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[SardaukarElite]

You mean the shy moe stare

 

I wouldn't know.

 

Hey, this is serious business

 

Deceptively so.

[Voragoras]

Hey, this is serious business

 

Exactly. Are you mocking our scientific inquiries?

[Serendipity]

I’m a lurker, and I made a forum account just to address this, so I guess that indicates at least some of my chagrin. Especially with you, Kefka.

So here I go: 

 

If I wish for my character to be regarded in a certain manner, it seems only logical that she dress for the part. The Inquisitor is a public figure that is responsible for leading what is to become a dominant, powerful organisation within the world of Thedas, a setting that has never before been infected with over sexualised armours for women, or for men. 

 

Thedas, has a certain flavour, possessing a highly motivating storyline, I believe that it is a world that is founded in intriguing and fascinating lore. Within the context of the world, some things are possible, while others do not make sense.

 

The existence of magic and dragons does not give a leeway to other aspects that are blatant offences to the established world, such as the (in my most humble opinion of course) abhorrent, albeit (and with great sarcasm) cute ‘outfits’ (they reveal more than they cover up) that you attempt to persuade us to enjoy or at least endorse with your superfluous, fraudulent, and poorly concocted cries for the liberation of female sexuality. 

 

I shall attempt to break things down into some points, and don’t think to ignore the bulk or my argument while focusing on some insignificant line in this post, as you have with so many others. 

 

Lets focus on what has painted my view of the matter;

I’m a woman. When I work, I don’t wear my underwear, I like to think I dress well, and respectably. 

There is a time and place for everything. Clothing encouraging sex is accepted in situations that call for it, such as when wooing a loved one and opening a bottle of wine to settle in for the night. 

Dresses embellished with garish jewels do not belong on the field of battle, perhaps one should keep such resplendent baubles and frocks to Orlesian balls or while meandering around a city, when one is not at risk from being shot, stabbed, slashed, crushed, set on fire, frozen , garrotted, etc. 

As others have stated, your argument seems backwards and pandering far less to women, but to men who enjoy looking at a certain type of women. 

 

Furthermore;

It is a ridiculous and insulting notion that women choosing to wear protective armour in battle, are prudish as you have stated with Cassandra. Armour is made to protect (as has been stated Ad nauseam. Yes, this is relevant in Thedas, no, magic and dragons do not mean that suddenly everyone’s skin is made of diamond.) 

In this game, the PC is the Inquisitor. He or she is therefore placed in a position of leadership. When, at least I give commands, when I am to be taken in a serious manner, I will dress the part. This probably means that I will not display my ‘assets’ in order to entice others, to feel ‘liberated’ in my ’sexuality’ and in the ‘freedom’ that a vulgar and provocative display of my breasts and ass offers to others that may ‘enjoy the view'. If I want to be taken seriously, as a military commander and religious icon, I will avoid looking like a hyper-sexualised bimbo. Furthermore, it is not the goal of many women to ‘escape’ reality by being beautiful, believe it or not, many of us have a bit more depth than that. We don’t play games to feel sexy, we play them to enjoy stabbing darkspawn and experiencing an intricate, detailed storyline filled with philosophical nuances and interacting with compelling characters. 

 

Moreover; I find it quite shocking that you would ever propose or suggest that women who do not strut around like strippers (because let us be honest, the majority of images that you posted to this forum bring only those kinds of individuals to mind) are prudish and unattractive. Dressing conservatively does not make one ashamed, afraid nor ‘un-feminine’. The idea is absurd, I am no less a woman for refusing to reveal my side-boob to strangers. I simply seem to value many other things above how beautiful someone is, their skills, personality, wit, wisdom and loyalty all come into play far more than their appearance. This is what makes a game fun for me, and I also believe, from what I have seen on the forums, many other people feel the same. My dislike for you increased greatly when you stated that the lack of ‘attractive’ women was ruining the game, just as much as your unfounded criticism of Josephine made me grind my teeth in frustration. She is not an active combatant, this does not make her any less useful, any less intelligent, powerful or influential within the game's universe. She is obviously intelligent and a skilled diplomat, and like it or not, at least the game has enough depth to put weight upon more than just how sexy someone is, and how well they can swing that sword. Not everyone makes their marks upon the world through blood-shed, some utilise clever politics and intrigue. Josephine seems to be one of those. 

 

So now I’ve ranted for a while, and I guess that that’s it for me- I’m going to disappear back into the gloom of silent disgruntlement. 

[Giantdeathrobot]

Zelda is not a kid's game. It's a game for people who appreciate good games.

