No, because he doesn't want his choices to be mandatory, where as you think every choice that disagrees with yours is the unforgivable sin.
The problem is that this fundamentally favors those who prefer the status quo, because it's easier to write when considering save imports. It's a much less equal proposition than it seems.
Why do mages and chantry have to be exclusively different? Wynne is a mage who is also a chantry devout.
The problem is that this fundamentally favors those who prefer the status quo, because it's easier to write when considering save imports. It's a much less equal proposition than it seems.
or maybe it favors the story BioWare wants to tell, and not yours.
Tell me how my post was ignorant. It's human nature to be rewarded when you behave or do something good. All you did was bash me for no reason which makes you look like a troll.
At least in Wynne's case, she didn't earn her freedom of movement by simply being loyal and well-behaved. She helped stop a Blight. That has perks.
or maybe it favors the story BioWare wants to tell, and not yours.
Something that didn't exactly fly well when Cerberus made it clear that it had been evil all along, as I recall.
So if you agree that rising up against oppression was okay for those suffering under Tevinter, what's so different about those suffering under the Chantry taking up arms?
And a noble can cause wars far worse than any single mage can. Should we lock up all nobles as well?
No, but I wouldn't lock you up just because you might walk into my home with a machine gun either.
Which still doesn't change that the Rivain's system was far more efficient at preventing mages going evil or full-blown demon than the Chantry's. The Chantry claims the Circle system's oppressive nature towards mages is necessary to prevent mages going evil, but so far Rivain has shown that to be not true.
Again, Rivain: No known evil mage or abomination problems.
Chantry: 19 to 20 annulments, rebellious fragments in almost every Circle, apostates fleeing imprisonment everywhere, mothers hiding children because they know they will never see them again.
Wheter it was okay or not it is up to you but everyone cares about their own or their own group mages are dangerous for human society and as proved in some cases for human kind.If mages want do what they want at cost of others they can try but non-mages won't care and they will crush them.
Did you saw noble that wanted or went for world destruction?Nobles are peoples in charge of society or rather high in rank they at worst can be abusive but not suicidal and if such example was in case such person would be put down by society because who will follow person that want destroy their society or human kind?
Mages have machine gune since their birth waot wrong they have weapon and potential for destruction bigger than machine gun and if i had machine gun police would arrest me because i would be danger to everyone and in that case you can't remove that weapon.
Not rly diffrence is in that they see that as natural disasters and same can be said for tevinter we pretty much barely heard about any abominations or disasters there because we weren't there and we know they practice blood magic.Same here as we know they are creating abominations.In fact 99 % of cases we heard about abomnations problems were in places we saw so sorry pal pretty much by your logic every other place is abomnation safe because we didn't heard about any cases.
again see above.
Oh you want argue that chantry sucks when it comes to controling mages well i have to disappoint you because i agree.
Something that didn't exactly fly well when Cerberus made it clear that it had been evil all along, as I recall.
And? I for one care very little what we think over what the writer thinks in their world. If they want a person to be a psychopath, all the power to them. It's their story, and it's foolish to think otherwise, when they're writing it.
At least in Wynne's case, she didn't earn her freedom of movement by simply being loyal and well-behaved. She helped stop a Blight. That has perks.
But WE know she was loyal and well-behaved and that helps her case. She was not like Uldred who wanted power and consorted with demons, she was not like Jowan who did blood magic in the dark to get more powerful. She earned her way through the ranks by hard work, learning from mistakes and doing a good job, thus she was rewarded.
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cerberus was always morally evil. But that line of example/thought belongs in the ME section. DA is vastly different to ME so lets not use them as example,muddies the waterSomething that didn't exactly fly well when Cerberus made it clear that it had been evil all along, as I recall.
Blood magic is only school of magic and normal mages can cause disasters as well as i said mages can't fix veil only inq as we know can do that only mage that did that was avernus and i said why it was special case.
Situations that require magic in 99 % are caused by mages so they clean own mess as far we never saw situation that wasn't caused by mages that would require mage.Haha i love like you do everything to put blame on everyone but mage trying put that tear in veil was caused by rebellion not avernus (mage) who destroyed veil by using his magic... And again it is said to impossible or almost to fix veil and plase finn who says that he never saw something like that would know how to fix that? Not mention that if that was such easy veil in kirkwall would be fixed by circle on ease simple most likly devs screwd up.
