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[TheEternalStudent]

It's not known Anora was infertile, it could have been miserable luck, or Cailan might have been infertile.
And Ferelden is still enamored of the Therin bloodline, and only Alistair can provide an heir meeting that criteria.

[Ryzaki]

I would love to see Fergus Cousland as king, should Alistair and/or Anora don't have their own heir. He's definitely kind, brave, and from what you learn, a good leader. Least, he would have to be if his own father--who isn't an idiot--would have him lead their soldiers to Ostagar.

 

Though are we sure he would remarry after losing his own wife and son? 

 

Same.

 

Yeah. If only to stick it to Howe from beyond the grave. I don't see Fergus just letting the Cousland line die out.

 

 

Oh, I was just curious... maybe World of Thedas mentioned it or something. You never know.  That would certainly be interesting if mages had such abilities, although knowing Dragon Age, the child would probably be born an abomination.  Nothing is ever simple in Thedas...

 

[Aimi]

TL;DR I think a civil war is inevitable, even if it takes a few decades, unless everyone in the aristocracy can unanimously and peacefully agree on a new monarch once Alistair or Anora or the Warden die.

"A civil war is inevitable, unless it isn't."

[KC_Prototype]

I hope our choices make a difference and aren't sweep under, I want to see these decisions play out. I think when it comes to an heir, when all else fails: Blood Magic. Ain't nobody gotta know

[Magister Caedus]

As for this topic... I honestly have no clue what's going to happen.  This business of no heir regardless of what happened in DA:O is kind of strange, but it seems rather convenient, as this will allow Bioware to come up with a single canon ruler at some point in the future.  No idea who that will be, though...

I think you may be on to something with this. Having a canon ruler would make later games including Fereldan much simpler. If this is the case, I hope they go with Fergus. He seems like a reasonable fellow, and kind-spirited.

 

On that note, I wonder if an heir will become more relevant in DA:I. The death of the previous monarch (Alistair/Warden/Anora) could be the cause of many tears from the fandom.

[Jazzpha]

"A civil war is inevitable, unless it isn't."

 

Touche'. I guess it's the old "better or worse angels of our nature" question, so call it a bit of an ideological coin-flip. Although it would be interesting to see if the Inquisition has something to say about the state of Ferelden, since it would appear we get to intervene in Orlesian politics.

[WarriorOfLight999]

I'm almost certain we get to decide the ruler of Orlais. There are two contenders for the throne. Empress Celene doesn't want a war with Ferelden, and she tries to raise the status of the elves, but she's weak. Grand Duke Gaspard De Chalons is a chevalier, and not a pleasant fellow in my estimation. Either way, I see Ferelden might be at war with Orlais again. How that will unfold, time will tell.

 

This is something to consider when we think of Ferelden stability.

[Darkly Tranquil]

"A civil war is inevitable, unless it isn't."

This is the Bannorn we are talking about; they've been known to go to war over a bridge, a tree, and the name of a mabari. If there isn't a clear line of succession, you can bet it will be on for young and old.

I'm almost certain we get to decide the ruler of Orlais. There are two contenders for the throne. Empress Celene doesn't want a war with Ferelden, and she tries to raise the status of the elves, but she's weak. Grand Duke Gaspard De Chalons is a chevalier, and not a pleasant fellow in my estimation. Either way, I see Ferelden might be at war with Orlais again. How that will unfold, time will tell.

By the end of the fade tears, the Civil War, and the elven uprising, Orlais is likely to be little better off than Ferelden was after the Blight - it's armies decimated, many of its leaders dead, and it's infrastructure in ruins. Whoever emerges on top will most likely rule a pile of rubble and corpses, so I doubt they will be in a position to exercise any imperial ambitions any time soon. If anything, they will need to concern themselves with not being attacked while they are weak by vengeful neighbours on either side who hate them (Ferelden and Nevarra).

[Aimi]

Touche'. I guess it's the old "better or worse angels of our nature" question, so call it a bit of an ideological coin-flip. Although it would be interesting to see if the Inquisition has something to say about the state of Ferelden, since it would appear we get to intervene in Orlesian politics.

 
My point is more that history has virtually no predictive power even in the real world; when people are put in charge of history who are actively attempting to create a good story without particular reference to accepted historical trends, even that tiny amount of potential predictive power evaporates. We have no ability to predict the circumstances of the outcome of Alistair's/Anora's reign. With that in mind, being circumspect is not so much silly as it is a rational, sober response to a paucity of information.

The way you framed your comment - making a prediction (foolish) while simultaneously hedging your bet (not foolish, but very contradictory) - amused me.
 

This is the Bannorn we are talking about; they've been known to go to war over a bridge, a tree, and the name of a mabari. If there isn't a clear line of succession, you can bet it will be on for young and old.

One might as well expect some of the banns to fight even if a successor with a strong claim takes the throne.

[Darkly Tranquil]

One might as well expect some of the banns to fight even if a successor with a strong claim takes the throne.

Oh, undoubtedly, the Bannorn are nothing if not fractious. But if a strong candidate emerged, it would likely dissuade all but the most ambitious/foolhardy from trying their luck, which would minimise the ensuing disorder.

