Sure, I get that. But dogs are meant to be used as a combo with fighters.
Yes but we're discussing warrior vs warrior not the quality of a warrior when combined with others. Thats also the problem, as i mentioned before most of their feats or all of them have only been done with other groups involved
True. Sieges are endure matches. Teventer was nearly bankrupted by the war.
It started with one pride demon abomination. Why did they not stop it from the start?
Because it caught them off guard and demons appeared everywhere, as stated in game?
Yet The Masked Empire shows that the best of the best the Aacademy can provide in terms if chevaliers is unstoppable. They not only train for years, they also learn other warriors' skills, including Grey Wardens and Templars, just in case they have to face darkspawn or mages too.
Well, it's not like the Legion of the Dead never lost their base of operations while the Weisshaupt has naver fallen... Oooops
To be fair, the Anderfels are rather farther from Darkspawn. London never fell despite the American Revolution.
I admit, I haven't read Stolen Throne, but I'd like more accounts of tactics in the field. Dragon Age certainly isn't lacking fantastic showings of individual training, skill, swordplay etc. but I'd like to learn more about things like how Nevarra triumphed over Orlais in their recent engagement, how the Felicisima Armada managed to trounce the canon-loaded dreadnaughts of the Qunari etc.
Has anyone ever tried a pike-and-mage formation? How would this fare against a Chevalier charge? Do the Qunari use Saar-Qamek to break apart enemy formations? Has anyone tried mage cavalry?
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Please, the were left in a stand still by teventor. Pushed around by a group fighting all of southern thedus at once. Lost to Nevarra. And were kicked out of fereldin.
Please, the were left in a stand still by teventor. Pushed around by a group fighting all of southern thedus at once. Lost to Nevarra. And were kicked out of fereldin.
Failure in battle strategy is not a reflection of the individuals fighting capability
Because it caught them off guard and demons appeared everywhere, as stated in game?
All pride demon attacks are by surprise. And every pride demon summons other demons. So, If every case is like that, why can't the templer handle that in the circle tower quest?
Felicisima Armada managed to trounce the canon-loaded dreadnaughts of the Qunari etc.
Failure in battle strategy is not a reflection of the individuals fighting capability
Going by individual is pointless being that each individual have different strengths. Martial arts are made to be fought in group, hit and run attacks or self defense. Their is no way to find the best group of style by pointing at individuals.
Please, the were left in a stand still by teventor. Pushed around by a group fighting all of southern thedus at once. Lost to Nevarra. And were kicked out of fereldin.
You're talking about a war. Most people don't fight fairly or equally in war. I'm talking more if two people fought each in a duel and I can still imagine 30 Chevaliers could kill easily around a 100 common soldiers easily.
You're talking about a war. Most people don't fight fairly or equally in war. I'm talking more if two people fought each in a duel and I can still imagine 30 Chevaliers could kill easily around a 100 common soldiers easily.
Going by individual is pointless being that each individual have different strengths. Martial arts are made to be fought in group, hit and run attacks or self defense. Their is no way to find the best group of style by pointing at individuals.
Whoever conquers Minrathous will achieve the biggest victory in history of Thedas because its simply impenetrable.
Who bets that, if it happens, it will be a player character who did it?
To be fair, the Anderfels are rather farther from Darkspawn. London never fell despite the American Revolution.
Farther from Darkspawn in terms of surface and udnerground, I suppose, because every piece of lore so far points out that the Anderfels is the most blighted country in the world and that even today darkspawn are a big and constant threat for their citizens.
Who bets that, if it happens, it will be a player character who did it?
That's going to happen in the next da.
Is there anyone who wants to talk about the warriors instead of argue about them? I started this thread to get peoples opinions not get them to fight with one another.
And just so you all know I think using historical references for a fictional game is just ridiculous.
All pride demon attacks are by surprise.
Not true. Most templars hunt after such abominations well in the advance.
And every pride demon summons other demons.
That incident wasn't caused by one demon summoning more. It was caused by large groups of mages summoning demons at once.
