad character. He annoyed me a lot at times, but I thought he was internally consistent and sympathetic. Not that I condone his actions, but I can understand how he got there. To me, that's all indicative of a good character.

Where he fell apart for most people, I think, is the limited ability you have to react to him. Which seems like a mechanics/narrative issue to me. Like, I know a lot of people want to just kill him, but it's an issue even for people who like him. For me..Anders is so clearly deteriorating as the game goes on, and yet you can't make any real attempts to help him. The only way you can even really address it is if you're rivaling him, which involves you being pretty harsh to someone who is mentally unstable. I feel pretty uncomfortable with that. It's not that I wished I could "fix" him, just that I wanted to have the ability in game to recognize his struggles as a Mage AND as someone with serious mental health issues/justice merger both as serious.

Basically I think they gave us a complex character but made our ability to interact with him very simplistic.

[pengwin21]

To be fair, we don't get to kill Merrill either even though she's a blood mage. Why a pro-templar Hawke just lets her hang around doing Maker knows what with that mirror, I have no idea.

[JAZZ_LEG3ND]

To be fair, we don't get to kill Merrill either even though she's a blood mage. Why a pro-templar Hawke just lets her hang around doing Maker knows what with that mirror, I have no idea.

devcan

[TheJediSaint]

To be fair, we don't get to kill Merrill either even though she's a blood mage. Why a pro-templar Hawke just lets her hang around doing Maker knows what with that mirror, I have no idea.

Well, considering how Merril's rival arc worked, I'd day it's because Hawke wanted to save Merril from herself.

[pengwin21]

Well, considering how much I like Merril's rival arch, I'd day it's because Hawke wanted to save Merril from herself.

 

Yeah, but what if my Hawke is more concerned with "she's probably going to start summoning demons and turn into an abomination like every other blood mage"? Or something to that effect.

 

I don't support being able to kill or otherwise get rid of every companion (like I don't see how getting rid of Aveline or Varric would make any sense really), but Merrill's forced status until The Last Straw always seemed odd to me.

[KaiserShep]

...actually, you can tell him to leave Kirkwall in Act II, immediately after the Ser Alrik encounter. He'll leave Kirkwall and be unavailable to your party.

Obviously Justice compels him to come back in the end of Act III. You can see him sulking around the Hanged Man shortly before, though he's still unavailable to your party and therefore none of his bomb-assembly quests appear. It adds a really, really different tone to Hawke's involvement in the ending. You even get some exclusive dialogue options.

Overall, I enjoyed taking that path. It gave a very different flavor to the second and third acts, and it was fun to play a Hawke with a spine (instead of "must keep all companions at all costs").

 

I prefer this route as well, but it was kind of easy, since Anders was a character who I felt was not so much a friend to my Hawke but a rather uncomfortable ally that was walking on eggshells from day 1.

[Icefalcon]

Yeah, but what if my Hawke is more concerned with "she's probably going to start summoning demons and turn into an abomination like every other blood mage"? Or something to that effect.

 

I don't support being able to kill or otherwise get rid of every companion (like I don't see how getting rid of Aveline or Varric would make any sense really), but Merrill's forced status until The Last Straw always seemed odd to me.

Yep i always felt we should be able to run Merrill through during her intro when she opens the force field on Sundermount with Blood magic. Pretty much every other Blood Mage got theirs upon reveal so why not her.