And yet it seems that mages did it second time now and as i said all you need is blood magic not mention that there is 10000 other ways for mage to cause disaster i mentioned 1 that would lead to world destruction and it wasn't talking about uldred only qunari mage but yes uldred was another example of mage causing disaster because of ambition.But again i see you play in excuses read my comment on before what excuses mean...
And again you play in compare kitchen knife to nuclear bomb because both are weapon that can kill ignoring scale of problem and focusing that problem is equal to every other problem.And as i said not rly safe for occasional rare problems with demons (that could be dealt with thanks to templars) there wouldn't be any magical problems.
Blood magic is usually the one who causes problem, because of the whole demon thing. Never the less it requires magic to fix the veil of some kind.
Well Avernus wouldn't have done like he did if it wasn't because of the rebellion and the fact they were trapped like rats which is a fact.
You still need some kind of magic to close a fade tear, maybe these fade tear were different then then the other ones.
Maybe or maybe it's the Elder one who did it, one thing is for sure it required a lot of magic, a lot more the most mages have access too. The Qunari mage also managed to get his hands on a rare magical artifact which was his only way to do it, his own magic couldn't do it on it's own, not to mention he knew no other thing then being a weapon he says so himself which is correct as we saw in DA2. What happened with Uldred was an indirect result of the blight among other things and it's not excuses because it doesn't excuse what they did but explains why it happens, while you claim magic is to blame, but that's not the case, it's just the tool used to commit the crime.
A knife can kill just as many as nuclear bomb it just takes longer for the knife to do it. There one problem with that theory of yours, people wouldn't know of the Veil if not for mages and they would have even harder time to discover demons because then they can be everywhere with mages you at least know 99 % of the demons will come from them and not somewhere else.
But WE know she was loyal and well-behaved and that helps her case. She was not like Uldred who wanted power and consorted with demons, she was not like Jowan who did blood magic in the dark to get more powerful. She earned her way through the ranks by hard work, learning from mistakes and doing a good job, thus she was rewarded.
Yes she did. But Wynne is still a special case because of her role in ending the 5th Blight.
Didn't bashing fade tears with a sword work fine in 'Witch Hunt'?
Didn't bashing fade tears with a sword work fine in 'Witch Hunt'?
Which contradicts what Justice said in DA:A.
The thing is mages do have power and need some regulatory affects, but from a religious organization that blames them for all the ills in the world is the problem.
Except mages actually did cause everything they're blamed for.
Didn't bashing fade tears with a sword work fine in 'Witch Hunt'?
Finn probably closes them if the Warden isn't a mage.
enchantment!!!!Didn't bashing fade tears with a sword work fine in 'Witch Hunt'?
I think the problem I have with a lot of morality arguments are people applying modern days' morality onto medieval time.
Chantry:
1. Give people faith to unite under
2. Help the needy and educate them
3. Moral guidance for many people like Sebastian
The Chantry has corruption in it, but it is no different than other branches of organizations out there. The problem I feel is it's not the Chantry itself, but the fact that it holds powers and too much power can very easily lead to corruption. If you look at many of the individuals like Brothers Burkel or Wynne, they are good at heart.
No blame every mage for all the sins in the world not just the mastigsters whom caused the darken city and I call it bull **** on the chantry version.Except mages actually did cause everything they're blamed for.
No blame every mage for all the sins in the world not just the mastigsters whom caused the darken city and I call it bull **** on the chantry version.
The Chantry doesn't blame every mage for the darkspawn. They blame the hubris of those with power who use it for selfish purposes. It wouldn't hurt you to actually read the Chant. And considering we've met a magister who confirmed they caused it, yeah. Nothing really supporting you.
cory somewhat proves the chantry version. Im promage and i believe thatNo blame every mage for all the sins in the world not just the mastigsters whom caused the darken city and I call it bull **** on the chantry version.
No blame every mage for all the sins in the world not just the mastigsters whom caused the darken city and I call it bull **** on the chantry version.
I think the primary purpose of the Circle system is to minimize the damage caused by abominations and malifcarum, not to punish mages for the First Violation.
No blame every mage for all the sins in the world not just the mastigsters whom caused the darken city and I call it bull **** on the chantry version.
Well Cryp's did say they were promised the power of gods if they went to the fade so someone did lure them there and they got what they were promised they are immortal and extremely powerful.
No blame every mage for all the sins in the world not just the mastigsters whom caused the darken city and I call it bull **** on the chantry version.
Corypheus says hi.
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