[The King In The North]

Has anyone asked bioware about the ferelden heir or have they made a comment about it because sick of it goodness its been 10+ years come on now anyone one In their rate state of mind would want one after the blight and civil war see what happend when Calin died I don't mean to rant but I'm sick of seeing this

[Br3admax]

That's accurate, Breadmax, but I don't think that was his question. Yes, Morrigan will leave with the child and go where she pleases, and I seriously doubt she has designs on the throne of Ferelden.

I only assumed they were asking about an heir since she obviously left where she pleased and said as much.

[Icy Magebane]

Has anyone asked bioware about the ferelden heir or have they made a comment about it because sick of it goodness its been 10+ years come on now anyone one In their rate state of mind would want one after the blight and civil war see what happend when Calin died I don't mean to rant but I'm sick of seeing this

That might be considered a spoiler, so they probably wouldn't answer even if asked.  It might be mentioned in DA:I, otherwise it'll probably be settled in a novel between that game's release and DA4.

[Andreas Amell]

If the fate of the Orlesian throne affects Fereldan's independence, I'll support the one who doesn't want to conquer it. But I wonder if the story leads to a complete redrawing of the map when it's over.

[The Baconer]

A rather interesting occurrence among some of the more prominent nations at the moment.

 

Fereldan, no heirs. Nevarra, no direct heirs, and the closest in line is not interested in taking the throne. Orlais is in the middle of a civil war, with neither party having a direct heir.

[Icefalcon]

I've seen a lot of mentions about Fergus, and it made me curious. Do we know he survived Ostagar? I seem to recall something being said about his whereabouts before the battle by Cailan but no mention afterwards. Does anyone know more?

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

I've seen a lot of mentions about Fergus, and it made me curious. Do we know he survived Ostagar? I seem to recall something being said about his whereabouts before the battle by Cailan but no mention afterwards. Does anyone know more?

 

For a human noble he's at the final coronation, and for everyone else we find out he's alive in one of Nathaniel's epilogue slides, where Nate saves his life.

 

...which, could link Fergus still being around to Nate's status, I guess, unless retconned...

[Br3admax]

Fergus is seen in the epilogue no matter what. It has nothing to do with Nathaniel. Fergus is the one who give the arling to the Warden's in the first place. Not the monarchy. 

[Icy Magebane]

For a human noble he's at the final coronation, and for everyone else we find out he's alive in one of Nathaniel's epilogue slides, where Nate saves his life.

 

...which, could link Fergus still being around to Nate's status, I guess, unless retconned...

Oh my, that would be interesting... if the Cousland Warden takes revenge on the Howe family by killing Nathaniel, then his brother ultimately pays the price!    I love "What If" scenarios like that...

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Fergus is seen in the epilogue no matter what. It has nothing to do with Nathaniel. Fergus is the one who give the arling to the Warden's in the first place. Not the monarchy. 

 

I never once saw him at the coronation. He was never even mentioned before Nathaniel's epilogue. There was never anything of him giving Amaranthine to the Wardens, just Alistair/Anora.

 

The only time he's there is with a Human Noble.

[Darkly Tranquil]

A rather interesting occurrence among some of the more prominent nations at the moment.
 
Fereldan, no heirs. Nevarra, no direct heirs, and the closest in line is not interested in taking the throne. Orlais is in the middle of a civil war, with neither party having a direct heir.

Indeed, Tevinter might decide southern Thedas is ripe for reconquest, a perfect set up for Dragon Age (4): The Imperium Strikes Back.

[Br3admax]

That attack might not ever happen. Epilogue slides are rumors. 

 

I never once saw him at the coronation. He was never even mentioned before Nathaniel's epilogue. 

 

The only time he's there is with a Human Noble.

I've played HN so much they muddy together, my bad. Still, I believe it is Fergus who gives you Dog in Witch Hunt if you didn't have him before. 

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

That attack might not ever happen. Epilogue slides are rumors. 

 

Seems like it'd kinda be a big thing to be a rumour, though. Nate gets part of Amaranthine back for it.

 

I've played HN so much they muddy together, my bad. Still, I believe it is Fergus who gives you Dog in Witch Hunt if you didn't have him before. 

 

Maybe. I've never played Witch Hunt with a save where I didn't get the dog before.

[Br3admax]

Seems like it'd kinda be a big thing to be a rumour, though. Nate gets part of Amaranthine back for it.

That's not even legal. Definitely a rumor then. 

 

 

Maybe. I've never played Witch Hunt with a save where I didn't get the dog before.

I looked it up. 

 

TW: After your defeat of the archdemon, Teyrn Fergus Cousland of Highever presented you with a prized, purebred mabari hound. He has joined you on your hunt for Morrigan.

 

OWC:  After you were appointed as Warden-Commander of Ferelden, Teyrn Fergus Cousland of Highever presented you with a prized, purebred mabari hound. He has joined you on your hunt for Morrigan.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Hm. Alright then.

 

That's not even legal. Definitely a rumor then. 

 

Well, it says the Howes, more specifically. Which...basically just means Nathaniel at this point. 

 

Seems odd it'd be a rumour. Who rules a bit of land seems like it'd be an easy thing to know for certain.