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Considering how much those swords weigh I'd be hard pressed to see anyone who is capable to using them as effectively or consistently as the PCs and NPCs in Dragon Age. Seriously I don't think I could lift some of the more fancy broadswords over my head, much less swing it with ease.
Two-handed swords weighed about six pounds.
Would there even be mods DAI?In general there are people being stupid on both sides of it and want it to be an "all or nothing" sort of deal.
Ideally we would have both types of armours and be able to choose for ourselves which one we want to use. On PC at least, the modding community will ensure that this is the case.
And if you play a Dalish origin, you're forced to wear the tiny belly shirt at the beginning. Even after I got better armour for myself, I had a hard time finding decent light armour for the rogues, and poor Leliana was stuck wearing it for half the game.
I think that could have worked for the Dalish if the entire culture was portrayed as being similar to say...French and Indian War era Native Americans. Unarmored could have worked if the entire people were woodland hunter/gathers and their military culture was that of light infantry, skirmishing, and raids.
If the entire culture looked something like this, it would have been fine:
I think why it didn't work was that the male Dalish were fairly well armored (if lightly so), while the females were going practically without.
Yeah there isn't a person alive who could take a step in that.
All in all I don't like this discussion too much, I want there to be more games with Battle Lingerie just as I want more games with realistic armor designs, or games with high fantasy armor designs full of the casual disregard of the laws of physics (both overly large and with armor that doesn't work). I just like armor and like how it works, big or small, TERA or /r/armoredwomen and I don't want to have to choose.
The problem is we fans of realistic armor or armors close to realism have been largely neglected by game developers (And movie directors) for years and years. There is tons of games out there that feature chain mail bikinis and high fantasy armors.
Since DA:I isn't really such high fantasy it would lend itself well to semi-realistic armor.
That guy isn't even able to lift his arms without squishing his head and neck. Thats one hell of a nice looking metal strait jacket.
see thats your opinion and also why must people try so hard to add realism to a game with drsgons and magic thats very stupid if you ask me. if i want my tank to wear somthing like this your saying i cant because its not realistic in a fantasy game? why must we all have to wear armor according to certain peoples drees code does this mean you had a problem with the juggernaught armor in DAO and what about the volcanic armor? its called HEAVY ARMOR FOR A REASON. also shouldnt iron bull be able to lift this. how can you femenist ask for less reaviling armor yet ry and restric others for wearing stuff like this. what about the dragonbone armor or the deadric armor from skyrim? you had problems with those to? its a freaking fantasy game i swear the bioware fanbase is made up of some of the most nagging and complaing people in the universe
Would there even be mods DAI?
It's PC gaming.
We'll find a way, even if BioWare doesn't have in-game support for it =P
DA being fantasy doesn't mean it's okay disregard lore consistency.
As we have seen in DAO the Warden was nearly killed by a single arrow. So unless the person is Tallis or the second coming of Dassem Ultor or Fingolfin, Thedosians seriously need to cover up on the battlefield.
Armor does next to nothing against arrows, so even if you were wearing some fantastic full plate an analogous arrow would pierce it and could kill you (depending on the bow/crossbow.
And to follow up with HTTP 404 and Cyonan, this is why I love modding, armor mods.
Considering how much those swords weigh I'd be hard pressed to see anyone who is capable to using them as effectively or consistently as the PCs and NPCs in Dragon Age. Seriously I don't think I could lift some of the more fancy broadswords over my head, much less swing it with ease.
A two-handed greatsword was about 5 to 7 pounds IIRC, and I think 8 was in the case of impractically heavy, mostly ceremonial affairs. Not fit for a person with noodly arms, but a reasonably strong woman like Cassandra shouldn't have too much trouble using one effectively. They would realistically do less damage with it than, say, a walking brickhouse like Iron Bull, but games don't have to be 100% realist either.
see thats your opinion and also why must people try so hard to add realism to a game with drsgons and magic thats very stupid if you ask me. if i want my tank to wear somthing like this your saying i cant because its not realistic in a fantasy game?
I'm stating my opinion just like you, however, it is fact and not my opinion that no person could fight in this armor because its physically impossible for the wearer to even make basic moves in it. One who cant move his arms cannot do much sword fighting.
Also just because it features dragons doesn't mean anything should be possible in the game, would you be happy if we could ride armored flying bunnies and shoot plasma guns in DAI because its, you know, fantasy where anything is possible?
I prefer there to be options of each type of armor. That way everyone can wear the style of armor they prefer.
This.
And if a set of armor is bikini armor on a female it should be skimpy on males as well.
I just want some consistency.
Armor does next to nothing against arrows, so even if you were wearing some fantastic full plate an analogous arrow would pierce it and could kill you (depending on the bow/crossbow.
And to follow up with HTTP 404 and Cyonan, this is why I love modding, armor mods.
Two-handed swords weighed about six pounds.
Then I'm totally wrong, like seriously totally wrong and my entire point should be disregarded. Apparently it came from a wildly inaccurate source that stated that medieval swords were 20lbs on the low end. Seriously super wrong.
The problem is we fans of realistic armor or armors close to realism have been largely neglected by game developers (And movie directors) for years and years. There is tons of games out there that feature chain mail bikinis and high fantasy armors.
