Warden mage, freedom and respect. What more can you possibly want?
You have freedom only when you will escape pretty much if you are warden you have to do what wardens want you to do for rest of your life what means killing darkspawn on deep roads for rest of your life.
You have freedom only when you will escape pretty much if you are warden you have to do what wardens want you to do for rest of your life what means killing darkspawn on deep roads for rest of your life.
Hold on, I think I missed the part where you said which of the two options you would choose...
You have freedom only when you will escape pretty much if you are warden you have to do what wardens want you to do for rest of your life what means killing darkspawn on deep roads for rest of your life.
Better to use your magic to do good for the world as a Warden, rather than to be locked up never having that chance.
Hold on, I think I missed the part where you said which of the two options you would choose...
He said apostate.
He said apostate.
That's not one of the choices though. This was set up so we had to pick from two lousy options.
Hold on, I think I missed the part where you said which of the two options you would choose...
Did i said that i would chose wardens?
Better to use your magic to do good for the world as a Warden, rather than to be locked up never having that chance.
Well take your pick your choice to play martyr but as i said you aren't free in wardens as you aren't in circle.
That's not one of the choices though. This was set up so we had to pick from two lousy options.
I said apostate but then autor edited and said you can pick one of two and i later said i pick circle because simple neither wardens or circle give freedom but circle at least give great conditions wardens not.
True you aren't completely free in the wardens, but you are much, much more free in comparison, in my opinion. At least you can go to the restroom without a metal man staring at you.
Well take your pick your choice to play martyr but as i said you aren't free in wardens as you aren't in circle.
I should have been more specific, as a warden you're allowed to experiment with different forms of magic, even the forbidden blood magic. After all you do whatever it takes to defeat the darkspawn.
True you aren't completely free in the wardens, but you are much, much more free in comparison, in my opinion. At least you can go to the restroom without a metal man staring at you.
With lust.....
True you aren't completely free in the wardens, but you are much, much more free in comparison, in my opinion. At least you can go to the restroom without a metal man staring at you.
No, you really aren't. The First Warden still dictates where you can and can't go, and most of your time will be spent in a Keep doing what you were before. People need to stop looking through the eyes of a PC.
I said apostate but then autor edited and said you can pick one of two and i later said i pick circle because simple neither wardens or circle give freedom but circle at least give great conditions wardens not.
Whoops, I didn't see that... fair enough. I had to switch my answer to Circle after the Joining was brought up... that's just far too risky for me.
No, you really aren't. The First Warden still dictates where you can and can't go, and most of your time will be spent in a Keep doing what you were before. People need to stop looking through the eyes of a PC.
I still consider that more free, tbh. At the circle people are watching you 24/7 just waiting for you to turn into an abomination. You're also kept away from society as a whole and forced to be in a single building constantly. The wardens still treat you at least normally.
I should have been more specific, as a warden you're allowed to experiment with different forms of magic, even the forbidden blood magic. After all you do whatever it takes to defeat the darkspawn.
And that is argument to join wardens or not to join wardens because as far we know how that experiment ends for mages and others around.In fact i never heard that experiments with magic not mention even blood magic went without disaster.
Whoops, I didn't see that... fair enough. I had to switch my answer to Circle after the Joining was brought up... that's just far too risky for me.
That is fine.
I still consider that more free, tbh. At the circle people are watching you 24/7 just waiting for you to turn into an abomination. You're also kept away from society as a whole and forced to be in a single building constantly. The wardens still treat you at least normally.
Sounds exactly like the Wardens to me, and they don't suddenly start trusting mages more just because they all drank the same darkspawn blood.
Rebel Apostate mage
I think you mean 'dead and burnt to a crisp' then 
I'd choose circle mage. Especially if I'm an elf. You have food and shelter. If you're mages are more or less equal to each other. Opportunity to advance and if you're skilled and trustworthy enough you're aloud a degree of freedom to do research and go places as seen Finn, Wynne others.
The Wardens have to deal with darkspawn, thier taint and nightmares. You'll also be expected to do other things as well.
I always thought the mages you mention leaving the tower being somewhat special cases.
Wynne, the Blight is up, the two sole surviving Wardens in Ferelden request her help (if recruited).
Wynne in Awakening, a supposedly super-important meeting is happening someplace, she's just traveling there.
Finn, the Warden-Commander of Ferelden requests his assistance.
Ines Arancia, researching a plant that may grow on blighted land (potentially super important to Ferelden AND the Wardens).
Got to love that prickle weed
I always thought the mages you mention leaving the tower being somewhat special cases.
Wynne, the Blight is up, the two sole surviving Wardens in Ferelden request her help (if recruited).
