In my first play through I left her at Vigils Keep and she ends up being reckless and is slayed by Darkspawn.
In my second play through I bring her with me to kill the mother so she won't die. Still didn't work. Shortly afterwards she decides to leave for her Calling a few decades early. Wtf?! Get back here Sigrun!
Could someone please tell this dwarf to get over her Legion of the Dead brainwashing and stop trying to kill herself?
It would be interesting to know why she was with the Legion in the first place. I don't talk to her all that much and don't know if she actually coughs up that information. Suicide missions should only be available when there is no other choice and then there is always another choice. A dead legionaire 'aint gonna kill too many darkspawn.
It's touched on here and there, but not a whole lot, except for in one a random conversation she has with one of the other party members, Velanna, I think, where she spells it out pretty clearly: she wants to prove, to herself as much as to anyone else, that she's not the sort of "scum" Dwarven society sees her as, being casteless. The way she sees it (at least assuming you don't persuade her otherwise), if she breaks her vow to the Legion of the Dead, then she'll be was worthless as everyone says she is.
Edit: Ah, here's the convo I was talking about:
The last playthrough i did of awakening i got sigrun to live. I did her quest and got her approval to the last bar. The warden commander frequently finds tasks for her to do, so much so that even though she frequently mentions that she should go on her calling, its decades before she actually does so.
Actually, in that last playthrough the only one to die was justice
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It frustrates me that Sigrun never gives the Grey Wardens a chance unless you do her personal quest. Instead of killing yourself in battle to prove you're not a worthless duster, why not spend the rest of your life doing good with the Grey Wardens Sigrun? Wouldn't that prove your honor more than being decapitated by some random hurlock?!
The moron is probably going to kill ten darkspawn in the deep roads and then get caught and turned into a brood mother in my playthrough...
It frustrates me that Sigrun never gives the Grey Wardens a chance unless you do her personal quest. Instead of killing yourself in battle to prove you're not a worthless duster, why not spend the rest of your life doing good with the Grey Wardens Sigrun? Wouldn't that prove your honor more than being decapitated by some random hurlock?!
The moron is probably going to kill ten darkspawn in the deep roads and then get caught and turned into a brood mother in my playthrough...
You typically get better results by doing personal quests. That's nothing new. This is an example of the character being pretty stupid if you don't do it, but not really all that different as far as the results are concerned. (At least it's not all that different in theory, since in practice you can get locked out of it by doing quests in the wrong order.)
She stayed with the wardens in all of my play throughs,
- If the Warden completed her Companion Quest and then says that he/she *doesn't want to lose a friend* after the battle at Vigil's Keep, then Sigrun will stay with the Warden, sometimes leaving him/her, joking about her death, but always coming back.
I think you also have to keep in mind that that every day is a Blight for the dwarves. They live in a state of never-ending war and have seen countless cities fall to the darkspawn over the centuries. The dwarves have been greatly reduced in number and always live under the threat of their civilization being destroyed once and for all. The dwarves really only have two options: fight for their homeland or run to the surface. Sigrun chose to fight.
Unfortunately there are several bugs in Awakening that screw up companion quests, resulting in them leaving the Wardens no matter what you do. I think I had it happen for Sigrun, Nathaniel and Justice in my first game.
Sigrun's biggest problem, I think, is her notion of self-worth as a duster. Her society treats the casteless as without honour, value or worth, and Sigrun has made just enough mistakes in her life to believe that they're right. So the Legion is her way to try and prove to her people, and to herself, that she's better than that--worth more than that.
Unfortunately for her, she can't quite make even herself believe this without a proper chance to atone for one of her past misdeeds. If it never happens, she feels she must keep her vows to the Legion...or she's as honourless as everyone has always said.
It made me angry that none of the companions in Awakening seemed to take being a Grey Warden seriously.
Depends what you mean by "seriously". Did any of them go "let me sacrifice myself for the greater good"? Well, not really (except Sigrun, who was doing that anyway). But in general, and based on the organization's portrayal before DA2, I think most of them had the right frame of mind:
Oghren: Just wants to kill Darkspawn, because killin' is what he's good at. It's not exactly a higher calling, but he's probably putting his skill in one of the best places he can.
Anders: Wasn't really in it for the party line, but was completely willing to scratch the Order's back in exchange for the added freedom.
Nathaniel: Kind of like Anders, but moreso. It was initially just an out for him, but he ends up extremely dedicated to the Order's ideals.
Sigrun: As noted above, mostly joined because Warden-ing and Dead-ening are pretty similar anyway in terms of end goal. If anything, she became more dedicated to that end goal with joining the Wardens.
Velanna: The closest thing to an exception, since she flat out says before she joins that she doesn't give a crap and just wants the taint-sensing powers, and true to her word, bugs out in 2/3 of her recruited endings. Though still, that third ending does confirm that she can be brought around.
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It made me angry that none of the companions in Awakening seemed to take being a Grey Warden seriously.
I also find it very inconsistent that the first game (DAO) makes the Wardens seem very strict, rigid, formal, hard-up on duty and honor, and require a lifelong commitment even when you just want to join. They guard their secrets very jealously, do not allow potential recruits like Jory to back out after they know too much, select said potential recruits very carefully, and make it clear that being a Warden is a life-long commitment. You either die in the Joining, die by darkspawn, or die by your superior officer; you get no other choice.
Then in DAA and DA2 the Wardens play so loosey-goosey with their recruits. You bring in literally a ragtag bunch of misfits with little repute or proof of their capabilities (and the Wardens are like, "Sure! Let him/her join!"), said misfits rarely seem to take being a Grey Warden seriously, and by DA2 (like you said) most of them don't even stay with the Wardens. Many of them just up and leave and there are no real consequences. Heck, in DA2 Anders can run into his old comrades and superior officers a few times, and no one tries to drag him back or put him down.
I agree that I think it's just rather inconsistent that the first game makes the Grey Wardens feel like formal commitment, while the expansion and sequel make it seem like just a casual prestigious order you can join and leave whenever you feel like (which Jory got killed for thinking that's the way the Wardens functioned in the first game).
Well it was my understanding that Anders fusing with Justice and turning into an Abomination was largely behind his leaving and probably part of the reason that the Wardens didn't "really" want him back.
As for the rest, well, I personally believe that the endings that reflect most of them leaving the Wardens reflects a failure of leadership from the Warden-Commander not the fact that the Grey Wardens don't tend to take their duty seriously. (Of course it is entirely possible that with a Blight just finished that the Wardens largely do relax their stance and standards somewhat or that Duncan took a harsher stand with the Blight looming then customary.)
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