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Why the Chantry is Evil.


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#401
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It is exactly that I take issue with. I support usurping deities and resent that it's always depicted as morally wrong. Not that I really expected things to be different in DA, but that doesn't change the fact that I despise this kind of thinking.

 

I'm not saying it is morally wrong.

 

I'm saying it is suicidally stupid.


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Wanting to inflict Ramsy Snow on people is a bit much, don't you think?

exceptions are a fact of life. Besides, we might get good items out of it.

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Usually yes. There is always the potential for exceptions though.

Ramsay Snow is not someone I'd inflict on my enemies, no exception.



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Ramsey Snow is not someone I'd inflict on my enemies, no exception.

 

I have a short list. Besides everyone involved is fictional, not like anyone who matters would be hurt by it.



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Who is ramsey snow he's used as a pro-mage prejoritive so id context if possible

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Yep they were mages and we had plenty examples of what i have said.Peoples love saying someone hate someone if points negatives i don't hate mages because it would make it personal and they are only obstacles for me.

They were mages and did bad things therefore mages do bad things. Your logic would make every English teacher I've had since the 8th grade vomit. 

 

 

Not rly and you hear that from guy who was told in this form that i hate hawke (as i said peoples love use that card) hawke had many flaws but saying that hawke caused everything is out of place all i need is 1 example tarohne.   

I said every major problem. One blood mage in a city of them is not a major problem. Hawke found the statue. Hawke helped Patrice. Hawke agitated the qunari. Hawke allowed unrest between the mages and the Templars. Hawke allowed Anders to live. Hawke didn't warn the Grand Cleric. Hawke almost started a war with Orlais. Hawke let one of the original and most powerful darkspawn loose. Hawke let the guy who killed their mother walk away when they could have stopped him when they first saw him 3 years earlier. The list goes on and on. 


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Who is ramsey snow he's used as a pro-mage prejoritive so id context if possible

. Damn it I can't link well on my phone...

Think Ted Bundy, but more creative

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I have a short list. Besides everyone involved is fictional, not like anyone who matters would be hurt by it.

True.  Still wouldn't drop anyone into the clutches of that psycho, fictional or not.



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Who is ramsey snow he's used as a pro-mage prejoritive so id context if possible

I too wonder who Ramsey Snow is. No such man exists. 



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I too wonder who Ramsey Snow is. No such man exists. 

 

They speak vile treason against Lord Bolton's son.


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I'm saying it is suicidally stupid.

And no matter how "virtuous" the attempt to usurp a deity is, it seems to always backfire tragically.


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Ramsey Snow is not someone I'd inflict on my enemies, no exception.

 

Anders is one who deserved some Ramsay justice.



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I too wonder who Ramsey Snow is. No such man exists. 



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...a virtuous undertaking that claimed the lives of many slaves and backfired, unleashing a wave of supernatural plague upon Thedas with the Taint.

The Chant doesn't even *mention* the blood sacrifice. It ignores what was really evil in this thing, and turns into evil what would be good if not for the methods. As for the backfiring, if the message was "Be careful" I would support it. But the message is "There are things fundamentally not your domain, and you should not go there". I most emphatically do not believe that.  



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And no matter how "virtuous" the attempt to usurp a deity is, it seems to always backfire tragically.

 

Here's something I don't get though. What makes usurping the maker virtuous anyway?



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He was commenting on misspelling Ramsay, not saying he's not a character

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. Damn it I can't link well on my phone...Think Ted Bundy, but more creative

so fans equate pro mages with a horrible american serial killer? Hope im wrong but it seem rude/childish? Odd
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The Chant doesn't even *mention* the blood sacrifice. It ignores what was really evil in this thing, and turns into evil what would be good if not for the methods.

 

Why exactly would it have been good? You keep saying it is, without giving a reason why.



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That man's name is Ramsay Bolton. Not Ramsey Snow. The point. 



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He was commenting on misspelling Ramsay, not saying he's not a character

 

Sorry. :P



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Anders is one who deserved some Ramsey justice.

I find plain old death to works just fine when dealing with characters I don't like.



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The thing about the children is especially despicable. To think that the Chantry takes my child away to indoctrinate it into an ideology I despise.... I really have no words to describe the level of rage that induces.

 

'Impotent rage'?



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They only reason is because they are prideful and can learn to co-exist with anyone with a different open form theirs.

 

you realize that that sentence puts nowadays common atheist as a potential evil, right?



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Why exactly would it have been good? You keep saying it is, without giving a reason why.

 

Because usurping a diety is the right thing to do because...Progress?



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I'm not saying it is morally wrong.

 

I'm saying it is suicidally stupid.

The consequences show that this attempt was ill-advised, yes. But the message I would send is "Be careful and don't overestimate your capabilities", not "Never do this". Also, never trust your gods. They act like any superpower and never have your best interests in mind, only theirs.