Wynne in Awakening, a supposedly super-important meeting is happening someplace, she's just traveling there.
Finn, the Warden-Commander of Ferelden requests his assistance.
Ines Arancia, researching a plant that may grow on blighted land (potentially super important to Ferelden AND the Wardens).
Being a Circle Mage seems pretty awesome as long as idiots don't go ruining it for every one.
So if you were a mage would you prefer to be in the circle (no sex or kids allowed, living in the same place for the rest of your life, restricted freedom and (possibly) abusive templars) or as a warden where you have more freedoms but have the certainty of dying within 20-30 years (if not sooner) and having to fight darkspawn for the rest of your life.
Personally I would rather be a warden. More freedom, even at the cost of a longer life, is one I would be willing to pay. Also it would be good to know that I am providing a service to thedas whether I am thanked or not.
Edit: Btw I know these are not the only two options when you are a mage (apostate, magister, etc) but out of the two specifically what would you prefer?
- Kids are allowed in the Circle, that's where they are trained. Unless you meant having kids; They get taken away and become sheltered by the Chantry.
- No sex? That's not true. Everyone was kissing everyone at the Circle Tower in Ferelden. And that's coming from Anders. Wynne even had a kid with a Templar.
- You don't have to live in the same place your whole life. You can be moved to a different tower if they decide its better that way, and if you prove responsible you can always leave the Tower. Only recently (Thanks to Adrian and Anders) did they restrict rules about leaving the Tower.
- "Abusive" is a matter of perspective really... To any normal person (Bethany) its mildly uncomfortable now and again, to people like Anders its living torture living in the Circle.
I'd rather be a Circle mage. Have access to education, a peaceful life with other people like me, and answer the call to arms when/if there is a blight or when people need healing. Grey Wardens are needed to kill the Archdemon, but someone needs to unleash infernos to clear the horde between them.
Then again, if all mages are being attacked now (I doubt it, Cullen isn't trying to kill our mages) by Templars then I'd prefer to be a Warden. Then again, Warden are under attack from the Inquisition anyway. Circle mage, for sure.
Circle mage is the easy answer. The Mages aren't watched as closely in most places as all these posts make it out to be. They are held in locations for the most part where they don't have to be. Not to mention some of that watching is by other mages with more magical skill and hopefully some degree of caution. It's actually a rather comfortable life for the most part after you pass your harrowing. Before you pass your harrowing it's the equivilant of most boarding schools really. (there are plenty that despise their boarding schools growing up that realize they weren't as bad as they made them out to be as adults)
That being said the more complicated and dangerous answer is still...
Apostate.
Apostates can say they have drawn their numbers from both Circle and Warden mages for various reasons. There are successful escapes from both the circle and Wardens that don't manage to be tracked down for various reasons despite all their measures. Not all of them live on the run. Some manage to live somewhat comfortably outside of the circle. They just choose areas with lower Chantry influence. It's not an iron grip everywhere. Even in places where there are Chantries. Now neither organization wants to admit to this of course. but if mages were so easy to catch after all of the tricks of both organizations then the Templars wouldn't have an entire group of Templars dedicated to trying to recapture or kill mages.
edit: Another note that I forgot. not all mages that join the Wardens come from the Circle. There is confirmation from conversation with Alistair about Morrigan and sort of from Avernus as well that they do accept Apostates amongst their ranks and as allies outside their ranks.
So while you tell me these are my only possible choices Apostate could still be my answer. Though I would probably choose to be an apostate runaway from the Circle because it should be margionally easier to beat the blood sympathy they are trying to hunt me with than it is to free myself from the Calling. Though I am sure that there are apostate or even organization mages that have figured out how to do it even if they refuse to advertise that fact so they don't do something like ****** off the entirety of the Wardens. It's generally better not to start a war with a constant standing army afterall.
I'd choose the Wardens.
A short life of freedom and danger is preferable to a long one of confinement and safety.
Circle Mage.
Be a good behaving, pro-Circle mage, with leaning toward the Loyalists if not a total Loyalist, be in a Circle that isn't Kirkwall, and I'd probably be allowed to do tasks outside the tower every now and then... if I even want to leave, I'd probably be more like Finn.
While my body is stuck in the Circle Tower, I have access to lyrium with the Circle that'll allow my mind to wander the Fade... for research purposes, of course...
Good education, food, and plenty of support from other mages and enchanters with the focus on living as a mage. Not sure how much support is given to the Wardens with how to deal with mage issues.
Ya, even if given options of being an apostate or Tevinter mage, I'd still pick a Circle Mage.
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