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[Porenferser]

One of my all-time favorite game characters.

It hurt me inside to reference such a great character in the same sentence as this shitbag excuse of a character.

[Natureguy85]

It hurt me inside to reference such a great character in the same sentence as this shitbag excuse of a character.

 

Also Legion was fantastic. They didn't explore his odd behavior in ME3 nearly enough and his death was stupid, but he was great in ME2. I guess Bioware writes good robots.

[ZerioctheTank]

I hate this man with a passion! Fenris & him almost ruined DA2 for me. Well not so much Fenris but more Anders. I gladly murder knife that.......thing & will do it again in a heartbeat.

[Reguire]

He was good in the Awakening but he became a total ****** with the Justice merger.

[Dutchess]

I doubt Anders' act of terrorism being inevitable is on Hepler. It was the climax of the story and triggered the final fight and the mage-templar war. Seems more like Gaider's responsibility to me. 

[YouKnowMyName]

Anders was a nice character in act I and II of Dragon Age II, but in act III he became too extreme and did the unforgivable.

 

I really liked him up until that point.

[Sarcastic Tasha]

Basically Anders is a villain, we're not supposed to like him. I actually quite liked that idea. He annoyed me all the way through the game (well except for when he was talking about kittens) but I did enjoy rivalling him. The only problem for me with rivalling him is that he then assumes you don't support the mages when its entirely possible (in fact really easy) to gain full rivalry with him for being a sassy blood mage. I suppose I'd describe Anders as a character I love to hate.

[God]

He was going off the deep end and he knew it. That's one thing I'll say. He knew he was losing control and couldn't help himself.

[Kirasdream13]

But it said that Jennifer Hepler took over the role for Dragon Age 2 as well as oversaw and wrote most of the Mage-Templar War.

 

She did take over writing Anders but his role was already set by Gaider, found here:

 

http://forum.bioware...ders/?p=5716103

[Dutchess]

From that link you posted it sounds like David never cared for what Jennifer Hepler did with Anders in DA2. Still it didn't give her the right to make Anders what the players hate as well as the quest to separate Justice from him pointless.

You are really seeing what you want to see then.

 

I would say Anders was quite successful even if I didn't approve of Jennifer's writing job on him-- which I very much do. I think she did a stellar job. While there's always some trepidation in seeing someone else touch your baby, I had no reservations once I saw how she handled him.

[ComedicSociopathy]

The man murdered over a hundred innocent people, most of whom had nothing to do with the conflict that he was so obsessed with. He did this knowing that the templars would use it as the perfect excuse to murder the very people whose freedom he apparently wanted to secure, allowing the mages of Kirkwall  to be slaughtered in the faint hope that their pointless death could start some kind of revolution that of course would lead to the deaths of thousands of more people and did. It's Reaper logic to a tee; I must get mages killed to ensure that they get their freedom. What?  

 

Furthermore, Anders had no plan for mage freedom after Kirkwall. No allies. No strongholds. No secret weapons. No military forces. No political friends. He was an insane, bipolar, idiot and abomination who started a ridiculous war that almost no one wanted and began with everybody in Thedas fearing once more mages because of his madness-induced actions. Even Varric of all people hates him and his fellow rebel mages ostracize and want nothing to do with him. 

 

The moron should have just stayed in Darktown and stuck to healing people instead of starting fights he couldn't possibly finish. 

[DirkJake]

I like Anders very much so. His character, the tragedy resulting from his actions, and the downward spiral from Act 1 to Act 3 are beautifully written and portrayed.

 

The moment he blew up the chantry is the moment I fall for him ever more. It kept me on edge and wanting to know more about the consequences. I like it when a character realizes what needs to be done for the sake of "justice." I like how he did not try to whitewash his actions and was willing to face the "murder knife."

 

His romance is also really well done. I like how he was thankful for the relationship, while he also warned you that things were going to get ugly. 

 

My Hawke always spared him and would probably bought him 10 kittens while he was away helping the inquisitor.

[sjsharp2011]

Anders was a nice character in act I and II of Dragon Age II, but in act III he became too extreme and did the unforgivable.
 
I really liked him up until that point.

so did I in my chats with Orsino and Meredith I went the neutral route and took both sieds feelings into account the moment Anders did that I knew I couldn't any longer and would be forced to pick a side being forced into something like that by somebody that was supposedly part of my team was unforgiveable and gave me no option but to kill him in my opinion.

