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[In Exile]

I think we'll have to agree to disagree then.

 

I think armor still needs to make a bit of sense in-universe, and that includes keeping all the vital bits covered by armor. Fighting dragons may require some suspension of disbelief, but it makes sense in-universe because its been established as part of the lore that people can kill dragons. It hasn't been established that naked flesh can repel arrows and sword strikes. And even if armor doesn't protect against dragons, it does protect against mundane warriors...who are much more likely to be commonly encountered foes than dragons.

 

I agree that armour needs to make sense, and I'm not a fan of random uncovered skin in what should be heavy or medium armour. Even so-called "light" armour shouldn't leave skin exposed unless the period we're simulating is antiquity rather than medieval. 

 

I'm just saying that you don't need to rationalize armour stopping magic, when most likely the non-abstracted lore answer is that the person is actually dodging. 

[GrinningRogue]

This thread is very tempting to rant on. I really don't understand why people would want revealing armor in a game that clearly shows a crapsack medieval world. It's like buying a lensless glasses and then going ahead to wearing it while you are welding something.

[xkg]

^ Belive me but there are not many of them in this thread. You can count them on one hand's fingers.

 

Just reserve your bigest one for ... nah, you will figure it out quickly

[GrinningRogue]

Already have. I'm a lurker.

[PhroXenGold]

If you enjoy it check out Shingetsutan Tsukihime as well, if you didn't already. It's another story/series taking place in the same universe.

 

Just to clarify this, if you like F/SN, you should get hold of the visual novel of Tsukihime, as, despite what some would claim, there is no Tsukihime anime. It never happened.

 

You should also watch Kara No Kyoukai, which is probably Nasu's finest series, albeit a little more slow paced and thoughtful than either of his two more famous works.

[Shadow Fox]

Just to clarify this, if you like F/SN, you should get hold of the visual novel of Tsukihime, as, despite what some would claim, there is no Tsukihime anime. It never happened.

 

You should also watch Kara No Kyoukai, which is probably Nasu's finest series, albeit a little more slow paced and thoughtful than either of his two more famous works.

We call this denial.

[AutumnWitch]

Romans managed ok while having a muscle cuirass, conquering all known world.

 

 

 

 

the Romans HARDLY conquered the whole known world. They bloody well couldn't even take all of Alba (Scotland). The map below shows the Roman Empire at its greatest.

 

[PhroXenGold]

We call this denial.

 

No, that's a river in Egypt.

 

But seriously, I can't believe the people that made that anime got further than the plot summary on the VN's box. I can live with adaptions not following their source material exactly - in fact I prefer it - but there comes a point when you bastardise it so much, miss out major plot points, utterly change character's personalities and motivations and so on than it can no longer be considered the same story.

 

And the VN is damn good. So why anyone would want to watch the (nonexistent) anime, I don't know.

[9TailsFox]

Sexy outfits in DA:I conformed. Copy from DA3 meme thread.

[Rykoth]

I think what it comes down to is this...

 

People like Kefka are arguing for nonsensical armors like the ones you see in TERA or a lot of adult themed anime.

 

Most of us are saying "that has no place in the lore."

 

While some people are saying they'd like the option of something kinda like what Isabela or Morrigan has. As an option.

 

See. Here's also the difference between that stuff.

 

Armor calling itself full plate but really it's just boob cups and a thong is tasteless. And it shouldn't be in any self respecting game - or lady respecting game. It's not sexy. Nudity itself isn't even sexy. Nudity for the sake of nudity is just nudity. In this case, it's just calling needless attention, and it is just objectifying a woman's body parts.

 

Something like Isabela or Morrigan? Hell, even Aribeth, while not so practical doesn't look out of place, despite that being a different franchise.

 

But really... the problem is, I think when most people bring up sexy armors, they're not really talking about stuff that's actually sexy, they're talking about stuff that's tasteless. Battle thongs away! That's the stuff that people have a problem with, and that's what game developers should eliminate.

[Voragoras]

Just to clarify this, if you like F/SN, you should get hold of the visual novel of Tsukihime, as, despite what some would claim, there is no Tsukihime anime. It never happened.

 

You should also watch Kara No Kyoukai, which is probably Nasu's finest series, albeit a little more slow paced and thoughtful than either of his two more famous works.

 

Just pointing out that my favourite group sings a lot of songs for Kara no Kyoukai as well...

 

 

the Romans HARDLY conquered the whole known world. They bloody well couldn't even take all of Alba (Scotland). The map below shows the Roman Empire at its greatest.

 

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The known world is different from the world. I think the Romans probably could claim to have conquered most of the known world, because to them, their empire pretty much encompasses it.

 

That being said, the scope of their empire is overstated on occasion.

[PhroXenGold]

Just pointing out that my favourite group sings a lot of songs for Kara no Kyoukai as well...

 

Kalafina or FictionJunction? I forget which it was for KnK. Good either way. Hell, anything Yuki Kajiura is freakin' amazing

[Voragoras]

Kalafina or FictionJunction? I forget which it was for KnK. Good either way. Hell, anything Yuki Kajiura is freakin' amazing

 

Kalafina, though I like them both.

 

I saw them live once. It was amazing.

[PhroXenGold]

I saw them live once. It was amazing.

 I hate you...

[Voragoras]

 I hate you...

 

They played in Germany and I legit dropped like £2k to go see them, hahaha. They were playing in Paris in July again this year, but I didn't have the money to go this time.

[melliot24]

 

I like what they did with Sif's armor in Thor.  Still sexy and sylish, without being too revealing or unbelievable. 

[SNascimento]

the Romans HARDLY conquered the whole known world. They bloody well couldn't even take all of Alba (Scotland). The map below shows the Roman Empire at its greatest.

Well, it's not like there was something worth there. Just like Germany. 

But the point is: armor is good. 

[SNascimento]

Also, talking about Sif, what do you guys make of Wonder Woman's costume in the upcoming Batman v Superman?

[In Exile]

Also, talking about Sif, what do you guys make of Wonder Woman's costume in the upcoming Batman v Superman?

I prefer versions of wonder woman with pants. But I also don't think the build works right - I see WW as being more solidly build, so that the skimpy clothes are more intimidating that basically lingere.

[puppyofwar]

Also, talking about Sif, what do you guys make of Wonder Woman's costume in the upcoming Batman v Superman?

 

I found her lack of pants....disturbing..*Sith hand gesture

 

Seriously though, can she even bend her knees with those steel boots?

 

For me, this one is more piratical

[tmp7704]

Seriously though, can she even bend her knees with those steel boots?

If you squint you can see that the boots reach much lower in the back, leaving back of the knee exposed and allowing the leg to bend.

[Voragoras]

Well, it's not like there was something worth there. Just like Germany. 

But the point is: armor is good. 

 

It isn't necessarily about looting - annexation can easily be viewed as defensive imperialism. Conquering the native tribes so that they can't pose a threat to the security of the empire in the future (which is ironically how Rome arguably fell).

[SNascimento]

It isn't necessarily about looting - annexation can easily be viewed as defensive imperialism. Conquering the native tribes so that they can't pose a threat to the security of the empire in the future (which is ironically how Rome arguably fell).

You can only conquer and keep so much territory... in that line of thought they would have to conquer the whole of Europe and Russia. One of the reasons the romans didn't exapnd to Germany is that they were convinced the Rhine makes a good frontier. And it did, for centuries. It was the weakning of the roman state that allowed the barbarian to invade and eventually control the territory of the former Western Roman Empire.

[puppyofwar]

If you squint you can see that the boots reach much lower in the back, leaving back of the knee exposed and allowing the leg to bend.

Ah, I see. Mea culpa 

[GrinningRogue]

If you squint you can see that the boots reach much lower in the back, leaving back of the knee exposed and allowing the leg to bend.

I think it has heels.