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[Hanako Ikezawa]

I'm surprised this thread is still in full swing. It might be one thing if "sexy" armor, as it's called, had a history of being in Dragon Age. With the exception of Morrigan and Isabela, whose outfits matched their personalities (they also weren't warriors), no one else has warn armor or clothing excessively revealing.

 

With that understood, I would like BioWare to personally continue the tradition of what they have established for Dragon Age. This isn't a matter of "choice" and "freedom." This is a matter of doing what is appropriate and makes sense for the franchise. Having obligatory bikini chain mail with Dead or Alive "boob physics" does not in anyway align with the philosophies of DA nor does it fit.

 

There are plenty of JRPGs that those of you who want "sexy armor" can play and live out your fantasies. If DAI ever has the luxury of obtaining mods on PC, I'm sure plenty of individuals will give the armor the "anime/hentai" treatment eventually, as that was always a popular topic for the modding community with Skyrim.

 

As I said before though, why not just unequip all of your companion's and Inquisitor's armor and play that way? You essentially are getting what you want. Just play on the casual setting and you'll be set.

Well, this post isn't insulting at all, is it? 

[Ryzaki]

Oh man this thread has gone into popcorn territory.

 

This has to be a troll. I refuse to believe anyone could say such things seriously.

[n7stormrunner]

I'm surprised this thread is still in full swing. It might be one thing if "sexy" armor, as it's called, had a history of being in Dragon Age. With the exception of Morrigan and Isabela, whose outfits matched their personalities (they also weren't warriors), no one else has warn armor or clothing excessively revealing.

 

With that understood, I would like BioWare to personally continue the tradition of what they have established for Dragon Age. This isn't a matter of "choice" and "freedom." This is a matter of doing what is appropriate and makes sense for the franchise. Having obligatory bikini chain mail with Dead or Alive "boob physics" does not in anyway align with the philosophies of DA nor does it fit.

 

There are plenty of JRPGs that those of you who want "sexy armor" can play and live out your fantasies. If DAI ever has the luxury of obtaining mods on PC, I'm sure plenty of individuals will give the armor the "anime/hentai" treatment eventually, as that was always a popular topic for the modding community with Skyrim.

 

As I said before though, why not just unequip all of your companion's and Inquisitor's armor and play that way? You essentially are getting what you want. Just play on the casual setting and you'll be set.

 

 

but thats not what I what, that not what I want at all. I have porn for looking at boobs and ecchi manga for underwear  why would I want them in dragon age?

 

I just want lighter armour for warriors, and pretty dresses for mages, why do you hate pretty dresses 

[Revan Reborn]

but thats not what I what, that not what I want at all. I have porn for looking at boobs and ecchi manga for underwear  why would I want them in dragon age?

 

I just want lighter armour for warriors, and pretty dresses for mages, why do you hate pretty dresses 

Well armor for warriors by default is classified as "heavy" armor. That has been the case in most RPGs and it certainly has been the tradition in DA, if not more so than most.

 

I'm all for variety and flexibility, as long as it makes sense. With what the OP and some of the other individuals in this thread have been asking for, however, does not fit the tone or the atmosphere of DA in the slightest.

 

Feel free to link some examples of what you believe would be appropriate, and perhaps BioWare may even take your suggestions seriously going forward with future titles. However, when the term "sexy" armor is used, it generally means not practical, overly-sexual, and that really has no place in DA whatsoever.

[Monster A-Go Go]

Intellectually feminism and puritan england strike me as being cut from the same cloth. At least whatever one I'm acquainted with, it's based on the notion of telling women what to do and how to do it, no different from an 18th century Anglican morality. It's enshacklement under the guise of emancipation, no different from any other standard liberal politicking. I fail to see how this is psuedo-intellectual.

 

Feminism isn't about telling women what to do.  It's about telling women they can do anything.

 

One can be a feminist and still be a housewife, a secretary, a stripper, or any other stereotype you can think of.  She can dress conservatively, provocatively, casually.  She can have children or not, she can stay single or not, she can be everything from a stay-at-home mom to corporate executive. The point is, it's her choice - not a societal dictate, not a cultural expectation, not a gender limitation. 

 

You obviously have a fundamental misconception of what feminism is and what its goals are. I recommend educating yourself through reputable sources (if you see the word "feminazi," you're in the wrong place). 

[Mecha Elf]

All I want are some form fitting armors for my female rogue, they can be sexy and badass. Sexy is nice when it is not forced

[DooomCookie]

I've grown to dislike sexy armour more and more and I don't think it's a matter of player freedom either.  A game should tell a cohesive story and that includes through the art, especially what the characters are wearing.  If you're making a realistic fantasy game, with realistic melee combat, then the armour should reflect that.

