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[TheJiveDJ]

Apart from the racial bonuses posted on the DAI website, has BioWare stated whether or not each race will have unique base stats ala DAO?

[SerCambria358]

Hopefully, I don't want the choice between races to be mainly aesthetically focused

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

This is how I would do it...
 
+10 bonus attributes to all races with a base of 10 for every race.
 
Qunari: +6 Strength +4 Willpower
Elves:  +4 Dexterity +4 Magic +2 Willpower
Dwarves: +4 Strength +6 Constitution
Humans:  +2 Strength +2 Magic +4 Cunning +2 Constitution

Sounds about right, though I think Qunari would have constitution rather than willpower, given they used to have a health bonus.

[TheJiveDJ]

Sounds about right, though I think Qunari would have constitution rather than willpower, given they used to have a health bonus.

 

If Im not mistaken, the health bonus was replaced with a +10 melee defense, which I'm not too fond of. In DAO and DAII, defense represented your PC's ability to avoid or dodge an attack. I'm curious as to whether that is still the case in DAI because attack avoidance isn't really all that important for a warrior tank, for example, who should be taking hits instead of trying to avoiding them.

[TheJiveDJ]

Hopefully we can get an answer from BW on this.

[Wulfram]

I don't think there'll be any.  It tends to skew the races toward particular classes.

[Icy Magebane]

I don't think there'll be any.  It tends to skew the races toward particular classes.

So long as each attribute has at least some benefit that is universal for all classes, it shouldn't be a huge problem... Elves in DA:O had magic and willpower bonuses, but they did just fine as warriors and rogues.  It's more useful for adding flavor to the races than anything else, since small bonuses like this will become largely irrelevant once we've gained a few levels.  Well... if we're talking about 10 points it might mean a bit more.  In DA:O, they only gave out 4 per race.

[animedreamer]

 

This is how I would do it...

 

+10 bonus attributes to all races with a base of 10 for every race.

Spoiler

Qunari:

• Strength 16 (+6)
• Dexterity 10
• Magic 10
• Willpower 12 (+2)
• Cunning 10
• Constitution 12 (+2)

 

Elves:  

• Strength 10
• Dexterity 14 (+4)
• Magic 14 (+4)
• Willpower 12 (+2)
• Cunning 10
• Constitution 10

 

Dwarves:

• Strength 14 (+4)
• Dexterity 10
• Magic 10
• Willpower 10
• Cunning 10
• Constitution 16 (+6)

 

Humans:  

• Strength 12 (+2)
• Dexterity 10
• Magic  12 (+2)
• Willpower 10
• Cunning 14 (+4)
• Constitution 12 (+2)

 

 

I think Dwarves could do with a little less in constitution and gain a bonus in cunning, this is the likeliest shady default race by way of their culture, and even those we've seen on the surface tend to hold true to a kind of natural guile? We've see the majority of dwarves as crafty if not wholesale conniving. They are probably the most opportunistic race out of the 4 as a whole.

 

I'd probably put humans as +2, +2, +0, +2, +2, +2.

and Dwarves as +2, +0, +0, +0, +4, +4

[Ryzaki]

Especially since the dwarf pc is a member of the carta. A cunning bonus wouldn't be out of place.

[animedreamer]

So long as each attribute has at least some benefit that is universal for all classes, it shouldn't be a huge problem... Elves in DA:O had magic and willpower bonuses, but they did just fine as warriors and rogues.  It's more useful for adding flavor to the races than anything else, since small bonuses like this will become largely irrelevant once we've gained a few levels.  Well... if we're talking about 10 points it might mean a bit more.  In DA:O, they only gave out 4 per race.

 

i forgot how big the stat bonuses were. but i agree, after a while the bonus stats from certain events and equipment more than out stripped the relevence of racial modifiers.

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

I hope the dwarves get a bonus to constitution and the qunari get a bonus to strength, instead of the other way around.

[animedreamer]

I hope we have stats at all. I thought i heard some where that there wouldn't be ability scores this time around, but i can't yet see how the human bonus would work if there weren't.

[Ryzaki]

I hope we have stats at all. I thought i heard some where that there wouldn't be ability scores this time around, but i can't yet see how the human bonus would work if there weren't.

 

? Isn't the human bonus just an extra skill?

[animedreamer]

? Isn't the human bonus just an extra skill?

 

The website says they get a bonus ability point at the start of the game.

[Ryzaki]

The website says they get a bonus ability point at the start of the game.

 

Yeah an extra skill and considering we have a 8 skill limit that might be more of a hindrance than a boon in the end.

[Ryzaki]

Extra point for Passive, Sustained, or Upgrade. You don't have to buy a ninth Activated ability.

 

Might not necessarily be able to get the passive sustained or upgrade without having to get another activated (i'm basing this off how DAO and DA2 pretty much forced you to get filler abilities to get the crap you actually wanted though).

[TheJiveDJ]

i forgot how big the stat bonuses were. but i agree, after a while the bonus stats from certain events and equipment more than out stripped the relevence of racial modifiers.

The min/maxer in me will not settle for losing even two or three skill points to an ill suited race/class combo. Should I seek some professional help? 

[animedreamer]

The min/maxer in me will not settle for losing even two or three skill points to an ill suited race/class combo. Should I seek some professional help? 

I prescribe 1 session of D&D or Pathfinder a week.

[Hadeedak]

The min/maxer in me will not settle for losing even two or three skill points to an ill suited race/class combo. Should I seek some professional help? 

 

My first reaction to Dark Knight's post was "I'd never roll an elf rogue, then!" ...and then I took a deep breath and remembered A) I'm just playing for fun and racials don't need to be obsessed over and B ) I'm not planning on playing an elf anyway.

 

In a purely selfish sense, I hope the final racials for dwarves and qunari are awesome.

[Br3admax]

Might not necessarily be able to get the passive sustained or upgrade without having to get another activated (i'm basing this off how DAO and DA2 pretty much forced you to get filler abilities to get the crap you actually wanted though).

So? You still get more flexibility and more skills.