[dongsaeng]

I haven't played DAA but did I romance him in my first playthrough and wasn't pleased that my efforts could not change him, it felt pointless going through his quest, but it did offer some depth to his character.

 

I killed him in the end though.

[Seracen]

I LOOOOVE Anders...in Dragon Age Awakenings...

 

The abrasive bigot that commits genocide, which we see in Dragon Age 2, is not Anders...it's whatever dregs were left after Justice got corrupted in the transfer of bodies...

 

As a story point, I actually like the tragedy (however ham-fisted the "turn" was), but Anders just wasn't the same.  Which is fine, change and death and all that...

[Dutchess]

And what am i supposed to see then? That a guy like David who is a fool to let his former co-worker do a sloppy job on Anders and lie to the public just to save embarrassment about it?

 

You can believe he is lying to protect a coworker if that's what you like. But you claimed his post suggested he was not happy with the job Helper did and there's just nothing supporting that. 

 

If you think Anders' character and role are poorly handled that's fine. I just wouldn't throw all the blame on Hepler. Had he been written by Gaider himself I doubt the result would have been very different.

[Natureguy85]

The man murdered over a hundred innocent people, most of whom had nothing to do with the conflict that he was so obsessed with. He did this knowing that the templars would use it as the perfect excuse to murder the very people whose freedom he apparently wanted to secure, allowing the mages of Kirkwall  to be slaughtered in the faint hope that their pointless death could start some kind of revolution that of course would lead to the deaths of thousands of more people and did. It's Reaper logic to a tee; I must get mages killed to ensure that they get their freedom. What?  

 

Furthermore, Anders had no plan for mage freedom after Kirkwall. No allies. No strongholds. No secret weapons. No military forces. No political friends. He was an insane, bipolar, idiot and abomination who started a ridiculous war that almost no one wanted and began with everybody in Thedas fearing once more mages because of his madness-induced actions. Even Varric of all people hates him and his fellow rebel mages ostracize and want nothing to do with him. 

 

The moron should have just stayed in Darktown and stuck to healing people instead starting fights he couldn't possibly finish. 

 

Nice Mass Effect reference. Hey, sometimes you need to destroy something to save it.

 

 

I like Anders very much so. His character, the tragedy resulting from his actions, and the downward spiral from Act 1 to Act 3 are beautifully written and portrayed.

 

The moment he blew up the chantry is the moment I fall for him ever more. It kept me on edge and wanting to know more about the consequences. I like it when a character realizes what needs to be done for the sake of "justice." I like how he did not try to whitewash his actions and was willing to face the "murder knife."

 

His romance is also really well done. I like how he was thankful for the relationship, while he also warned you that things were going to get ugly. 

 

My Hawke always spared him and would probably bought him 10 kittens while he was away helping the inquisitor.

 

That's messed up. You like that he kills innocents in an act that only hurts, not helps, his professed cause? You like that he purposely removed hope for a peaceful solution? He accepts the knife because he thinks it will lift him up a martyr. He isn't remorseful in the least for what he did.

[dreaming]

I do like him ^^ he was annoying from time to time but he was/is a nice guy after all.
I have to admit though that I was really shocked when he blew up the chantry ._. I actually just kinda shouted "What is wrong with you?!" luckily no one was around

[sjsharp2011]

Nice Mass Effect reference. Hey, sometimes you need to destroy something to save it.
 
 
 
That's messed up. You like that he kills innocents in an act that only hurts, not helps, his professed cause? You like that he purposely removed hope for a peaceful solution? He accepts the knife because he thinks it will lift him up a martyr. He isn't remorseful in the least for what he did.

I don't know about that as he was trying to argue for freedom for mages which is fair enough given they spend their lives locked in towers when they come into their power. The only problem in DA2 is the fact that a lot of the Kirkwall mages were practicing blood magic which we know is bad. We saw this earlier in the game with Merril and again at the end. Not all mages are evil and a lot are genuinely nice people like Anders I believe. I think that while his actions were understandable he just took them at the wrong place and at the wrong time because it ends up causing a war which ends up leading into Inquisition's story where it's your job to try and pick up the pieces somehow.