 

You can't expect players to take you seriously when you have dramatic cutscenes with women wearing metal accessories they look ready to burst out of.  It's out of character for both the character and the setting.  There are exceptions of course and mildly revealing clothing may say something about the character (Isabela and Morrigan most obviously).

 

You are breaking your story, in a small way, when you give players the freedom to wear visually jarring armour.  I say this as a gamer with an appreciation of storytelling.

[Mecha Elf]

And I dont think anyone is asking for chain mail bikinis. Just more feminine outfits, it is a fantasy setting right

[Revan Reborn]

And I dont think anyone is asking for chain mail bikinis. Just more feminine outfits, it is a fantasy setting right

The fact is BioWare is delivering more feminine outfits. Look at the male Inquisitor versus the female Inquisitor. It's essentially the same outfit, however each one is made to fit the form of the specific gender and looks entirely appropriate. Long gone are the days of just pasting the male armor set over the female and not making any alterations.

 

There is this notion that in order to be more "feminine" you also have to be more "revealing" or "sexy." That misguided belief has led to chainmail bikini and the infamous "boob plate" armor. None of this fits the tone of DA at all and I don't know why people are so shocked by this. This game is largely about war, death, destruction, and the balance of the entire planet at risk. Who would take a scantily-clad women swinging a greatsword twice her size seriously? This isn't Final Fantasy.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

@Reborn: 

 

Seriously, please drop the condescending tone from your posts.

[Chiramu]

Oh man this thread has gone into popcorn territory.

 

This has to be a troll. I refuse to believe anyone could say such things seriously.

 

This whole topic is facepalm territory. It's so old and outdated it's not funny.

[n7stormrunner]

Well armor for warriors by default is classified as "heavy" armor. That has been the case in most RPGs and it certainly has been the tradition in DA, if not more so than most.

 

I'm all for variety and flexibility, as long as it makes sense. With what the OP and some of the other individuals in this thread have been asking for, however, does not fit the tone or the atmosphere of DA in the slightest.

 

Feel free to link some examples of what you believe would be appropriate, and perhaps BioWare may even take your suggestions seriously going forward with future titles. However, when the term "sexy" armor is used, it generally means not practical, overly-sexual, and that really has no place in DA whatsoever.

 

 

*looks at isbella and morrigan* yeah no place right...

 

I'm not picky rome roman lorica style armor. a little leather armor perhaps, something beside big old plate and chain trying to be plate. maybe a barbarian style set for elves  and no tanks by common definition wear heavy. not all warriors are tanks. 

[Revan Reborn]

*looks at isbella and morrigan* yeah no place right...

 

I'm not picky rome roman lorica style armor. a little leather armor perhaps, something beside big old plate and chain trying to be plate. maybe a barbarian style set for elves  and no tanks by common definition wear heavy. not all warriors are tanks. 

Feel free to go back to my previous posts. I already explained that Morrigan and Isabela were exceptions. For one, their personality played largely into their attire. Secondly, neither of them was a warrior class. This thread is specifically referring to having more appealing and "sexy" armor than what has traditionally been seen in Dragon Age.

 

In the case of Dragon Age, all warriors are tanks. Warriors wear heavy armor and the definition of heavy armor is meant to "shield from damage." To be a more optimal tank you would obviously use a shield, but again, a warrior is meant to jump head-in first and soak up the damage. You may be better with picking rogue as your class, as medium armor seems to be more of what you are looking for.

[n7stormrunner]

Feel free to go back to my previous posts. I already explained that Morrigan and Isabela were exceptions. For one, their personality played largely into their attire. Secondly, neither of them was a warrior class. This thread is specifically referring to having more appealing and "sexy" armor than what has traditionally been seen in Dragon Age.

 

In the case of Dragon Age, all warriors are tanks. Warriors wear heavy armor and the definition of heavy armor is meant to "shield from damage." To be a more optimal tank you would obviously use a shield, but again, a warrior is meant to jump head-in first and soak up the damage. You may be better with picking rogue as your class, as medium armor seems to be more of what you are looking for.

 

 

no warrior is what I want... reaver in fact. and no thay aren't in fact reaver is dmg spec based on being hurt which goes against all logic for a mitigation  tank like your thinking of. 

 

 

and female elf armour.  feris, warrior and his armor had alot of gaps.

[Revan Reborn]

no warrior is what I want... reaver in fact. and no thay aren't in fact reaver is dmg spec based on being hurt which goes against all logic for a mitigation  tank like your thinking of. 

 

 

and female elf armour.  feris, warrior and his armor had alot of gaps.

Reaver doesn't contradict heavy armor at all. In fact, it only makes sense that armor that mitigates more would make Reaver viable. If you were just wearing cloth armor and you were a Reaver spec, you would never have an opportunity to use any of your abilities. Heavy armor will still give you better base protection than medium or light armor regardless of the specialization you choose.

