Listen, if you are willing to admit that you know the word means "born outside the Qun," and admit that the original meaning that you were familiar with may have changed or been retconned, then why are you even arguing?
I don't understand your responses, you don't seem to be basing them on anything I have said. No I am not "willing to admit" anything, I merely directed you to what we do know about the word and what we have been told.
Right now, Vashoth is used to describe qunari who were born outside the Qun, which was my original statement
That doesn't mean that this is the definition of that word though. This makes your origional statement false, or at least possibly false. Telling someone that something that may not be true, is true is dishonest and that is why I responded. Of course, at the time I assumed you were uninformed and that my response wouldn't result in a silly argument like this one.
and I am arguing because you argued with me.
Whatever else it may mean to you based on old information makes no difference to me and has no bearing on the validity of that original statement.
Yes it does make a difference because that "old information" has never been confirmed to be false. Are you saying all the lore from the previous games is "old information"?
Perhaps you were confused by my description of Tal-Vashoth? I referred to them as rebels specifically to address their violent tendencies, but perhaps that wasn't obvious enough for you? You seem to be the only one who didn't understand it, so I don't really know what more I can say about that... Maybe you should have this conversation with a dev if that's the only source that will satisfy you?
This is completely irrelevant to the discussion. No I was not confused by what you said, what you said was incorrect. You claimed something was true despite the fact that it was never confirmed to be true.
Also, I've been quoting your posts exactly as written, so I have no idea what you mean by "misrepresentation." Maybe if I quote you a second time and explain very slowly, you will understand:
You misrepresented what I said and set up what would be called a straw man. What you quoted is irrelevant, it's your response that was a misrepresentation.
Specifically "Vashoth" can't refer only to former Qunari who left the Qun if the Inquisitor is labeled as such. How do you leave a group that you were never associated with in the first place?"
As I already pointed out to you, I never argued that the word referred only to qunari who had left the Qun. I in fact argued that it probably doesn't only refer to that. So yes that was a misrepresentation and a straw man argument.
"No," as in, "it's not that, it's this." Again, interpret it as a retcon, mistake, or whatever you want, but the fact is that "Vashoth" is used to refer to qunari born outside the Qun. That's as short and simplistic as I can make it... whatever theories you may have on the subject do not change what we've been told.
The bolded part of my comment you quited is taken out of context. I was obviously referring to what the codex said the word means, that is yet another dishonest argument and I really hate dishonest arguments. It's annoying and it makes discussion pointless, please just stop it.
No, Vashoth was used to describe one qunari who was never part of the Qun. This does not necessarily mean that this is what the word means.
Stop talking down to me and assuming I do not understand what you are saying, I do understand it, I get your argument but your original comment was still false.
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