So, If every case is like that, why can't the templer handle that in the circle tower quest?
The same reason I already stated.
Is there anyone who wants to talk about the warriors instead of argue about them? I started this thread to get peoples opinions not get them to fight with one another.
And just so you all know I think using historical references for a fictional game is just ridiculous.
The law of humanity. You got an opinion, you fight about. Been that way from the dawn of humanity.
Going by individual is pointless being that each individual have different strengths. Martial arts are made to be fought in group, hit and run attacks or self defense. Their is no way to find the best group of style by pointing at individuals.
No not at all
1.)Martial arts are meant to be used in different ways depending on the one in question.
2.)As ive said before, judging a group based on their strategic ability carries way too many variable (landscape,weather,leaders involved, etc) its much simpler to go by warrior vs warrior because you're taking what we know of their training/weaponry and pitting them against each other. This takes much less into account and usually gets the idea across.
Saying Chevaliers arent at the top because Orlais lost as a whole isnt a legitimate statement. Chevaliers cant win a war on their own. Thats like saying the spartans werent the highest quality warriors at Thermopylae only because they lost the battle in the end.
Is there anyone who wants to talk about the warriors instead of argue about them? I started this thread to get peoples opinions not get them to fight with one another.
And just so you all know I think using historical references for a fictional game is just ridiculous.
Theres no way to discuss who we think is the best without debating
with that being said, its not heated nor is there any belligerence. I dont see an issue until people begin to over do it
Not true. Most templars hunt after such abominations well in the advance.
That incident wasn't caused by one demon summoning more. It was caused by large groups of mages summoning demons at once.
The same reason I already stated.
1. Minor ones.
2. It matters not how it started. The fact is a)Pride domons come by surpires. B)They can summon demons.
That means every pride demon fight is by surprises and they have to face more then one demon to kill it.
Even if the pride demon showed up by surprise in the circle quest, but the norms of fighting pride demons that's expected and they should be able to handle it if the normally face pride demons.
Going by individual is pointless being that each individual have different strengths. Martial arts are made to be fought in group, hit and run attacks or self defense. Their is no way to find the best group of style by pointing at individuals.
Yes, but I still trust a chevaliers to have my back and protect me in a fight much more than just some average guard or soldier.
Chevaliers know how to fight mages, they know how to fight darkspawn and they know how fight armies too. Anyone can join the Legion of the dead or the Ash warriors but only the best (human) fighters can join the Chevaliars.
Masked Empire spoilers:
You ever notice how the Spartans are only mentioned a few times in history? They did eventually die out because they lost repeatedly and couldn't sustain there society.
The Chevaliers on the other hand are not a society by an elite corps of riders and warriors. And like the medieval knights or Japanese samurai they adhere to a strict code of honor that defines them as the most elite warriors.
But bare in mind, I think Chevaliers are A-ranked A-Holes who take their noble privilege and authority too far. You gotta admit there are a lot of Chevaliers who deserve a steel-toed boot to the gonads.
You ever notice how the Spartans are only mentioned a few times in history? They did eventually die out because they lost repeatedly and couldn't sustain there society.
The Chevaliers on the other hand are not a society by an elite corps of riders and warriors. And like the medieval knights or Japanese samurai they adhere to a strict code of honor that defines them as the most elite warriors.
But bare in mind, I think Chevaliers are A-ranked A-Holes who take their noble privilege and authority too far. You gotta admit there are a lot of Chevaliers who deserve a steel-toed boot to the gonads.
I like to think that Chevaliers and their reputation of arrogance is a bit exaggerated, while of course any order that is granted the right to rape women is bound to have evil people, i dont a good portion of them would stoop to that level
Chevaliers might have some of the best training in Thedas but I doubt many are as skilled as Michel. He's the player character of Chevaliers, almost. Not only does he say he's never encountered another Chevalier as well trained as him (including Gaspard), but there's actually a lot of nameless Chevaliers that die by the boatload in the book.
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