 

If you notice in Dragon Age, elves have traditionally either been rogues/archers or mages. There are very few that are actually warriors, and that's partially lore-based. As far as Fenris' armor, half of what he is wearing is plate. With the exception of his arms not being covered, he is certainly wearing heavy armor.

 

 

We really shouldn't be focusing on companions, however, as they always generally have their own unique style and appeal. When dealing just with armor that is available to the PC, there has never been a lighter "heavy armor" and that is for the various reasons I have described above. Heavy armor will be no different in DAI.

[n7stormrunner]

Reaver doesn't contradict heavy armor at all. In fact, it only makes sense that armor that mitigates more would make Reaver viable. If you were just wearing cloth armor and you were a Reaver spec, you would never have an opportunity to use any of your abilities. Heavy armor will still give you better base protection than medium or light armor regardless of the specialization you choose.

 

If you notice in Dragon Age, elves have traditionally either been rogues/archers or mages. There are very few that are actually warriors, and that's partially lore-based. As far as Fenris' armor, half of what he is wearing is plate. With the exception of his arms not being covered, he is certainly wearing heavy armor.

 

 

We really shouldn't be focusing on companions, however, as they always generally have their own unique style and appeal. When dealing just with armor that is available to the PC, there has never been a lighter "heavy armor" and that is for the various reasons I have described above. Heavy armor will be no different in DAI.

 

 

did I ever said I was going to wear heavy armour? 

 

and no to much protection really messes with reavers. more health sure but too much mitigation makes it a pain to get health down low enough. learned that trying a S&S reaver in DA 2. surpisingly good dmg when you get it there though.

[Revan Reborn]

did I ever said I was going to wear heavy armour? 

 

and no to much protection really messes with reavers. more health sure but too much mitigation makes it a pain to get health down low enough. learned that trying a S&S reaver in DA 2. surpisingly good dmg when you get it there though.

You can wear whatever you'd like. That doesn't change the fact that heavy armor is for warriors, medium armor is for rogues, and light armor is for mages. That has always been the case for every Dragon Age game. With that understood, you are more than within your right to craft and build whatever type of hybrid you'd like. I'm just asserting that heavy armor by definition is a tank gear set. You don't have to necessarily be a tank to wear it.

[n7stormrunner]

You can wear whatever you'd like. That doesn't change the fact that heavy armor is for warriors, medium armor is for rogues, and light armor is for mages. That has always been the case for every Dragon Age game. With that understood, you are more than within your right to craft and build whatever type of hybrid you'd like. I'm just asserting that heavy armor by definition is a tank gear set. You don't have to necessarily be a tank to wear it.

 

 

*remembers playing as warriors in med,, rogues in light and mages in robes in DA: O* I don't think that right... 

[Revan Reborn]

*remembers playing as warriors in med,, rogues in light and mages in robes in DA: O* I don't think that right... 

I stand corrected. I forgot DAO had a ridiculous system of light/medium/heavy/massive/etc. Even with that being the case, notice the actual stats that are applied to the armor. Strength, of which is the main attribute for warriors, and your main source of damage, scales based on the armor type. The more strength (damage) you have, the heavier the armor set you can wear.

[n7stormrunner]

I stand corrected. I forgot DAO had a ridiculous system of light/medium/heavy/massive/etc. Even with that being the case, notice the actual stats that are applied to the armor. Strength, of which is the main attribute for warriors, and your main source of damage, scales based on the armor type. The more strength (damage) you have, the heavier the armor set you can wear.

 

 

well yeah you would need to more strenght to wear heavier armour.  and not ridiculous at all. it made perfect sense and gave far more customization than the b.s. lowest common denominator logic your preaching.   

[n7stormrunner]

Dragonskin plated assless chaps or GTFO

 

 

long as I don't have to use em sure.   what they chafe 

[Revan Reborn]

well yeah you would need to more strenght to wear heavier armour.  and not ridiculous at all. it made perfect sense and gave far more customization than the b.s. lowest common denominator logic your preaching.   

That was DAO, however, which isn't exactly the standard now and is a bit outdated. At least from the demos BioWare has shown for DAI, the description for warriors (two-handed or sword and shield) both had heavy armor as their default. I wouldn't rely too heavily on what worked in a game five years ago to compare to how classes and builds will work now.

[SamanthaJ]

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[n7stormrunner]

That was DAO, however, which isn't exactly the standard now and is a bit outdated. At least from the demos BioWare has shown for DAI, the description for warriors (two-handed or sword and shield) both had heavy armor as their default. I wouldn't rely too heavily on what worked in a game five years ago to compare to how classes and builds will work now.

 

thats not how builds work... and you clearly need to replay DA: O it was standard to a fault.