 

They're not kid games, but as far as I'm concerned after Wind Waker they stopped being good games and are just rehashes that go through the motions.

[Heimdall]

They're kids' games that adults can appreciate, really.

I prefer: games for everyone

[The Baconer]

I think I just find it extremely odd that a person's fantasy would not involve sex or a cute outfit, what exactly are they fantasizing about?

 

Oh, so that's what this is really about.

[Muspade]

Oh, so that's what this is really about.

My fantasies look a bit like this, every now and then:

Spoiler

[Hadeedak]

I have a tendency towards action adventure fantasies myself. Thinking of places to go, conversations to have, and occasionally Mary Marvel punching people in the face. And stories I mean to write, for real, but first I have to get back to ignoring the one I'm working on right now and OH LOOK FORUMS.

 

If all people ever fantasized about was sex and cute outfits, games, novels, TV, movies and everything would look a heckuva a lot different. And a bit... flatter.

[Lilaeth]

I think it's hysterical that Kefka is being told by various RL women what they find unacceptable about those 'sexy' armours, and he's still not getting the point.  He's either as thick as mince or a troll.  Or a thick as mince troll. With a thing for Puritans...

 

Some of my fantasies involve discovering a lost tomb (I have a degree in archaeology), being Buffy, things like that - they don't require a 'cute' outfit or sex, and yet they are perfectly good fantasies.  I'd worry about a person whose fantasies were only about sex!

[Hadeedak]

Well, I do think he wants us to aknowledge his view.

 

Which isn't more 'wrong' than any other point of view, but isn't one I particularly care for personally, and that clashes hideously with my personal aesthetic and sensibilities (much like most fancy armor clashes badumtsh).

 

 

Sometimes, a cigar should just be a perfectly functional cigar and not a metaphor or hint for anything else. It should fufill its cigar duties first.

[Lilaeth]

But at least if you were wearing functional armour, you'd be less likely to be burnt by that cigar! 

[Lady Luminous]

It depends entirely on the situation as to how important sex appeal is. If you going to a bar with the intention of picking up a <person of whichever sex you desire> yes, sex appeal is a major factor. If you're going to a job interview (for something other than "stripper"), then it's not - looking smart and professional is far more important. If you turn up to an interview to become an accountant dressed in a glorified bikini, you ain't getting the job, not matter how sexy you are. If you're going on a trek to the North Pole, sex appeal is irrelevant as to your outfit, what matters is keeping you warm and being comfortable to wear when walking for long periods of time in an adverse environment. Try wearing sexy clothes and you'll end up dead of hypothermia. Likewise, when going into battle, sex appeal is a long long way down the list of what's important. Protection, ease of mobility and comfort are what matters. Not flashing as much flesh as possible

 

Damnit, I always run out of likes!

[Lady Luminous]

Wait, are y'all telling me that Kefka is a guy?

 

I've been arguing with him this entire time, thinking he was a delusional chick!

[Voragoras]

Wait, are y'all telling me that Kefka is a guy?

 

I've been arguing with him this entire time, thinking he was a delusional chick!

 

If he is a girl, he should post a picture of himself in a bra and panties for us all to gawk at. Otherwise, he's just a Puritan prude who hates sexuality and wants to oppress females everywhere.

 

Logic!

[Lady Luminous]

If he is a girl, he should post a picture of himself in a bra and panties for us all to gawk at. Otherwise, he's just a Puritan prude who hates sexuality and wants to oppress females everywhere.

 

Logic!

 

Or at the very least a chainmail bikini

[Grieving Natashina]

I'm beyond caring at this point what Kefka thinks.   Whatever is clever, so long as as it's equal.

 

[Nattfare]

Or at the very least a chainmail bikini

 

Not a woman, but I could always post a picture of myself in a chainmail bikini.

[Lady Luminous]

Not a woman, but I could always post a picture of myself in a chainmail bikini.

 

Ooh la la, how risque

[Grieving Natashina]

Not a woman, but I could always post a picture of myself in a chainmail bikini.

Make sure that it has leather padding for the straps, cup and for the bottom.  You don't want the bottom half getting caught in your hair or, um, other things.

[Nattfare]

Hair? I don't have that long hair... oh, oh! Wait...

 

I guess getting the other things stuck in the rings could hurt a little... whatever those other things are anyway.

[Serendipity]

I guess that I'd mostly just have an issue when taking commands from someone that looks like this: 

 

or

 

 

seriously just as much as I'd have an issue with my leader deciding to turn up to battle like this: 

 

 

[Grieving Natashina]

Here you go: