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[TheKomandorShepard]

Filthy, dog lord. You should be grateful that Orlais is so forgiving. 

Since when orlais is forgiving?

[animedreamer]

Since when orlais is forgiving?

heh since Celene started pulling up her skirt for Cailen. or should have it seems.

[TheKomandorShepard]

heh since Celene started pulling up her skirt for Cailen. or should have it seems.

It wasn't forgiveness sooner desperation and i would say only on celene part other nobles wanted ferelden back.

[Augustei]

Filthy, dog lord. You should be grateful that Orlais is so forgiving. 

W..Wait what? Your telling me I got armed and armored for nothing? I was ready to put that place to the torch once our holy Emperor Gaspard took his rightful throne and deposed the witch Celene


You should be ready and greatful for when the Lions arrive dogs, Your Nobles war among each other constantly and your crown is to weak to keep them in line. You have no concept of trade and commerce despite your close proximity to its masters. When we last came we built Amaranthine which now rivals the Marcher cities in trade and that was only a taste of Orlesian greatness!

[Patchwork]

Anora is nobility however Arl Eamon didn't consider Loghain to be of noble blood and thus wanted to get rid of Anora. Basically he's just a jerk because he can't see past Loghains origin. Being a noble is just a title in the end.

 

All the noble families in Ferelden originate from war chiefs Anora is as noble as the rest of them. 

 

It's been 10 years since the Blight maybe it's time for BW to reset the board and establish a canon that doesn't contradict DAO but moves on from it.    

 

I vote for King Fergus! 

[Arijharn]

 

Here's my view of the situation: Neither Cailan nor Anora were infertile. Eamon was trying to get Cailan to divorce Celene, which nearly worked, and also convinced Cailan not to sire an heir. That's why there was no child. Anora as infertile? Only rumors imo. Rumors spread by vicious, petty nobles who balk at the thought of a common born Queen.

 

That's patently absurd. For a number of reasons, one is that Cailan apparently adored Anora for quite some time, and if you think that married (or even unmarried couples) don't do the nasty on occasion then well. yeah. Secondly, what, is Eamon going to be standing in the corner of their bedroom and give Cailan a stern glare whenever Cailan gets a little randy for some action?

 

I'm assuming that condoms don't exist in Ferelden of course, but I think even Anora would notice if Cailan made a habit of withdrawing early as well.

 

On a more serious note, who says that Fergus/Bryce is more generally well regarded than others? I haven't read any of the novels does it occur there?

[Patchwork]

I don't know about Fergus but Bryce could have been king over Cailan if he had wanted to be. 

 

Fergus is a respected commander in the army at the time of DAO:A though. 

[The Ascendant]

That's why the bandit son of a commoner turned commander deposed your foppish usurper of a king and his army of chevalier. Never underestimate a cornered dog. FOR FERELDEN!!

I know why you support Ferelden. Because you're Batman!

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

I know why you support Ferelden. Because you're Batman!

Fereldan got Batman on their side, those haughty fancy chevalier is screwed and Orlais is doomed.

[The Ascendant]

Fereldan got Batman on their side, those haughty fancy chevalier is screwed and Orlais is doomed.

Indeed.
B. T. W. Dwarf Noble is the best! Paragon, Noble, Commander. Not a bad retirement plan.

[Br3admax]

It appears that the whole "can't legally own land" thing matters to precisely nobody (and that's assuming that he didn't give it to his sister anyway), and if the Howes were Fergus's vassals (as I believe they were) then technically Amaranthine is still his, with the Wardens technically his vassals.

The land still doesn't belong to Fergus. Being someone's vassal doesn't mean you own the land given to them. Second, as Wardens, that wouldn't work either. Their very nature makes that relationship impossible.

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

Indeed.
B. T. W. Dwarf Noble is the best! Paragon, Noble, Commander. Not a bad retirement plan.

My most favorite Origin, although it's difficult to decide which is better when compare to Human Noble. I really love being a Dwarven noble warden since you're also a commander in Orzammar before Bhelen betray you, and you get a chance to involved in not just Fereldan's politics, but Orzammar's politics and its feel more dramatic, and easier to get into the story with personal story elements. I also like how in Dwarf Noble story even though you fall from grace. You get a chance to rise up and won those lost glory back.

I know it just a headcanon, but I like how some player wants their Dwarven noble warden to be deceitful puppeteer when they choose to become a chancellor and put unhardened Alistair on the throne.

Spoiler

[Panda]

Well Cailan seemed to sleep around. Maybe there will be another bastard prince or princess at the time of DAI.

[PrinceLionheart]

Well Cailan seemed to sleep around. Maybe there will be another bastard prince or princess at the time of DAI.

 

My thing has always been, as much as Anora gets accused of being infertile, how do we know it wasn't Cailan who was shooting blanks? 

[CapivaRasgor]

Guys, I’d like to point you to this: Just because we are yet to see a child of the Warden&Anora/FemWarden&Alistair/Anora&Someone/Alistair&Someone doesn’t mean that there isn’t one already. For all we know there could be already a little kid running around playing princess or prince, I think the writers are being intentionally vague regarding Ferelden’s succession as it may be a plot point… again. Also, Grey Wardens aren’t sterile, it may be a lot more difficult to bear children but it’s still possible the same goes for a woman in her forties(I have a little brother who was born when my dad remarried with a 43 year old woman) – though I suspect that Anora may be in fact in her mid thirties, she and Caillan did seem quite young at Origins. Failing at that, male Fereldan monarchs still have one option: concubines

[Ajna]

I'm for Fergus too, even though my Warden is the Queen, I'm happy for her big brother to take the reins after she naffs off to do whatever it is she does and answer her calling or whatever...

[Br3admax]

The Wardens could still return the lands. 

This is what I'm thinking happened. If it happened. 

[Panda]

My thing has always been, as much as Anora gets accused of being infertile, how do we know it wasn't Cailan who was shooting blanks? 

 

True. Well, maybe we can still rely on Maric. Goldanna's half brother might have been not just a lie to cover up Alistair's true mother.

[Mistic]

I always thought that Cailan was sterile. It's suspected Queen Rowan died prematurely because of the taint contracted during their time in the Deep Roads. If Dwarves are suffering sterility because of their proximity to the taint what's to say the same can't happen to humans. If we apply the same scenario to Anora she's less likely to be infertile because we know Loghain survives the Joining.

 

What does Loghain surviving the Joining have to do with Anora not being infertile?

[Mistic]

Not being infertile in general, but infertility specifically tied to the Blight. Should've been clearer.

 

Still, what does Loghain surviving the Joining have to do with Anora not being infertile because of the Taint? Loghain had Anora long before joining the Wardens (if at all), so I don't see the link. I'm missing something, am not I?

[Ruairi46]

Still, what does Loghain surviving the Joining have to do with Anora not being infertile because of the Taint? Loghain had Anora long before joining the Wardens (if at all), so I don't see the link. I'm missing something, am not I?

I believe i'm missing the point as well, however I believe it worth mentioning that warden pc, Warden Loghain and Warden Alistair can get Morigan pregnant. So as long as Anora isn't infertile . Their is a good chance either the warden or that fool Alistair will have got Anora pregnant with an adequate heir before the start of Dragon Age inquisition. It could even be a plot point in inquisition.