Circle. I also sensibly wouldn't spend my time whining about the free education/health care/roof over my head and garner enough trust to be given day passes from time to time.
Better to be a Circle mage or Warden mage?
#26
Posté 28 septembre 2014 - 07:41
#27
Posté 28 septembre 2014 - 07:41
Out of the two I'd go Warden Mage. Plenty of opportunities to cut loose unlike the Circle. Less Chantry scrutiny as well depending on which chapter. And lastly, it's for a cause. Rather be praised than reviled.
Well to be fair not many people praise the wardens either as Kristoff so brilliantly put it:
“You will guard them and they will hate you for it. Whenever there is not a Blight actively crawling over the surface, humanity will do its best to forget how much they need you. And that's good. We need to stand apart from them, even if they have to push us away to make us do it. That is the only way we can ever make the hard decisions.” ―Kristoff, former Commander of the Grey of Orlais
#28
Posté 28 septembre 2014 - 07:41
Warden, no doubt about it.
#29
Posté 28 septembre 2014 - 07:43
You can find people who don't have sex everywhere. If there are mages that have had sex, then mages have sex.
I agree. It isn't like Wynne never had a child while she was in the Circle.
And yes, she is a mother, and no, she came to the circle at an age of nine.
#30
Posté 28 septembre 2014 - 07:43
I suppose it depends on if you prefer freedom or safety. Even so, the circle doesn't really guarantee safety with the harrowing, abusive templars, and right of annulment... so I'll say Warden definitely.
#31
Guest_TheDarkKnightReturns_*
Posté 28 septembre 2014 - 07:44
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Well to be fair not many people praise the wardens either as Kristoff so brilliantly put it:
“You will guard them and they will hate you for it. Whenever there is not a Blight actively crawling over the surface, humanity will do its best to forget how much they need you. And that's good. We need to stand apart from them, even if they have to push us away to make us do it. That is the only way we can ever make the hard decisions.” ―Kristoff, former Commander of the Grey of Orlais
Maybe praise wasn't the right word. Respect.
#32
Posté 28 septembre 2014 - 07:46
- Tamyn aime ceci
#33
Posté 28 septembre 2014 - 07:47
Maybe praise wasn't the right word. Respect.
They don't really respect the Grey Wardens either.
#34
Posté 28 septembre 2014 - 07:49
everyone who said Warden would have to LIVE through the joining first, and that is no small feat to accomplish.
- Tamyn et RobRam10 aiment ceci
#35
Posté 28 septembre 2014 - 07:52
IF those are the only choices...then I pick neither even if It mean you end up dead -Critical failur-Game over ![]()
#36
Posté 28 septembre 2014 - 07:53
still a warden if you die WoT says. And its either death from a templar/demon/abomination i think ill take the blood that way its quick and if i live.... FREEDOM loleveryone who said Warden would have to LIVE through the joining first, and that is no small feat to accomplish.
#37
Posté 28 septembre 2014 - 07:53
everyone who said Warden would have to LIVE through the joining first, and that is no small feat to accomplish.
*sigh* This choice just keeps getting better...
- animedreamer aime ceci
#38
Guest_TheDarkKnightReturns_*
Posté 28 septembre 2014 - 07:54
Guest_TheDarkKnightReturns_*
They don't really respect the Grey Wardens either.
The common folk do. Really, who is else is fighting darkspawn? Templars, mages, dwarves, elves, human. All those conflicts are about dogma and ideology. All that crap pales in comparison to the Blight which is a world breaker.
#39
Posté 28 septembre 2014 - 07:54
In order to qualify my earlier statement: I would choose the Circle if not for my hostility to the Chantry and its ideology. The conditions in the Circles, if it isn't exactly Kirkwall, tend to be comparably pleasant compared to the life of a Warden and the only disadvantage is the interment. Add the Chantry's ideology, however, and the fact it blames mages in general for the world's greatest evils and associates me with Tevinter magisters, this becomes intolerable.
- Solrest et SmilesJA aiment ceci
#40
Posté 28 septembre 2014 - 07:54
Circle Mage
The abuse seen at the Kirkwall circle isn't universal. My mage PC was devout and thought the templars were doing what was right, the line about protecting the world from the potential danger of mages but also protecting the mages from an ignorant, fearful world holds true for her.
#41
Guest_TheDarkKnightReturns_*
Posté 28 septembre 2014 - 07:55
Guest_TheDarkKnightReturns_*
*sigh* This choice just keeps getting better...
You die a Warden. Better to risk for something worth while than sit in a tower and wait for your lot in life to change.
- Chernaya et SmilesJA aiment ceci
#42
Posté 28 septembre 2014 - 07:55
everyone who said Warden would have to LIVE through the joining first, and that is no small feat to accomplish.
True... so the joining, or the harrowing. Both are pretty scary. I think the harrowing has a higher success rate though. I'd still take the joining, for a chance for my freedom.
I don't really get when people argue circle mages shouldn't complain because they are taken care of. If someone locked me up in a luxurious prison for the rest of my life (while I was innocent), I wouldn't really care how fluffy my bed was, I would want my life back, personally. "Don't be such a whiner, we took away your personal freedom and your chance to have a life and family, but we feed you!" ![]()
- Xilizhra, Solrest et Owlfruit Potion aiment ceci
#43
Posté 28 septembre 2014 - 07:56
You die a Warden. Better to risk for something worth while than sit in a tower and wait for your lot in life to change.
I'd rather die a a 60 year old virgin in the Circle tower than leave the tower and die from the Joining. Can we at least hit the Pearl before I drink from the chalice?
- raging_monkey, Steelcan et Br3admax aiment ceci
#44
Posté 28 septembre 2014 - 07:56
Warden mage. And then I would do what Avernus did and delay the Calling indefinitely.
#45
Posté 28 septembre 2014 - 07:57
I'd rather die a a 60 year old virgin in the Circle tower than leave the tower and die from the Joining. Can we at least hit the Pearl before I drink from the chalice?
No.
#46
Posté 28 septembre 2014 - 07:57
everyone who said Warden would have to LIVE through the joining first, and that is no small feat to accomplish.
Huh, good point.
Do we actually know the odds of surviving the joining or anything? Like 50/50 or 60/40?
Based entirely of the joinings we've seen in the games its 7 alive, 3 dead I think.
#47
Posté 28 septembre 2014 - 07:57
There might be a good reason Fiona dropped the whole Grey Warden thing and went back to the Circle.
Well, she's now immune to the taint so being a GW (for her) isn't as bad as it is for others.
She only went back to the Circle b/c she saw an opportunity for change...I'm pretty sure she liked the freedom of being a GW though.
#48
Posté 28 septembre 2014 - 07:57
Warden mage. And then I would do what Avernus did and delay the Calling indefinitely.
And this folks is why normal people want to lock mages up in the first place.
- Steelcan, Khaeix et Br3admax aiment ceci
#49
Posté 28 septembre 2014 - 07:57
Warden mage. And then I would do what Avernus did and delay the Calling indefinitely.
Sacrifice scores of your contemporaries? Leave it to you, Xil.
- Drasanil aime ceci
#50
Posté 28 septembre 2014 - 07:58
I agreed with the original list where 2 and 3 were flipped. I'd rather be an apostate than a Grey Warden... at least an early death isn't guaranteed and you have a whole lot more freedom as an apostate...
Yeah I'm having a tough time with those two. See them as rather interchangeable. As a Warden, at least you can't be taken away by the Circle. As an apostate you'd always be on the run.





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