Since DA:I isn't really such high fantasy it would lend itself well to semi-realistic armor.
Yeah I feel your pain, it might be surprising but I actually prefer the heavier semi-realistic armor, but I often see a lot of people with similar interests being very hostile to the sexualized unrealistic type. I just usually argue for the other side because I feel that the pro-semi-realistic armor fans do a better job of expressing why I like it than the pro-battle lingerie side.
I wasn't aware that to be feminine, one needed to show the T&A.
You don't NEED to, but sometimes it's fun. For me, when I'm playing a female warrior, I want functional, realistic armor. When I'm playing a female rogue, I want to be able to wear something like Isabella does. The idea with that type of Rogue is to not be hit, so I don't want anything heavier than leather and if I'm playing the type of character who would like to use her body as a distraction to help in not getting hit, I want that option. If I'm playing a female Mage...I mostly want pretty dresses. Although if I decide to go full on dominatrix, I don't see why I shouldn't have that option either.
But to the point of this thread, if I'm playing a warrior I should mostly just have functional armor.
Though it's puncturing capabilities are also dependent on the arrowhead type, and distance.Armor does next to nothing against arrows, so even if you were wearing some fantastic full plate an analogous arrow would pierce it and could kill you (depending on the bow/crossbow.
You don't NEED to, but sometimes it's fun. For me, when I'm playing a female warrior, I want functional, realistic armor. When I'm playing a female rogue, I want to be able to wear something like Isabella does. The idea with that type of Rogue is to not be hit, so I don't want anything heavier than leather and if I'm playing the type of character who would like to use her body as a distraction to help in not getting hit, I want that option. If I'm playing a female Mage...I mostly want pretty dresses. Although if I decide to go full on dominatrix, I don't see why I shouldn't have that option either.
But to the point of this thread, if I'm playing a warrior I should mostly just have functional armor.
You know I agree.
I think a lot of people are just so defensive because for the most part females got stuck with just the sexy armor. There was no choice really. So when people ask for sexy armor we (I can get like this myself) get defensive and go hell no.
But stepping back and looking at it I'm fine with sexy armor as long as it's consistent between genders and there's an equal amount of practical armor as well. And is most importantly a choice and not once forced on the player.
I think all the female warriors in the game should be made to dress like this
I just want more armor reminiscent of this. I'm not looking for super sexy gotta show it all armor. I'm also not looking for traditional designed for masculine aesthetic armors either. I want something that gives of more feminine qualities, like this armor does. You can easily by making use of cloths, and more feminine/girly designs, make armor that is reminiscent of a dress or other feminine garments, without destroying it's protective qualities.
Instead, we get either chainmail bikinis or damn near the exact same masculine inspired armor the men have. I'm so sick of the damn extremes, and I'm so sick of more feminine inspired armor themes being lumped in with chainmail bikinis.
I have no problem with "practical" design constraints if we remove the damn masculine design bias and start bringing some more feminine qualities into the designs. Armor was traditionally designed by men, for men, in a world were men did 95% of the fighting.
In a world where men and women are equally warriors and yet feminine clothes and designs still exist such as dresses, ect, I have trouble believing all armor designs would still follow the same boring masculine template our cultures followed. Let's see some armors that are made and designed for women with more traditionally feminine tastes. There's no reason we should be bound to the masculine ideal with our armors.
I'm stating my opinion just like you, however, it is fact and not my opinion that no person could fight in this armor because its physically impossible for the wearer to even make basic moves in it. One who cant move his arms cannot do much sword fighting.
Also just because it features dragons doesn't mean anything should be possible in the game, would you be happy if we could ride armored flying bunnies and shoot plasma guns in DAI because its, you know, fantasy where anything is possible?
ok so your saying the juggernaught armor was ok and the volcanic armor. also your wrong iron bull should be able to fight in this armor consider the giant iron peice he already has on his shoulder. and what about sauron or thor or wonder woman or the freakin hulk they could all wear this
Late plate armors could stop matchlock bullets, bullets weighing 500-700 grains at speeds up to 500 meters a second. Such armor surely stopped an arrow with 1/100 of the energy.
Further research into the subject matter states that the best made armor could not be pierced by most long bows at the time, but from a physics standpoint, it's not possible to develop an armor that can resist itself with direction and force (which is to say if the longbows were of comparable quality they would of pierced the very best armor).
Sorry, I just don't understand that sentence, ''resist itself?''but from a physics standpoint, it's not possible to develop an armor that can resist itself with direction and force
Sorry, I just don't understand that sentence, ''resist itself?''
I mean if the same quality of materials is used in a weapon the armor wouldn't be able to resist it. Like if the arrow heads were used from the same alloy as the armor it should pierce it, given a strong enough bow. Basically I'm saying while Dragon Age armor is a lot better so too are the arrows and the bows, so they can pierce the armor effectively.
I mean if the same quality of materials is used in a weapon the armor wouldn't be able to resist it. Like if the arrow heads were used from the same alloy as the armor it should pierce it, given a strong enough bow. Basically I'm saying while Dragon Age armor is a lot better so too are the arrows and the bows, so they can pierce the armor effectively.
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